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Teriyaki Snail

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Game Modding site Nexus Mods announced their own application for installing pre-combined lists of mods all at once, with the idea derived from existing community application "Wabbajack" that already serves that function. Some Mod authors are upset by this and see it as a bad thing.
In expectation for Mod authors enraged by this for whatever reason potentially deleting all of their submitted works, they've announced any mods posted to the site can no longer be fully deleted, and are instead "archived", which just means that the mod's page is deleted, but the files still exist and are still downloadable.
 
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Game modding site Nexus Mods announced their own application for installing pre-combined lists of mods all at once, with the idea derived from existing community application "Wabbajack" that already serves that function. Some mod authors are upset by this and see it as a bad thing.
In expectation for mod authors enraged by this for whatever reason potentially deleting all of their submitted works, they've announced any mods posted to the site can no longer be fully deleted, and are instead "archived", which just means that the mod's page is deleted, but the files still exist and are still downloadable.

tl;dr Nexus Mods no longer allows files to be deleted, and they have their own application for installing pre-combined packs of mods in development. Some control obsessed and likely autistic mod authors are enraged.
 
Lammy said:
To format this more legibly and succinctly:

Game modding site Nexus Mods announced their own application for installing pre-combined lists of mods all at once, with the idea derived from existing community application "Wabbajack" that already serves that function. Some mod authors are upset by this and see it as a bad thing.
In expectation for mod authors enraged by this for whatever reason potentially deleting all of their submitted works, they've announced any mods posted to the site can no longer be fully deleted, and are instead "archived", which just means that the mod's page is deleted, but the files still exist and are still downloadable.
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Appreciate the feedback on that, I'll edit it to what you posted here.
 
Teriyaki Snail said:
In expectation for Mod authors enraged by this for whatever reason potentially deleting all of their submitted works, they've announced any mods posted to the site can no longer be fully deleted, and are instead "archived", which just means that the mod's page is deleted, but the files still exist and are still downloadable.
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Great change but I wish they'd done it before we lost the GIFTFISH mass effect mods. (:_(
 
Why the fuck would they be angered by this?
Imagine having a fucking job and family, but still being a huge nerd who plays video games and loves to install a 100 mods on a game. What? You're going to have to wait until your fucking vacation and spend the week on that shit or instead take an evening to do that shit fast-like.
 
Warkrieg Battlebournion said:
Why the fuck would they be angered by this?
Imagine having a fucking job and family, but still being a huge nerd who plays video games and loves to install a 100 mods on a game. What? You're going to have to wait until your fucking vacation and spend the week on that shit or instead take an evening to do that shit fast-like.
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Seriously Mods can be like crack to me. And it does take some time looking through mods and testing them out then not getting to play them because I just spent 3 hours scrolling and testing mods.


If the pre combined lists are all functional mods that dont fuck with eachother and are all compatible then this is a great thing
 
Warkrieg Battlebournion said:
Why the fuck would they be angered by this?
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The only answer I could easily discern from looking into this a small amount was that some mod authors are EXTREMELY controlling of their creations. Modpacks somehow infringe on their control.
There have been instances in the past of certain mod authors putting code into their mod for it to either not load or do something bad if you load them with other mods that the mod author dislikes or doesn't want their mod combined with.
 
Lammy said:
The only answer I could easily discern from looking into this a small amount was that some mod authors are EXTREMELY controlling of their creations. Modpacks somehow infringe on their control.
There have been instances in the past of certain mod authors putting code into their mod for it to either not load or do something bad if you load them with other mods that the mod author dislikes or doesn't want their mod combined with.
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Sounds like some Byuu nutcase action.
Some time ago there was talk about monetizing mods so mod makers could get paid somehow. Didn't go anywhere because of copyright and possible code theft shenanigans though. Didn't stop modders from modding. I'd guess sometimes you have to be an autistic spaz to put in a lot of time into a high skill hobby for no gain and then find something to bitch about along the way, but you still keep doing it no matter what.
Modders are like soldiers or some shit.
 
I don't think the concept is that bad, but the real problem is the fact that it's going to be used through Vortex mod manager.
 
How can we mention modding drama without the recent 180 on /r/skyrimmod's opinion about EnaiSiaion? They've been sucking his dick for the past 7 years then someone dug up his political opinions about some right-wing German party, a blunt comment about EU migration, and everyone has deemed him a Nazi. And now they're fellating SimonMagus instead because he makes the same shit but commits no wrongthink.
 
modders like xilandro and axonis have already deleted most of their shit and given anything they knew people would be pissed about to the nexus mods caretaker, and have sworn to never use it again.

be interesting to see where a group like the one run by tgspy, the frontier, goes after this. i have ears in the community so i'll keep them low to the ground.
 
I heard of them stopping people from deleting downloads, but I didn't hear it was because of the fucking mod manager. I thought people being pissy about that on its own was silly, but Jesus fucking Christ that's even dumber, why does a mod creator care about a fucking mod manager? It literally just means more people can download your goddamn mods without spending two weeks trying to figure out where the correct folders are and editing 200 config files. Anything that means normies can do it without issue should be welcomed in open arms.

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I'm sure the irony is completely lost on the cocksucker, and other outraged modders, that he's pissy about people modding his work.
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There's companies out there who care less about what you do with their models and textures than some modders. One particular example I've seen multiple times is when people get annoyed that their mod's been uploaded somewhere else without permission. First off even big companies get their shit uploaded without permission, and they have more of a right to be pissy since you usually have to fucking pay them to use their products. Of course people are gonna do it to you as well if you're mod's popular, it sucks, but you just have to deal with it. If you can't handle that you should likely not be modding in the first place, or really making anything on the internet, and especially not make software for any major company.

Secondly if a unofficial download of your mod's gotten popular I find it's because your download's fucking hard to grab. For example having you mod hosted on Discord and needing to get verified or some shit in order to grab it. That shit's real fucking annoying when you're someone who lacks a Discord, or indeed just want to grab it quickly in general. It's less trouble finding someone who uploaded it on some dodgy Russian website than getting it the legitimate way. So like with actual payed products this problem stems from poor service on the part of the distributor. If you want that fixed you really need to host the mod somewhere that the everyman can download it without issue. Sure you'll have opportunistic pricks who claim it as their own, but at least if the download's easy that at least makes it harder for unofficial downloads to gain any traction.
 
Warkrieg Battlebournion said:
Why the fuck would they be angered by this?
Imagine having a fucking job and family, but still being a huge nerd who plays video games and loves to install a 100 mods on a game. What? You're going to have to wait until your fucking vacation and spend the week on that shit or instead take an evening to do that shit fast-like.
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Autism. Mod creators are on par with emulator devs in terms of how autistic they are. It's also an ego thing, since it means people are going to download "SsethTzeenach's Skyrim modpack" instead of "yiff_dude's kajeet asshole textures 1-99" (packaged separately). Think about all the view/download dopamine hits they'll miss out on.
 
Warkrieg Battlebournion said:
Why the fuck would they be angered by this?
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Skyrim and Fallout 4 modders are the ones that usually act this childish. Some gladly suck Bethesda's chode just for a chance to maybe work there, too. Modders for other games are usually pretty chill. Especially Morrowind modders. Must be all that CHIM. Oblivion modders just want to grill.
 
Lammy said:
The only answer I could easily discern from looking into this a small amount was that some mod authors are EXTREMELY controlling of their creations. Modpacks somehow infringe on their control.
There have been instances in the past of certain mod authors putting code into their mod for it to either not load or do something bad if you load them with other mods that the mod author dislikes or doesn't want their mod combined with.
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They are aware that they can only develop mods out of the sheer goodwill of the developers, right? That they don't own anything they're working on?

It's actually why I laughed so hard when they were mad that people were mad that they were charging money for their mods. I'm fairly certain they don't own any of the intellectual property and they can thank Blizzard for that.
 
Mod authors are some of the most autistic, defensive people in the world. For example, there was this mod in Skyrim which eliminated loading between cities. Nice little mod, right? Well, he decided it needed 'lore' so he threw these ass ugly obsidian gates everywhere and people were pissed at him. One guy reposted an open cities mod without the gates and he lost his shit.

There's also the issue that modders want 'credit'. Its been the most annoying fucking thing having to comb through and redownload 50 thousand fucking mods, put them in order, do all this shit. Unofficial modpacks were a fucking godsend when you could find them, doing the work for you and putting things in a load order. It was quick and easy to troubleshoot. But mod authors screeched about them all the fucking time.

I'm glad that Nexusmods realized that most people don't want to spend a week trying to set up the 100 mods they use for Skyrim. For example, there was this Fallout 4 mod that revamped the game and made it look great and combined a ton of mods. And I was stocked....until I found out it was a guide to download and install and set up everything yourself. Seriously? What the fuck is the point?

All in all, Nexus mods is really where most people go for mods, has the largest repository and this is a massive step in the right direction. Not having to comb through 300 mods and making sure each and every one of them works and plays nice is amazing. Fuck the whining modders.

By the by, they'll bitch now, but when they don't get any attention because nobody really goes anywhere else, they'll come crawling the fuck back.
 
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