My 600 pound Life - literal and figurative cows.

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8008135 said:
Our lard and saviour James "Ow mah leg!" King has gone to the great plate of fried rice in the sky.

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I'm usually the last person to celebrate someone's death, but good riddance.

He pulled his daughter out of school to take care of his disgusting fat ass, emotionally abused his wife, and made both of them live in utter squalor as he ate himself to death, and made literally no attempt to save himself.

The only people I feel bad for are his family considering how much shit he put them through, and how much debt they'll be in due to medical, and now funeral expenses he shoved upon them.
 
Not a lolcow, but James K of "My 600 Pound Life" has died recently.

For those that never watched the show, James K might legit have the worst legs I've ever seen: worse than Blades.


downloads said:
He had grandchildren? I didn’t realize he had so many kids, I thought it was just daughter-slave.
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I wonder how many of those kids are actually his? Lisa by her own admission was cheating on her husband with James (think about that) during this time. On the first show, she said that she had two kids with James while still married to her husband. They could very well not be his kids. Sadly, it's too late for any Maury episodes.
 
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Bunny Tracks said:
I'm usually the last person to celebrate someone's death, but good riddance.

He pulled his daughter out of school to take care of his disgusting fat ass, emotionally abused his wife, and made both of them live in utter squalor as he ate himself to death, and made literally no attempt to save himself.

The only people I feel bad for are his family considering how much shit he put them through, and how much debt they'll be in due to medical, and now funeral expenses he shoved upon them.
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Don't forget that James's dad, who had a stroke on camera, got another mortgage on his house to fund the ambulance that took him to Houston. Motherfucker couldn't find enough self control to make sure that his poor old dad's efforts weren't 1000% in vain. He was no Steven Assanti but he was no angel either. Not even my mother had that much sympathy for him when she watched his episode; she just thought that he was pathetic.
 
Your Weird Fetish said:
What is this bullshit therapy they give them? Why doesn't the hospital use actual CBT?
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"TV therapists" showy but not always helpful. They always seem to want someone to disclose some deep dark secret with no warning or support. You'd never push a client you just met to go "hey mom you know bro used to molest me" on your first appointment.
 
GenociderSyo said:
"TV therapists" showy but not always helpful. They always seem to want someone to disclose some deep dark secret with no warning or support. You'd never push a client you just met to go "hey mom you know bro used to molest me" on your first appointment.
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That's Freudian psycho analysis shit that's been discredited for decades, isn't it? "Getting to the root of the trauma" as some way to fix things? I don't think CBT even much cares what caused the issue other than for diagnostic purposes; since it turns out "A rape screwed me up" is not some grand epiphany that fixes all the stuff it screwed up about you.
 
Your Weird Fetish said:
That's Freudian psycho analysis shit that's been discredited for decades, isn't it? "Getting to the root of the trauma" as some way to fix things? I don't think CBT even much cares what caused the issue other than for diagnostic purposes; since it turns out "A rape screwed me up" is not some grand epiphany that fixes all the stuff it screwed up about you.
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Yea they tend to go all freudian and insta fix. When i watch it I wonder how many families that type of disclosure destroys for the sake of good drama tv.
 
Frankly, I am shocked that it took that long for James K's body to break down, especially given how much he just kept packing on (and yo-yo'ing back and forth when he was in the hospital, losing big weight and then gaining back). The obituary had me double-taking: Four daughters, two sons, and nineteen fucking grandkids at 49 years old. Holy Christmas Cakes.

GenociderSyo said:
Month 2

Blames family dinner on why she can't stick to diet since they will eat what they want. States has friend actally named Tomorrow BRING HER healthy meals every night.

Meal : Rice bowl with shrimp; about 16 sushi rolls crab/shrimp with sauce. THEN entire portion of meal made for family with salad. Obligatory bottle of ranch dressing stuck next to her.
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Bless u for recapping.

Additionally, one of my biggest pet peeves is when these people start whining that they simply "can't" follow the diet because their family members don't.

I understand if maybe they're immobile and their family members refuse to purchase the necessary food (still their fault for being immobile, and they can still compensate by eating less food, but I can understand where the complication is), but you are the one in the program, not your family. At the end of the day, it's YOUR responsibility to comply with the program, not theirs, and if you fall back on the "people around me are eating things I can't have" excuse for noncompliance, then you will never lose weight. There will ALWAYS be people eating things in quantities that you can't have.

I still remember on the subreddit for the show a few years back, there was an episode where Brittani(I think?) went home to see her parents, and one of the redditors criticized the parents for leaving cookies out because it was "disrespectful" of Brittani's efforts (she had been very successful up until this point). And it's like, what? Why did they grown adults have food that their adult daughter can't eat in their house while she is visiting them? gee, it's almost as though she's an adult and is expected to take responsibility for her own actions (which she did. Brittani's a great episode for someone who actually achieves her goals).

For a show like My 600 Lb Life, there were a lot of people in that subreddit that were (and still are) quick to feed into the bs excuses that these people would give for why they couldn't follow the diet. There were people who blamed family members for secretly (as in, not rubbing it in the family member's faces) eating Bad Food when they were supposed to be on the diet, blamed Tamy Lyn's husband for having the audacity to divorce her instead of sticking around to play caretaker, blamed Dr. Now for Sean's death even though he was a grown-ass man who actively refused to grow up, blamed Erica's family for refusing to move to Houston with her even though she was acting like a giant, manipulative baby and had failed a weight-loss surgery before...

The subreddit could be funny at times, but the rest of the time it could be a real dumpster fire.
 
GenociderSyo said:
I'm not watching these live btw. So i'll get tonights up tomorrow when it comes up on amazon. I'm hoping its that lady from the trailor where part of her stomach had to be on its own table it was so huge.
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According to the summary for the show on demand, she has a bunch of fake online profiles to talk to people with and lie to about her appearance/weight. So either way, it sounds like it'll be a barrel of laughs.
 
Salubrious said:
Not a lolcow, but James K of "My 600 Pound Life" has died recently.

For those that never watched the show, James K might legit have the worst legs I've ever seen: worse than Blades.
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I remember that episode really well. His care taker was a horrible woman who undermined all weight loss attempts. Maybe she hated him a lot deep down or was sociopathic, she acted like it was funny when she got caught giving him food while he was in the hospital. Dr Now said he was calling social services to have her investigated for abuse of a vulnerable adult. I guess they didn't give a fuck.

Your Weird Fetish said:
That's Freudian psycho analysis shit that's been discredited for decades, isn't it? "Getting to the root of the trauma" as some way to fix things? I don't think CBT even much cares what caused the issue other than for diagnostic purposes; since it turns out "A rape screwed me up" is not some grand epiphany that fixes all the stuff it screwed up about you.
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What type of therapy patients find helpful is generally a function of their personality. There are a lot of extremely expensive freudian and jungian analysts that are in high demand by certain types of people. Those who are creative, intuitive instead of logical, etc get a lot out of it. CBT is great for practical concerns, and the outcomes are easy to measure because it is so specific and practical. Figuring yourself out through talk therapy or psychoanalysis is hard to measure, but it can some times be cathartic. Freud's view of people as a bunch of conflicting urges cobbled together isn't that far off the mark imo.
 
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Today's 600 pounder, Ashley T, is absolutely insufferable. She's a catfisher and said in therapy something to the effect of that she had 3000 accounts (she called them 'personalities'). She's lost about 10 lbs in two months and has been more rude to Dr. Now than maybe any other patient this season. She stormed out of the appointment shouting in ebonics and it sounded like she was speaking in tongues.
 
QuokkaCaptain said:
Frankly, I am shocked that it took that long for James K's body to break down, especially given how much he just kept packing on (and yo-yo'ing back and forth when he was in the hospital, losing big weight and then gaining back). The obituary had me double-taking: Four daughters, two sons, and nineteen fucking grandkids at 49 years old. Holy Christmas Cakes.
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Eugenicists were right. Three generations of fatties were enough.

sperginity said:
What type of therapy patients find helpful is generally a function of their personality. There are a lot of extremely expensive freudian and jungian analysts that are in high demand by certain types of people. Those who are creative, intuitive instead of logical, etc get a lot out of it. CBT is great for practical concerns, and the outcomes are easy to measure because it is so specific and practical. Figuring yourself out through talk therapy or psychoanalysis is hard to measure, but it can some times be cathartic. Freud's view of people as a bunch of conflicting urges cobbled together isn't that far off the mark imo.
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Oh the subconscious stuff and conflicting urges stuff is accurate. I'm just not convinced his methodology is at all worthwhile. If you can't measure any progress, how can you say there was progress? How do we know they wouldn't have profited just as much from talking to ANY sympathetic and non-judgemental ear, expensive training or not?
 
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sperginity said:
I remember that episode really well. His care taker was a horrible woman who undermined all weight loss attempts. Maybe she hated him a lot deep down or was sociopathic, she acted like it was funny when she got caught giving him food while he was in the hospital. Dr Now said he was calling social services to have her investigated for abuse of a vulnerable adult. I guess they didn't give a fuck.
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It's not that they didn't give a fuck, it's that James had a choice. If Lisa was force-feeding him against his will, it would be a reportable offense because he's a vulnerable person who can't physically get up and get away from her, and she would be endangering his life.

But James was choosing to eat the food in the quantities that she gave him, rather than saying "No, I'm not going to eat all that". And while it didn't factor into the phonecall per se, we see evidence across these episodes that he is straight-up asking Lisa for the food and even harassing her for it (like the scene with the chinese food). APS is designed to protect adults who can't protect themselves from dangerous situations: Mainly the elderly (James wasn't), the mentally disabled (I'd argue he was a giant manbaby with no sense of personal responsibility, but not disabled), and the physically disabled (he was this by virtue of being immobile).

James was not being abused: He and Lisa had a codependent relationship, and James 100% did not want to be away from her. He completely flipped out when Dr. Now suggested separating them for even a week to prove that Lisa was part of the problem. Much like with Sean and his mom, or like that Billy kid and his batshit mother that met with Dr. Now (EDIT: before) 600 Lb Life was even a thing, this isn't James being abused: This is about him having a dynamic with Lisa where he says "I want food", she says "No", and he throws a temper-tantrum because he wants what he wants and he wants it right now, and so she gives it to him because she's afraid of the emotional abuse he'll heap on her if she refuses (again: The scene where he's demanding chinese food is very enlightening).

The scene with Lisa in the hospital, where she's smirking at Dr. Now after James is revealed to have gained weight, is not the smile of a sociopath who thinks the situation is funny. It's the smile of a dumbass who thinks that she's pulled one over on the big, smart doctor because James didn't lose as much weight as he should have in the hospital, which of course means that Dr. Now is wrong about James's ability to lose weight. They never say it right out on screen, but Lisa and James clearly do not like Dr. Now and the way that he calls them out on their shit. I'm sure she thought she was really clever bringing James the food he wanted and making it look like Dr. Now was wrong (she literally tries to tell him at one point that James's body 'doesn't burn calories' the way a normal person's does). The problem was that Dr. Now did it on purpose in an attempt to catch them cheating, and he did.

Lisa did not force that food down James's throat. She was not a help to him, she was absolutely an active contributor in his weight-gain and therefore his death, but James also absolutely had the ability to say "no" and control how much food went into his body. He made a choice not to, and to ignore Dr. Now's recommendations and warnings because it was easier to order chinese food because he "had a headache" and was "sick of chicken and fish" than it was to take responsibility for his own health.
 
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Aww, I really wanted a LAAYGS follow up.

James was terrifyingly prolific for a massive pig monster. I think multiple of his wife-slave’s children were actually his, not just daughter-slave. But 19 grandchildren? Fucking redneck genes.

Obviously they are even more scripted than 600lb Life, but Ashley had two episodes on Catfish this past season. They were hilarious train wrecks.
 
James was the absolute worst patient of Dr. Now. I believe some of the children were Lisa’s from a previous marriage. Lisa cheated with James while she was married and I believe Bayley was his but there may have been one more. Bayley recently had a baby after escaping her horrible parents.

I’m holding out hope that they did one final WATN episode to see more of their hysterics, even though we know the final outcome.

As a side note, I didn’t watch last nights episode but I heard that she might be the same Ashley that was on an episode of Catfish on MTV.
 
nets_awesome said:
As a side note, I didn’t watch last nights episode but I heard that she might be the same Ashley that was on an episode of Catfish on MTV.
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It sure was, the very same Mucinex germ in all her fat, unintelligible glory.

Don't even bother watching the M600PL episode, unless you have infinite patience and/or hate yourself. It's stupid, boring, and quite likely fake to a non-inconsequential degree.
 
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