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Laminated stocks are fantastic for knocking about. Takes a hit and because it's pretty ugly you don't care that it will.
Unfortunately polymer has taken over for that role and anything that has a laminated stock is usually at a pricepoint where "not caring" is less of an option.
Laminated stocks are fantastic for knocking about. Takes a hit and because it's pretty ugly you don't care that it will.
Unfortunately polymer has taken over for that role and anything that has a laminated stock is usually at a pricepoint where "not caring" is less of an option.
My dad's old muzzleloader is stainless and laminate, I always thought it was pretty handsome for a working gun but it's definitely been beat to hell and back, dozens of week long camping trips on archery/black powder only public land and who knows how many primitive season hunts. For all the abuse it's been through you can barely even tell, I can barely see any of it in the picture
Are you sure it's a sporterized M1917 and not a Remington Model 30? Remington was a primary manufacturer for the M1917 and took the design, simplified it some for sporting shooters, and released it on the commercial market as the Model 30 after their military contracts were up and the war was over. They then simplified it again to make the Model 720.
Unless they went above and beyond and scrubbed all the Rs and flaming bombs, I'll agree it seems to be a Model 30. But they also case hardened the receiver so it's not too farfetched.
Also on the subject of cheapo sporting guns, I want a Model 600. The sight rib is pretty badass.
It's definitely a 1917. IDK about the original gunmaker though. IDK enough about 1917 markings to know where Savage, Winchester, remington etc put their name. observe the flaming bomb:
Trying to get a open practice clays night at a club near me that has two traps that collect dust all but one day a month. Organizing old guys is exhausting but being the youngest guy at shoots by far is a good reminder this shit will only stick around if we intentionally hand it off from generation to generation.
Trying to get a open practice clays night at a club near me that has two traps that collect dust all but one day a month. Organizing old guys is exhausting but being the youngest guy at shoots by far is a good reminder this shit will only stick around if we intentionally hand it off from generation to generation.
In my home town there is surprisingly a lot of youth trap shooters. Each high school has enough kids to field at least one team for the summer and winter league. On some weekdays after school gets out it's packed with high schoolers. These kids can shoot too, especially the girls. I got outshot by a 14 year old at a tournament this last winter who went 125 straight before dropping a point.
It's amazing how the Schmidt Rubin actions are able to hold up despite being, well, just look at the photo.
This bolt is from a 1911 or K11 or 1896/11, so while it isn't front locking like the K31, it still shoots full power smokeless GP11 ammo, same as in a K31. Yet look closer at the bolt:
The locking lugs are on a big hollow tube! Really interesting design, but it raises longevity concerns. You hear about headspace issues in Lee Enfields and Savage 99s, but never in these Swiss rifles. They haven't been abused like Enfields, but for such an ancient design if a fatal flaw was there we would have heard about it by now after over a century of GP11 being fired out of these things. These rifles are so interesting yet it's difficult to not look at the action with at least a little bit of suspicion (Unless its a K31).
edit; slightly unrelated - K31 or 1911 vs Swede M96? Are they directly comparable?
Trying to get a open practice clays night at a club near me that has two traps that collect dust all but one day a month. Organizing old guys is exhausting but being the youngest guy at shoots by far is a good reminder this shit will only stick around if we intentionally hand it off from generation to generation.
In my home town there is surprisingly a lot of youth trap shooters. Each high school has enough kids to field at least one team for the summer and winter league. On some weekdays after school gets out it's packed with high schoolers. These kids can shoot too, especially the girls. I got outshot by a 14 year old at a tournament this last winter who went 125 straight before dropping a point.
The shotgun sports are by far and away the largest shooting sports. there are hundreds of thousands of participants even in very anti-gun countries like the UK. It's fun for the whole family, untainted by the militia bros and tactitards.
The shotgun sports are by far and away the largest shooting sports. there are hundreds of thousands of participants even in very anti-gun countries like the UK. It's fun for the whole family, untainted by the militia bros and tactitards.
My wife grew up trap shooting. Her dad birded so she wanted to be a "cool edgy tom boy" or some shit and despite her hate of being up early, loud things and all she would always go with him for trapping and sometimes birding.
She is 500% pro gun but she's unsettlingly good with a scatter gun.
Anyway, what are things you all could do yourself but will take a local smith to get done? For me, it's sight set replacement on pistols and action jobs on rifles/shotguns. Most anything else I'll handle.
Speaking of Enfields, their bolts are also hollow around the locking lugs (for the striker & spring) but it is less noticeable because the entire thing looks smaller in diameter:
There's a video on youtube where a guy blows up a sporterized No 4 Mk 1 and the failure point was not the receiver but instead the smaller of the two locking lugs. He claimed that specific lug had some kind of manufacturing defect (kind of unclear as to what kind of defect).
After some research it appears that the recievers don't actually stretch and instead the headspace issues are a result of people carelessly swapping around different sized bolt heads, which were made to compensate for manufacturing tolerances, although much of that "research" is based on anecdotes so take that with a grain of salt. Can't find much about the Savage 99s; the action looks pretty sturdy at a glance but I haven't looked too deep into them. Cool rifles though with advanced design for their age.
I don't mean to come off as a dick but just saying to confirm. If you own an SMLE you can just go look it's pretty easy to see. Fucking lovely action. Smoothest bolt I've ever owned including the times I've done polish work on Mausers etc.
Like most mil surp people swap parts with no rhyme or reason. Well there often is but it sure doesn't feel like it later to us.
There's a video on youtube where a guy blows up a sporterized No 4 Mk 1 and the failure point was not the receiver but instead the smaller of the two locking lugs. He claimed that specific lug had some kind of manufacturing defect (kind of unclear as to what kind of defect).
