Mecha anime & manga - Big robots. Other than Gundam.

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Which show should I watch next? Daltanious, Combattler, Ginguiser, Gyrozetter, Laserion, or 70s Jeeg? And why do Voltes and Combattler look so similar?
 
Space Police said:
Which show should I watch next? Daltanious, Combattler, Ginguiser, Gyrozetter, Laserion, or 70s Jeeg? And why do Voltes and Combattler look so similar?
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I keep hearing good things about 70s Jeeg. Combattler is fun. Voltes and Combattler look the same because they have the same IRL mecha designer and are both Nagahama Robot Romance shows.
 
XYZpdq Jr. said:
bopped in and out of Gyrozetter as it aired, seemed nice enough but def a Tomica also-ran sorta like, say, Earth Granner
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I tried an episode of this, and it's pretty weird. It's written more like a Shonen Jump story (unnecessary narration/monologuing, moe female characters in weeb drag, characters that are poorly/overly-emphatically written in an almost fourth-wall-breaking way) than a typical mecha anime. Does that stop? Lots of the other stuff was cool; I liked how they pulled their weapons out of thin air, the transforming cars and defense complex were pretty cool, and there was a chase up some ramps that seemed to evoke Cars 2.
 
Space Police said:
I tried an episode of this, and it's pretty weird. It's written more like a Shonen Jump story (unnecessary narration/monologuing, moe female characters in weeb drag, characters that are poorly/overly-emphatically written in an almost fourth-wall-breaking way) than a typical mecha anime. Does that stop? Lots of the other stuff was cool; I liked how they pulled their weapons out of thin air, the transforming cars and defense complex were pretty cool, and there was a chase up some ramps that seemed to evoke Cars 2.
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I def recall when Adventure Time had the bikini babes around the same time as Gyrozetter's beach episode.
Also the MC's verbal tick about things being "depressingly" cool or whatever

But yeah now that you mentioned it shoneny
 
Crossposting but it is the birthday of this VA
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Just finished my rewatch of Mazinkaiser SKL, I forgot how absolutely badass it was. Something I didn’t catch my first time was the cameo of Koji in the third episode, I enjoy all the easter eggs and references to other Go Nagai properties (mostly devil man, with some cameos from og mazinger characters).

I think I appreciate the OVA a lot more having read a bit of the manga, I can’t find the full thing translated online, it seems obscure as fuck. But I read that it fills in the gaps for the story, as the OVA is a streamlined version of Volume 2 of the manga. It makes me wish the whole thing was animated, but I’m just happy the OVA exists.
 
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7 episodes into Macross Seven. The show's really repetitive at this point, and Basara is getting on my nerves with his self-absorption. How many episodes until a status quo shakeup happens?
 
Trollblade69 said:
7 episodes into Macross Seven. The show's really repetitive at this point, and Basara is getting on my nerves with his self-absorption. How many episodes until a status quo shakeup happens?
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10 more episodes. Macross 7 isn't a show to binge if you don't like MOTW-style shows, but it's worth it just to see all the cool minutiae of the cities as well as the VFs in action. Also Basara isn't really self-absorbed; he's a rockstar and he just acts like it. You'll see later on that he's actually a hot-blooded pilot like Ryoma Nagare; it all pays off in the end.
 
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You'll see later on...it all pays off in the end.
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Not that I don't doubt he gets better, but I still feel obligated to post that one ProZD video as citation that getting good later doesn't magically fix the issues in the moment:

Also I can already tell Basara's a hot-blooded ace pilot, you get that just from the first episode.
 
Trollblade69 said:
7 episodes into Macross Seven. The show's really repetitive at this point, and Basara is getting on my nerves with his self-absorption. How many episodes until a status quo shakeup happens?
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I gave up after 2. Good lord did I want someone to shoot him. I also don't see the threat a depression beam does when it requires getting within touching distance. Everyone's got missiles and lasers and autocannons. There's no need to sap the will out of people if you're just going to kill them.

Anyways, Code Geass always felt like a show that got a whole lot of executive meddling. Reminder that it is a Bandai show and thus, there is a strong need to sell toys. I suspect that toy sales were not that great in season 1, so some executive said to make all the robots fly like in Gundam. Thus, float units, which were an experimental technology on a select few machines, then became ubiquitous and now all the robots have float units. Which wrecks the unique ground-based combat the show had when everyone can fly. Then there's how the second season opens up mostly like the first season, but not as well, like they didn't figure they'd get renewed for another season, so they tried to patch all the loose ends the first season generates. To their credit, they did an okay job of it, but they never did integrate Geass lore in their Hamlet story all that well.
 
Drag-on Knight 91873 said:
I suspect that toy sales were not that great in season 1, so some executive said to make all the robots fly like in Gundam. Thus, float units, which were an experimental technology on a select few machines, then became ubiquitous and now all the robots have float units. Which wrecks the unique ground-based combat the show had when everyone can fly.
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I don't think that was really for sales, it's more likely that was a method of simplifying animation.
 
Space Police said:
10 more episodes. Macross 7 isn't a show to binge if you don't like MOTW-style shows, but it's worth it just to see all the cool minutiae of the cities as well as the VFs in action. Also Basara isn't really self-absorbed; he's a rockstar and he just acts like it. You'll see later on that he's actually a hot-blooded pilot like Ryoma Nagare; it all pays off in the end.
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yeah it takes a hot minute, and to be fair the characters in the show get increasingly frustrated with Basara's shit
there IS a point on the horizon there though as Space Police mentioned where, it's sorta like when ZZ goes for Earth re-entry and one of the characters starts screaming about not wanting to die then you sorta wake up and remember it's still the Universal Century, similarly when 7 does start to break from the formula it's a nice payoff even if it's not a total gamechanger for the tone

but yeah 7 definitely needs some pacing like Dougram or a lot of the other shows that were written to be watched a half hour a week
 
Trollblade69 said:
7 episodes into Macross Seven. The show's really repetitive at this point, and Basara is getting on my nerves with his self-absorption. How many episodes until a status quo shakeup happens?
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I thought that at first and dropped it for years...but then I picked it back up and couldn't stop watching because the character interaction is so damn good and funny in every episode even if it's formulaic. I think it was the episode that Fire Bomber cosplays as the original Macross characters that really sold me, because everything after gets even better and the later part of the show stands alongside shit like Getter Robo or Gurren Lagann in terms of pure badass shit going down everywhere.
Drag-on Knight 91873 said:
I gave up after 2. Good lord did I want someone to shoot him. I also don't see the threat a depression beam does when it requires getting within touching distance. Everyone's got missiles and lasers and autocannons. There's no need to sap the will out of people if you're just going to kill them.
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They're space vampires who feed on people's life force, so they very much need to get close.
 
At episode 10 of Macross 7. This episode really should've been shown sooner, since it explains a lot of Ray's deal and reveals that all this space bard stuff Basara's doing is an army project that Max is involved with. I really shouldn't have to deal with fluff like a beach episode or Fire Bomber getting a label via sheer plot armor.
 
Trollblade69 said:
At episode 10 of Macross 7. This episode really should've been shown sooner, since it explains a lot of Ray's deal and reveals that all this space bard stuff Basara's doing is an army project that Max is involved with. I really shouldn't have to deal with fluff like a beach episode or Fire Bomber getting a label via sheer plot armor.
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ngl the way basara seemed to think elves did or whatever and was shocked it was military was pretty funny
 
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13 episodes in. I thought you said things started happening at episode 17? Because episode 12 has the villains hijack City 7 and make it fold far from Battle 7. That's a pretty big status quo change.
 
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