Mecha anime & manga - Big robots. Other than Gundam.

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Trollblade69 said:
Why is nobody else using this thread

Was listening to the Anime World Order podcast about Brain Powerd to occupy my time, and they went and said "The Novis Noah looks like a pyramid because the Geofront in Evangelion has a pyramid and they're ripping off Evangelion!"

NO YOU FUCKING RETARD! NOT EVERYTHING IS A FUCKING EVANGELION RIPOFF, HAVE YOU NEVER SEEN A MECHA SHOW IN YOUR ENTIRE LIFE?! IF IT'S A REFERENCE TO ANYTHING, IT'S TO RAIDEEN AND THE GIANT PYRAMID THAT THE TITULAR MECH FIRST RISES OUT OF!!!!
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Eva doesn't really have straight-up clones. Like, sure, there are shows that wouldn't have been greenlit before Eva. Shows like Fafner or Brain Powerd or whatever that don't have conventionally toyetic looking mecha designs. But, retards always wanna say BP is Tomino's answer to Eva or Rahxephon is an Eva clone.

I really like that old side by side comparsion between Rahxephon and Eva's first episodes. You can tell the dork who wrote it doesn't know that a zillion mecha shows' first episodes all pretty much go down just like that too. The only time Rahxephon legit ripped Eva off was that one where Ayato gets sucked into the Dolem. That episode is beat for beat that one where Shinji and Eva 01 get absorbed.

I think part of it comes down to how not enough have really interacted with Japanese fiction maybe outside of Eva or a handful of other works. Like, everything from Eva is derivative. Not to say it's not all arranged in a cool presentation. But all the weird angles? Akio Jissoji movies. A shitty dad giving a latchkey kid a robot? Gundam. Big science complex that all the monsters come to each week for plot reasons? Getter and Mazinger. Decisive Battle? It's a song in From Russia With Love. People vastly overestimate how much of Eva is unique or original.
Chocolate Rain said:
If Brain Powered was Tomino showing the results of fatherless households he was a pioneer ahead of his time.
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Shitty moms and women who forsake their family in exchange for status/jobs are sort of a staple of Tomino's works. He always venerates women that are kind and matronly, but also not afraid to speak their minds or fight. Always contrasted with women who ignore their families or are so cock thirsty or power hungry. Like Jonathan's bitch mom who ruined Christmas. Or Reccoa Londe. Tomino shows operate on several insane levels of mommy issues.
 
Kari Kamiya said:
You mean that's not something Evangelion was doing?
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I'm pretty sure the last thing Shinji needed was a father figure in his life given what he had to work with
FatMebius said:
Shitty moms and women who forsake their family in exchange for status/jobs are sort of a staple of Tomino's works. He always venerates women that are kind and matronly, but also not afraid to speak their minds or fight.
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As someone who finished watching it for the first time a week ago its interesting how the catalyst to every problem in BP came from Naoko decision to chose her career over love and she wasn't even a bad mother figure to Midori but her mother's actions and the lack of a father figure put her down a path that effected her children as a result. BP is definitely not Tomino's best outing but it felt like the show where he felt the most on point with what he wanted to get off his chest.

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Kari Kamiya said:
I will still always find that scene of him pointing a gun at her and crying that he never got Christmas presents hilarious, context be damned.
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His character pretty much peaked there. I can't tell if Jonathan is either the best or worst Tomino character because he pretty much doesn't have much of purpose after a certain point but his VA steals every scene he's in.
 
Kari Kamiya said:
I will still always find that scene of him pointing a gun at her and crying that he never got Christmas presents hilarious, context be damned.
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For me, it's how many times they say "genius' sperm" in that episode.
Chocolate Rain said:
I'm pretty sure the last thing Shinji needed was a father figure in his life given what he had to work with

As someone who finished watching it for the first time a week ago its interesting how the catalyst to every problem in BP came from Naoko decision to chose her career over love and she wasn't even a bad mother figure to Midori but her mother's actions and the lack of a father figure put her down a path that effected her children as a result. BP is definitely not Tomino's best outing but it felt like the show where he felt the most on point with what he wanted to get off his chest.
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BP is a weird, interesting mess of ideas. I get the vibe that the production was kind of a shit show based on the animation quality at times, but for better or worse, it's a very Tomino show. I think the dialogue especially is nuts at times in the best of ways. The cast is all really strong too and I really appreciate the art direction a lot. The Antibodies as a whole are some of Mamoru Nagano's finest designs.
 
Trollblade69 said:
Was listening to the Anime World Order podcast
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lol
lmao
what in the literal fuck is wrong with you
like half of your shit is "I went to Shithole and it was shitty! ARGH!"
there is not a single fucking thing you can get out of any anime podcast other than personal details of the people on the podcast
have you considered not consuming media you know you'll hate?

FatMebius said:
BP is a weird, interesting mess of ideas.
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yeah basically this
 
FatMebius said:
BP is a weird, interesting mess of ideas.
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Agreed. Its reputation definitely precedes its actual quality which is why I was surprised that it has a bit of a following in Japanese circles online. Now this could be because of the Jonathan Christmas meme or pure contrarianism but its good to see that even something like Brain Powerd has its fans.
FatMebius said:
I get the vibe that the production was kind of a shit show based on the animation quality at times, but for better or worse, it's a very Tomino show.
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All the more amazing that he would follow it up with Turn A less than a year later with most of the same staff and crew.
 
Chocolate Rain said:
even something like Brain Powerd has its fans.
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me and the lads went through it a year or two back as we were doing all the non-gedum Tominos, generally liked it but we mostly like Tomino tominoing the fuck out so this was def in our wheelhouse
on the occasion they animated the brains was pretty cool, and "lol fuck you we're splooging the budget on figure skating robots" was a fun humbug
 
XYZpdq Jr. said:
me and the lads went through it a year or two back as we were doing all the non-gedum Tominos, generally liked it but we mostly like Tomino tominoing the fuck out so this was def in our wheelhouse
on the occasion they animated the brains was pretty cool, and "lol fuck you we're splooging the budget on figure skating robots" was a fun humbug
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Despite the lack of movement on the Brains its actually a overall well produced show. The art and music are great throughout (ep. 21 is a standout) In My Dream is an absolute banger and the Brains themselves are very unique designs in terms of mecha. So whether it be the unfiltered Tominoisms or the presentation it'll definitely leave an impression on you.
 
XYZpdq Jr. said:
lol
lmao
what in the literal fuck is wrong with you
like half of your shit is "I went to Shithole and it was shitty! ARGH!"
there is not a single fucking thing you can get out of any anime podcast other than personal details of the people on the podcast
have you considered not consuming media you know you'll hate?
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I'm looking for shit to listen to when I'm standing out in the cold for hours. Trying my luck looking for anime opinions, praying to god they're not dumb as shit, is one of my means of alleviating my boredom. Plus if I hit a threshold of bullshit, as you saw, I stop listening.
I don't know why you're judging my hobbies when this whole website is dedicated to cyberstalking people who play with their feces.
 
Trollblade69 said:
I'm looking for shit to listen to when I'm standing out in the cold for hours. Trying my luck looking for anime opinions, praying to god they're not dumb as shit, is one of my means of alleviating my boredom. Plus if I hit a threshold of bullshit, as you saw, I stop listening.
I don't know why you're judging my hobbies when this whole website is dedicated to cyberstalking people who play with their feces.
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>looking for anime opinions
>not creating them
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I guess I'd listen to an anime podcast if there was a good one. It's all just retards who don't have a good grasp of anything outside of shonen shit or shitlibs. Or both. I'd rather hear the opinions of fellow retards on here or /m/ than literally any youtuber. At least when it comes to anime. There's plenty of good podcasts about film or video games. But literally no good podcasts about anime.
 
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