MASSIVE Erection Thread 2016 - Lizard has the advantage. Trump is spiraling towards defeat.

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All discussion of the candidates, updates and results should go here

For example- here's a video of Ted Cruz vying for world domination.


Also Hilary Clinton is a crook and nobody should have sex with her.

Discuss

(Note- The title will change as we get nearer the election, previous titles will be archived in the OP)
 
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feedtheoctopus said:
In the rest of the country people are seeing the long list of increasingly wacky theories Trump throws out about the Clintons
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It's not really a wacky theory that he threw out at this debate, that she "acid washed" her email server AFTER receiving a subpeona from the FBI. The "fact checker's" response to Trump's wacky theory is that she actually used BleachBit to remove potentially incriminating material before handing it over to the FBI, despite being under a subpeona.

She didn't respond to it. She just laughed it off.

What about Obama's "red line" or "line in the sand?" NBC's fact checkers verified that yes, she was secretary of state when it was made and she would have had input on it.

The Red Line was crossed, and the USA did not fulfill its promise they made to invade Syria for using chemical weapons. What makes you think Hillary would be a more successful leader when she was in a position of power when this happened?
 
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My point was that Trump's attacks are failures from the get go. Because they are. The audience in the debate hall can scream until their heads explode, they aren't the whole country. In the rest of the country people are seeing the long list of increasingly wacky theories Trump throws out about the Clintons and, true to form, decides that Donald is an idiot. I can say this with confidence because it has happened throughout Bill and Hillary's entire political career. He is not the first person to try any of this.
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Wacky theories ... ? The only people I've heard deny her criminal behavior and status of being too-big-to-fail are dedicated Hillary supporters like yourself. Moderate voters all seem to believe that Clinton is basically a war criminal who's too embedded in politics to be prosecuted for crimes that an average servicemember would hang for. There's no denying this. A cursory glance at even Comey's recommendation not to indict raises massive red flags and it was about that time that Trump spiked in the polls.

I'm sorry mate, but your interpretation here is just complete shit and wishful to the point of being a hallucination.

The only things that Hillary has going for her is 1) being a woman, 2) the media's portrayal that Trump is literally Hitler. The pundits on television can't even criticize Clinton without first doing a few beads on their rosary by badmouthing Trump.
 
Shugo said:
You still replied to my post to say it's autistic.
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Why are you still confused about this? I wasn't responding to you. I was quoting your post as an example of autism to weigh in on a conversation that people were already having here about ratings. (Pretty sure I'm repeating myself here.)

Although I'll admit I got sucked in to discussing your conspiracy theory with you. That's my fault.
 
feedtheoctopus said:
My point was that Trump's attacks are failures from the get go. Because they are. The audience in the debate hall can scream until their heads explode, they aren't the whole country. In the rest of the country people are seeing the long list of increasingly wacky theories Trump throws out about the Clintons and, true to form, decides that Donald is an idiot. I can say this with confidence because it has happened throughout Bill and Hillary's entire political career. He is not the first person to try any of this.
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You seem to be laboring under the delusion that the Clintons are innocent of most of those accusations, which I am sorry to inform you will not pay the dividends you expect on November 8th. They're a known criminal element, and built a kind of deviant peasant-dynasty with which to enrich themselves on the back of what is left of the American Republic. The list of evidence for their wrongdoings is so long it could fill a 319 page by itself. Friend, this is the wrong hill to die on, especially for a communist. You're defending the archetypal example of the capitalist bourgeoisie. You might instead say that example is Donald Trump, but the sad truth is that even if all accusations the media has hurled at Trump were true- he would only have executed a more incompetent, less debased, version of what the Clintons have built their legacy on.

I don't ask anyone vote for Trump, but defending Clinton, from a communist standpoint especially, is almost beyond belief.
 
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Wacky theories ... ? The only people I've heard deny her criminal behavior and status of being too-big-to-fail are dedicated Hillary supporters like yourself. Moderate voters all seem to believe that Clinton is basically a war criminal who's too embedded in politics to be prosecuted for crimes that an average servicemember would hang for. There's no denying this. A cursory glance at even Comey's recommendation not to indict raises massive red flags and it was about that time that Trump spiked in the polls.

I'm sorry mate, but your interpretation here is just complete shit and wishful to the point of being a hallucination.

The only things that Hillary has going for her is 1) being a woman, 2) the media's portrayal that Trump is literally Hitler. The pundits on television can't even criticize Clinton without first doing a few beads on their rosary by badmouthing Trump.
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"Moderate voters" are all abandoning Trump. And the simple reality is that all of his attacks on Clinton are going to fall flat like they have for 30 years. Getting people to attack her and not come up with effective counters to her policies is how Clinton prospers. When he started calling Bill Clinton a rapist that was comfortable territory for her.

You can hate her all you want, she's good at this. She's been humiliating people trying this shit since she started in politics. Now she's humiliating Trump.
 
feedtheoctopus said:
"Moderate voters" are all abandoning Trump. And the simple reality is that all of his attacks on Clinton are going to fall flat like they have for 30 years. Getting people to attack her and not come up with effective counters to her policies is how Clinton prospers. When he started calling Bill Clinton a rapist that was comfortable territory for her.

You can hate her all you want, she's good at this. She's been humiliating people trying this shit since she started in politics. Now she's humiliating Trump.
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His proposals sounded reasonable enough that I think an independent voter would think he knows what he's talking about, especially re: syria. I genuinely believe he's discussing war in the middle east with retired generals.

If you think that's just my opinion because I'm a surrogate, keep in mind I thought his first debate went poorly and I did not like any of his answers and only appreciated that he seems stable during the debate.
 
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His proposals sounded reasonable enough that I think an independent voter would think he knows what he's talking about, especially re: syria. I genuinely believe he's discussing war in the middle east with retired generals.

If you think that's just my opinion because I'm a surrogate, keep in mind I thought his first debate went poorly and I did not like any of his answers and only appreciated that he seems stable during the debate.
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Dude, he rambled incoherently and openly disparaged his running mate. C'mon.

But again, nothing to do with my point. Personal attacks on Clinton and conspiratorial sounding shit that paints her as having single handed control of the entire US government is not going to help him one iota, and it isn't helping him, and it will never help him.
 
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Trump threw out every right wing talking point and theory on Clinton he could find last night. She laughed at it and moved on. And there's a reason she was giggling. Because she knows, better than the entire republican base seemingly, how little all that shit is going to matter. She's been doing this 30 years. She's been up against the same kind of attempts at character assassination for 30 years also. If anything has been proven in that time it's that if she just ignores this shit it fades by itself. Because it does. Always. Especially if she's up against Senor Donaldo who sucks up negative attention like some sort of deranged vacuum cleaner

What's actually optimistic here is assuming that Trump is capable of bucking a well established trend of personal attacks on Clinton biting the attacker in the ass.

Whether those attacks have any merit to begin with is a separate issue.
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I wish there was a pessimistic rating right now
 
The only way for trump to win now was if clinton was caught raping impoverished orphans. On tape. Live. And then he'd win by ~5%.
 
Beaniebon said:
The only way for trump to win now was if clinton was caught raping impoverished orphans. On tape. Live. And then he'd win by ~5%.
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Wikileaks did keep saying they had some sweet October goodness. Bill Clinton is still dicking bimbos, but if they had any orphan rape emails, they would have released it before they faded into obscurity once again.

Bill actually seems to take after Trump: it does sound like he grabs women by the pussy.
 
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Dude, he rambled incoherently and openly disparaged his running mate. C'mon.
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He said he disagreed with Mike Pence. I cannot even imagine a mindset where disagreeing with someone is disparaging them. I actually appreciated that he just went, "hm, well, I disagree" instead of trying to weave in some doublethink bullshit. He sounded in control. That's impressive.
 
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He said he disagreed with Mike Pence. I cannot even imagine a mindset where disagreeing with someone is disparaging them. I actually appreciated that he just went, "hm, well, I disagree" instead of trying to weave in some doublethink bullshit. He sounded in control. That's impressive.
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He didn't sound in control, he sounded like he had so little concern for the actual specifics of policy that he didn't even bother to discuss it with the person who is going to take over the country in the event of his death. No matter how you spin it that expresses a shocking lack of foresight, at the very least.

People who are already voting for Trump aren't doing it because they like Pence and they don't really care if he gets thrown under the bus. Like I said elsewhere in this thread, I doubt that debate is going to win anybody for either Clinton or Trump. Still, moderate republicans and the rest of America saw that moment and were rather amazed at how tone deaf he came across. He basically admitted that his campaign hasn't even bothered to sit down and work out a coherent policy proposal on Syria and then when this was pointed out just shrugged and basically went "lol whatever who cares!?"
 
feedtheoctopus said:
He didn't sound in control, he sounded like he had so little concern for the actual specifics of policy that he didn't even bother to discuss it with the person who is going to take over the country in the event of his death. No matter how you spin it that expresses a shocking lack of foresight, at the very least.
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I disagree.
 
feedtheoctopus said:
"Moderate voters" are all abandoning Trump.
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Huh, it's almost as if we haven't heard this same talking point ad-nauseam for the past 16-months!

And the simple reality is that all of his attacks on Clinton are going to fall flat like they have for 30 years. Getting people to attack her and not come up with effective counters to her policies is how Clinton prospers. When he started calling Bill Clinton a rapist that was comfortable territory for her.

You can hate her all you want, she's good at this. She's been humiliating people trying this shit since she started in politics. Now she's humiliating Trump.
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I'd love to know what is this "simple reality" you live in, cuz the only thing keeping Clinton afloat (Besides all of that lard hidden under her pantsuit) is her Foundation. Her blunders with the 1993 health care, Whitewater and the 1994 gun grabbing act pretty much crashed any real political strength she had; Dhimmicrats subsequently lost both the house and the Senate on the 1994 elections, and in the wake of Slick Willie dicking too many Bimbos in the White Hut let to him losing his law license along with both Clintons essentially fleeing Arkansas (Which, unsurprisingly, flipped Red on all local levels not long after the fact), and both of her terms as senator for NY were acquired exclusively via carpetbagging.

Literally everything about her is artificial and pre-scripted, and this is unprecedented, regardless of whatever you feel about her, Trump, and this election as a whole.
 
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Huh, it's almost as if we haven't heard this same talking point ad-nauseam for the past 16-months!



I'd love to know what is this "simple reality" you live in, cuz the only thing keeping Clinton afloat (Besides all of that lard hidden under her pantsuit) is her Foundation. Her blunders with the 1993 health care, Whitewater and the 1994 gun grabbing act pretty much crashed any real political strength she had; Dhimmicrats subsequently lost both the house and the Senate on the 1994 elections, and in the wake of Slick Willie dicking too many Bimbos in the White Hut let to him losing his law license along with both Clintons essentially fleeing Arkansas (Which, unsurprisingly, flipped Red on all local levels not long after the fact), and both of her terms as senator for NY were acquired exclusively via carpetbagging.

Literally everything about her is artificial and pre-scripted, and this is unprecedented, regardless of whatever you feel about her, Trump, and this election as a whole.
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Americans don't care. As evidenced by the fact that Clinton is 11 points ahead. That's my point. Shit hits Clinton and slides off, it doesn't stick. The reason it doesn't stick is because the GOP has muddled its own message by blowing its load all over America for 30 years in a desperate attempt to drive these people out of politics. It has not worked, it will never work. Nobody outside of the far-right of American life cares about Bill dicking bimbos.
 
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