MASSIVE Erection Thread 2016 - Lizard has the advantage. Trump is spiraling towards defeat.

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All discussion of the candidates, updates and results should go here

For example- here's a video of Ted Cruz vying for world domination.

Also Hilary Clinton is a crook and nobody should have sex with her.

Discuss

(Note- The title will change as we get nearer the election, previous titles will be archived in the OP)

 

[Beaniebon]

Is Clinton really far left though? I thought she was not left enough, which is why I was disappointed in her nomination.

America, compared to most western countries, is pretty right leaning. So even people who many would consider moderate or even somewhat right appear to be really left.

That's why people like Sanders who, on a global scale, appear to be a normal leftist, was thought as a radically left communist and shit.

 

[feedtheoctopus]

Is Clinton really far left though? I thought she was not left enough, which is why I was disappointed in her nomination.

By global standards Clinton is actually pretty right wing. By American standards (which are skewed way to the right despite our reluctance to admit it) she's very much a centrist.

Thing is the GOP gone so far to the right over the years that a limited welfare state might as well be communism to them

 

[Joan Nyan]

Is Clinton really far left though? I thought she was not left enough, which is why I was disappointed in her nomination.

Any hint of leftism is too far left.

 

[Lackadaisy]

America, compared to most western countries, is pretty right leaning. So even people who many would consider moderate or even somewhat right appear to be really left.

That's why people like Sanders who, on a global scale, appear to be a normal leftist, was thought as a radically left communist and shit.

But the rest of the world is literally a bunch of Euro-Commies and Asia-Commies. That, and Trump's main man, Putin.

 

[Hyperion]

Any hint of leftism is too far left.

These sjws are... Unfortunate. They will be first against the wall.

Leftist thought is about economics, not gender or sucking cocks and pretending you're a woman.

Honestly identity politics don't even occur to actual leftist people

By actual leftist people I mean people who actually have a coherent ideology. The typical sjw is so ignorant that they can barely read, let alone study Marx and Trotsky.

 

[DZ 305]

Any hint of leftism is too far left.

And this is the train of thought that causes people to buy the idea the GOP is a hostile environment for people that could hover up usually democrat votes.
If the 2016 primaries serve as the new norm for how the base picks their candidates, the GOP as a whole deserves to collapse. Goddamn Theodore Roosevelt would too far left, even though he was one of the faces the GOP for decades. I doubt Ike would win, despite being able to put aside partisan politics.
After 2008, they began a purge of anyone who wouldn't go more and more right. They literally did the opposite of what cost them the White House. Their bullshitting about "fighting voter fraud" then getting caught admitting it was supposed to turn away usually Democrat voters.

If these are the tactics this new party wants to adopt then let it burn. Maybe a landslide will give the party factions a wake up call. If they insist on their petty squabbles over what's "True and Honest 'Conservatism'", let them go extinct. If I was a Republican Congressman, I'd pull a Specter and switch my party.

 

[Optimus Prime]

The funny thing with all these Regan comparisons is Trump is all about building the impossible wall, while Regan was all about tearing them down.

 

[DZ 305]

The funny thing with all these Regan comparisons is Trump is all about building the impossible wall, while Regan was all about tearing them down.

Not to mention NATO was the bulwark that kept Communism out of the West of Europe...that and St. John Paul II and Thatcher.

 

[Reddit Avenger]

Maybe a landslide will give the party factions a wake up call.

It didn't in 2012 in spite of their much publicized "election autopsy" so I see no reason why it would now.

If anything I can only imagine more people are going to try and emulate some of Trump's tactics in an ill-advised attempt to replicate is his (relative) success.

 

[Holdek]

Trump's unabashed lack of a "pivot" concerns me.

He's too damaged for it to matter really.

 

[Grog]

You're basically saying the Republican party needs to become more leftist and pro-immigration to survive. At that point you might as well have two Democrat parties.

 

[Brandobaris]

You're basically saying the Republican party needs to become more leftist and pro-immigration to survive. At that point you might as well have two Democrat parties.

The Democrats and Republicans seem to take up almost the same space as each other. I doubt the Republican party would support any closing of borders, just "tougher" immigration vetting. If you take the party leaders out of the equation, what are the real differences between the Democrats and the Republicans? They seem almost within a hairs breadth of each other.

 

[DZ 305]

You're basically saying the Republican party needs to become more leftist and pro-immigration to survive. At that point you might as well have two Democrat parties.

People say leftist and pro-immigration like they're dirty words. Pro-immigration doesn't mean let them all in. Shit, Trump praised Obama's deportation policy and planned to emulate it. Maybe instead of simply building another failed barrier on the southern border, the GOP could actually have a security presence on say...both of them. Unless the border concerns is not about national security at all.
If recognizing climate change, stopping coal and oil extraction subsidies, addressing real public health concerns like Zika and the price gouging in health care, and quit trying to lay a regressive tax on everyone to favor the rich, then trying to make up lost tax revenue by cutting our basic safety net for the third time is 'leftist', then yes they should be more 'leftist'.
I would vote for a Rooseveltian Republican party over this shit ball here.

 

[Lackadaisy]

Teddy Roosevelt's ghost 2020 y'all

 

[Brandobaris]

People say leftist and pro-immigration like they're dirty words. Pro-immigration doesn't mean let them all in. Shit, Trump praised Obama's deportation policy and planned to emulate it. Maybe instead of simply building another failed barrier on the southern border, the GOP could actually have a security presence on say...both of them. Unless the border concerns is not about national security at all.
If recognizing climate change, stopping coal and oil extraction subsidies, addressing real public health concerns like Zika and the price gouging in health care, and quit trying to lay a regressive tax on everyone to favor the rich, then trying to make up lost tax revenue by cutting our basic safety net for the third time is 'leftist', then yes they should be more 'leftist'.
I would vote for a Rooseveltian Republican party over this shit ball here.

Well yes if a Rooseveltian Republican party appeared it would actually be left of the Democrats today. I'm usually pegged as a moderate on political tests but in most of the western world I'd be viewed as left, or even far left. Thanks to most major parties veering right every cycle.

But when was pro-immigration considered a "leftist" ideology? I'm pretty sure almost any government has immigration. Maybe living in todays world with with countries with no immigration (North Korea) or no border checkpoint walk right on in (Germany) people think its some sort of left/right all or nothing deal.

 

[DZ 305]

Well yes if a Rooseveltian Republican party appeared it would actually be left of the Democrats today. I'm usually pegged as a moderate on political tests but in most of the western world I'd be viewed as left, or even far left.

But when was pro-immigration considered a "leftist" ideology? I'm pretty sure almost any government has immigration. Maybe living in todays world with with countries with no immigration (North Korea) or no border checkpoint walk right on in (Germany) people think its some sort of left/right all or nothing deal.

Anyone that isn't a nativist is a considered a cuck that will throw their daughter to the pack of foreigners who can never hope to assimilate, while anyone wants even the most basic stipulations when accepting immigrants and refugees ( a fucking passport check and inspection for cargo hauling vehicles at least) is a racist. If this is the future, I think 2020 will have us vote on two houseplants.

 

[AN/ALR56]

Any hint of leftism is too far left.

These sjws are... Unfortunate. They will be first against the wall.

Leftist thought is about economics, not gender or sucking cocks and pretending you're a woman.

Honestly identity politics don't even occur to actual leftist people

By actual leftist people I mean people who actually have a coherent ideology. The typical sjw is so ignorant that they can barely read, let alone study Marx and Trotsky.

Lol no, our 13 year leftists and socialist experiment ended in massive debt and failure and corruption.
Venezuela and Argentina had also ended in the same way.
Venezuela now is similar to 1991 communist state in its unrest,lack of growth and massive hunger.
Also don't quote the "buuut the worker's party in brazil removed 40 million from poverty line!",those a statistical falsehoods made by the state.

 

[DZ 305]

Lol no, our 13 year leftists and socialist experiment ended in massive debt and failure and corruption.
Venezuela and Argentina had also ended in the same way.
Venezuela now is similar to 1991 communist state in its unrest,lack of growth and massive hunger.
Also don't quote the "buuut the worker's party in brazil removed 40 million from poverty line!",those a statistical falsehoods made by the state.

Good thing socialism and communism aren't the only ideas that sit in the left

 

[JU 199]

If Trump loses the election (and I believe he will,) either Kasich or someone like him will be their guy for 2020. I too cannot wait for moderates on both sides to come back. This election really is showing us what happens if the far-right or the far-left if given a pedestal to speak on.

This election is the moderates fault. They've gotten fat and lazy while obvious problems endlessly mounted. Instead of looking at their own behavior objectively they blamed the electorate and hope they see sense (AKA their prerogatives) when the populists lose. The political establishment may want to go back to business as usual but it wont because its their fault. Just waiting it out wont work.

 

[Mungo]

Lol no, our 13 year leftists and socialist experiment ended in massive debt and failure and corruption.
Venezuela and Argentina had also ended in the same way.
Venezuela now is similar to 1991 communist state in its unrest,lack of growth and massive hunger.
Also don't quote the "buuut the worker's party in brazil removed 40 million from poverty line!",those a statistical falsehoods made by the state.

To be fair, Venezuela was only pushed over the tipping point relatively recently because of how the price of oil went into freefall. I wouldn't go so far as to say that their economy was particularly well-structured or corruption-free, though.

Why are there so many South American states that underwent disastrous Socialist revolutions? I was in Peru several months ago, and this same sort of thing (socialist revolution followed by corruption and then another revolution) happened there, too.