MASSIVE Erection Thread 2016 - Lizard has the advantage. Trump is spiraling towards defeat.

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All discussion of the candidates, updates and results should go here

For example- here's a video of Ted Cruz vying for world domination.


Also Hilary Clinton is a crook and nobody should have sex with her.

Discuss

(Note- The title will change as we get nearer the election, previous titles will be archived in the OP)
 
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If Trump delivered the same insult his polls would go up.

Trump went one better- He mocked Rubio's famous water bottle gaff from a few years ago.

The afternoon that could, eventually, be remembered as the moment when the Republican race went completely off the rails started with Marco Rubio tearing into Donald Trump over, among other things, grammatical errors in Trump's tweets.

And then it got weirder, as Trump, at a Texas rally, responded by mocking Rubio guzzling water during his response to the State of the Union address in 2012:

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You can't out-trump trump. It's not possible.
 
So when does the politics start?

Cause this season of WWE is the best yet and the Oval Office Smackdown is the best pay per view of the year.
 
So when does the politics start?

Cause this season of WWE is the best yet and the Oval Office Smackdown is the best pay per view of the year.
Politics have nothing to do with picking a president anymore, and they haven't for a long time. *sigh*
 
Help I've accidentally stumbled into a bizarre alternative universe where somebody who doesn't work for Michael Bloomberg wants him to be President, how do I get back

You don't.

Nobody wants Bloomberg to be president.

Except the financial markets
 
We should actually just go ahead and elect an outright Nazi and see if the Constitution actually works.

Trumps supporters don't care about the constitution, only trumps conquest for domination.

:trump: "The Constitution was written by cucks who were ugly and unfuckable. Make america great again * " :trump:

*by destroying america
 
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If either Trump or a conservative does run an independent campaign that does manage to split up the vote, I suppose the best case scenario would be the very off-chance that the electoral votes get divided in such a way that no-one gets 270, and that the election is put into the hands of the Republican-controlled House.
 
If either Trump or a conservative does run an independent campaign that does manage to split up the vote, I suppose the best case scenario would be the very off-chance that the electoral votes get divided in such a way that no-one gets 270, and that the election is put into the hands of the Republican-controlled House.

That would require the third party campaign to actually win some states, which seems unlikely.

Basically sums up my feelings on this election

The rise of Trump isn't that surprising - there's always been a place for authoritarianism at the heart of American politics.

The idea of somebody like Bloomberg attracting support, now that would be weird. (And it hasn't happened yet, so I'm not gonna start looking for the Stargate yet)
 
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At a campaign rally on Friday morning, Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida took out his phone and read from Donald Trump's Twitter account, hoping to mock the GOP front-runner. Things did not go according to plan.

Rubio made fun of Trump's spelling of the word "choker"—except that Trump's tweet, as Rubio read it, spelled the word correctly. "He spelled choker C-H-O-K-E-R," Rubio said. "Chocker."

Somebody needs a reboot
 
The GOP establishment is panicking. They're throwing everything they have at Trump.

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A handful of Republican big-money groups on Friday launched hard-hitting ad campaigns targeting Donald Trump that echoed Marco Rubio’s Thursday night debate smack-down of the GOP presidential front-runner.

The group behind what’s expected to be the most expensive and sustained assault ― a super PAC dedicated to Rubio called Conservative Solutions PAC ― has raised about $20 million in the past week alone, sources tell POLITICO. They say the cash will power a full-frontal assault on Trump in the delegate-rich states that vote in March, starting with Tuesday’s 14 Super Tuesday contests.

Taken together, the wave of big-money attack ads, which could total in the eight-figures, suggests that deep-pocketed conservative groups and their donors see the March contests as their last chance to stop the billionaire real-estate showman from winning the GOP nomination and taking over the party.

It’s a campaign that operatives and Republican Party leaders had been encouraging for weeks, and they’ve expressed frustration that none of the deep-pocketed groups on the right had been stepping up to wage it.

The hesitance stemmed at least partly from the super PACs devoted to Trump’s rivals. The operatives running those PACs seemed unwilling to spend serious money lashing Trump even when their preferred candidates went after the Manhattan billionaire. That was the case with the super PAC backing Jeb Bush, which spent a tiny fraction of its $119-million haul criticizing Trump, despite repeated, if ineffective, swipes at Trump by the former Florida governor, who has since dropped out of the race.

There was also quite a bit of wariness from major donors to fund attacks on Trump, which they feared could backfire. Not only has Trump demonstrated a willingness to call out his rivals’ major donors by name, but he’s also based his largely self-funded campaign on assertions that ― unlike his rivals ― he’s independent from deep-pocketed donors and interest groups that he argues have hijacked the system.

It’s unclear whether the wave of ads launched Friday ― combined with Rubio’s sudden aggressiveness towards Trump ― will be too little, too late. Trump maintains commanding leads in many of the states that vote on Super Tuesday and beyond, even boasting a wide lead in Rubio’s home state of Florida headed into the state’s March 15 primary, where a loss would be devastating for Rubio.

But Rubio’s Thursday night performance was welcomed by establishment donors and operatives alike as a sign that he was their best hope to stop Trump’s momentum, and also as revealing the blueprint for doing so. And several sources involved in the super PAC attacks launched Friday suggested their decisions to act now likely derived from similar assessments of the calendar and delegate math as the one that prompted Rubio and his rival Ted Cruz to tear into Trump on Thursday night. The attacks left the front-runner looking flustered and defensive for perhaps the first time in a campaign that he had mostly controlled.

Trump “hasn’t faced a sustained assault across the full spectrum of his vulnerabilities: his left-wing views on policy, his unsavory business practices, and his scandalous personal life,” said an operative involved in the big-money attacks on Trump. “Maybe none of that will move the needle, but we will get a chance to find out before the Democrats do.”

The pro-Rubio super PAC Conservative Solutions unveiled two Trump attack ads early Friday morning. One hit the billionaire for his foreign policy inexperience and unwillingness to more stridently side with Israel over the Palestinians. The other cast Trump as a greedy businessman who “uses sleazy bankruptcy laws to avoid paying workers” and who is playing Republican voters for “fools.”

Those lines of attack parallel taunting riffs that Rubio delivered against Trump to great effect in Thursday’s debate on CNN. The Florida Senator picked right back up on Friday morning, seemingly taking great pleasure in Trump’s angry pushback after the debate, which included misspelled tweets (since-deleted) that blasted Rubio as a “chocker,” and “leightweight."

Rubio repeatedly called the billionaire businessman a “con artist” on Friday, first on the morning shows and then at a Dallas rally, where he also suggested Trump may have wet his pants during the debate. Conservative Solutions picked up the con-artist line, and sources who work with major donors told POLITICO that the donors can’t get enough of the new offensive.

The super PAC has already purchased or reserved $6.4 million worth of ads in the week leading up to Super Tuesday and the week following it, according to an analysis of advertising buys for POLITICO by The Tracking Firm. By comparison, Trump’s own campaign has only committed less than $900,000 to ad spending in the Super Tuesday states.

And the donor sources predicted the pro-Rubio super PAC will be able to continue bringing in a stream of big checks if the PAC and its favored candidate keep up the Trump assault.

A couple other groups picked up the trail later Friday, launching ads that picked up separate lines of attack Rubio used during Thursday’s debate.

The non-profit American Future Fund announced a seven-figure ad campaign highlighting accusations of fraud against the now-defunct Trump University. AFF spokesman Stuart Roy described the ads as “the first step in a multi-million dollar effort to ensure Donald Trump is not our next President."

And Our Principles PAC, a conservative super PAC created specifically to stop Trump, unveiled an ad Friday afternoon hitting Trump for employing undocumented immigrants.

Yet, puzzlingly, a handful of super PACs devoted to boosting Cruz’s campaign still appeared to be shying away from aggressively taking on Trump, despite the Texas senator’s own aggressive efforts to take on Trump.

A network of pro-Cruz super PACs called Keep the Promise, on Friday afternoon debuted a $2.4 million Super Tuesday campaign comprising a series of hagiographic positive ads that did not once mention Trump, Rubio or even Democratic presidential candidates Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders.

That prompted puzzlement among some Cruz supporters, who had hoped the super PACs would follow Cruz’s lead. Some suggested that the disconnect between the campaign and the super PACs reveals the difficulty posed by federal coordination restrictions, which bar campaigns and big-money groups from working together on advertising strategy. Though Cruz has been ramping up his attacks on Trump for weeks, so it shouldn’t have been hard for the super PAC operatives to follow suit.

Another Cruz super PAC called Stand for Truth took a slightly sharper approach, featuring clips of Trump, Clinton and Sanders, while warning that, "with so much at stake, we can't afford to take a chance on this election." But the ad's most direct swipe comes at Rubio, over his immigration policy.

But the ad, backed by a $1-million buy in four Super Tuesday states, seems like patty cake next to the testy back-and-forth on the debate stage Thursday.

They don't understand. It's probably too late to stop him.
 
The GOP establishment is panicking. They're throwing everything they have at Trump.

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They don't understand. It's probably too late to stop him.
If anything this will probably give Trump even more ammunition to prove the establishment is corrupt and paint himself as the victim. They are throwing money at him so he must be a threat after all.
 
If anything this will probably give Trump even more ammunition to prove the establishment is corrupt and paint himself as the victim. They are throwing money at him so he must be a threat after all.

This is certauly a possibilty. Trump has created a narrative where the establishment has been screwing the base over.

If the attack ads end with any association to the GOP and/or Rubio then the audience might consider that evidence of trump's assertions.
 
All they are doing at this point is damaging each other, guaranteeing whoever gets the nomination is fucked right out of the starting gate.
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/28/us/politics/donald-trump-republican-party.html
Despite all the forces arrayed against Mr. Trump, the interviews show, the party has been gripped by a nearly incapacitating leadership vacuum and a paralytic sense of indecision and despair, as he has won smashing victories in South Carolina and Nevada. Donors have dreaded the consequences of clashing with Mr. Trump directly. Elected officials have balked at attacking him out of concern that they might unintentionally fuel his populist revolt. And Republicans have lacked someone from outside the presidential race who could help set the terms of debate from afar.

The endorsement by Mr. Christie, a not unblemished but still highly regarded figure within the party’s elite — he is a former chairman of the Republican Governors Association — landed Friday with crippling force. It was by far the most important defection to Mr. Trump’s insurgency: Mr. Christie may give cover to other Republicans tempted to join Mr. Trump rather than trying to beat him. Not just the Stop Trump forces seemed in peril, but also the traditional party establishment itself.
Former Gov. Michael O. Leavitt of Utah, a top adviser to Mr. Romney’s 2012 presidential campaign, said the party was unable to come up with a united front to quash Mr. Trump’s campaign.

“There is no mechanism,” Mr. Leavitt said. “There is no smoke-filled room. If there is, I’ve never seen it, nor do I know anyone who has. This is going to play out in the way that it will.”
Resistance to Mr. Trump still runs deep. The party’s biggest benefactors remain totally opposed to him. At a recent presentation hosted by the billionaires Charles G. and David H. Koch, the country’s most prolific conservative donors, their political advisers characterized Mr. Trump’s record as utterly unacceptable, and highlighted his support for government-funded business subsidies and government-backed health care, according to people who attended.

But the Kochs, like Mr. Adelson, have shown no appetite to intervene directly in the primary with decisive force.

The American Future Fund, a conservative group that does not disclose its donors, announced plans on Friday to run ads blasting Mr. Trump for his role in an educational company that is alleged to have defrauded students. But there is only limited time for the commercials to sink in before some of the country’s biggest states award their delegates in early March.

Again all this does is prove his fucking point.

They have *no* idea how to fight him.
 
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