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Mr. Soy Face Incarnate is "punching up" to the successful movie. By the next Disney release, he won't even remember what he was ordered to write about it.
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Mr. Soy Face Incarnate is "punching up" to the successful movie. By the next Disney release, he won't even remember what he was ordered to write about it.
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Never been much into comics, but have been a really big fan of the Fox Xmen/Deadpool movies for the last 25 years, even the bad ones. I thought this was a pretty good sendoff to them. I think this should be used as an opportunity to close the book on these particular versions of the characters as opposed to rolling them into the extremely shitty MCU, but of course that isn't going to happen.
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This guy looks like Moviebob's faggier cousin. The film was entertaining, but it would have been better if it was as anti-gay as this retard claims.
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Speaking of faggots, here's another clickbait journalist and soyboy beta cuck from IGN, Simon Cardy, that gave Deadpool & Wolverine a bad review while giving She-Hulk a good review.
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I don't even know what's bothering this faggot, but I have an idea.
The problem is that Deadpool is a troll, basically. The mistake was trying to give that trolling an identity by making him "pansexual" instead of letting him be a schizo who would fuck an elephant for the joke. Him telling Gambit he's handsome has nothing to do with Wade's sexuality, but rather's a play on acknowledging how he's meant to be super hot in comics.
Same way, the poster is not meant to symbolize Deadpool being a "damsel", but rather that he's such a Wolverine fanboy that he's overwhelmed by how manly he is.
This movie had at some point Wolverine, Blade, and Gambit in the same scene, top masculinity right there. I'm sure a few faggot critics felt threatened by how positively people reacted to them and realised nobody wants to fuck them because they're pussies who look like they overdose with soymilk.
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Re: Deadpool, I had a lot of fun. It was pretty much what I expected, less of a cohesive movie and more of a "shut up and play the hits" feel good victory lap. The story sucked, but the story was never the point, it only exists to shamelessly string together the tidbits everyone is hyped for. The comparisons to No Way Home are as appropriate as they are obvious, it's basically the same movie. That said... I recently rewatched the MCU Spider-Man trilogy, and without the novelty of the spectacle, No Way Home is some of the goyest slop they've put out. I expect DP3 to suffer a similar fate. It will be remembered fondly for the spectacle, gotchas and feel-good moments, but it won't be worth a rewatch. Hell, it's barely worth talking about. Though I'll admit I teared up when Laura came back, because I have a huge soft spot for the character ever since X-Men Evolution and Innocence Lost/Target X, I loved Logan and I love seeing that version canonized and developed a little more.
Re: Dr. Downey Jr., I just don't care. If anything I'm relieved because I can stop holding out hope for a good Doom casting. Disney going from genociding white male heroes to casting the same actors for white male villains tells me everything I need to know.
It's been said to death but I already went through this shit with Marvel Now. You kikes sold out your readership in a bid for the tumblr audience in 2012, it didn't work then, and not only have you ostensibly not learned but you're adapting the exact same material you shit out back then. I can only conclude you're being paid so much behind closed doors to push the lefty agenda that you don't care if you lose money on the frontend.
Frankly (heh) I consider it a blessing, I wouldn't want to see what Disney would do with the character today.
Re: Dr. Downey Jr., I just don't care. If anything I'm relieved because I can stop holding out hope for a good Doom casting. Disney going from genociding white male heroes to casting the same actors for white male villains tells me everything I need to know.
It's been said to death but I already went through this shit with Marvel Now. You kikes sold out your readership in a bid for the tumblr audience in 2012, it didn't work then, and not only have you ostensibly not learned but you're adapting the exact same material you shit out back then. I can only conclude you're being paid so much behind closed doors to push the lefty agenda that you don't care if you lose money on the frontend.
It's not the commercial aspect that makes him unviable, God knows Disney has no issue with that. It's because positively portraying a heterosexual white man with firearms positively enacting change extrajudicially has been illegal ever since Jan 6.
Frankly (heh) I consider it a blessing, I wouldn't want to see what Disney would do with the character today.
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It was a mixed bag. I enjoyed it well enough and the misdirect from "He's going to say the line!" got me - laughed out loud at that. "Flame on!" The hate for the old Fantastic Four movies always seemed pretty mean - they were kids movies. And the director said they purposely did Galactus in that obscured way so that any future movies would have freedom to have comics accurate Galactus emerge from the clouds or do the weird smoke entity as they wished.
I'm not a fan of nostalgia bait but even I got a kick out of seeing Electra step into view. Also laughed out loud at the exchange between them when they learn
I enjoyed the villain - I mean Cassandra. Actress did a good job, the finger in skull effect was nice and found her fun to watch. Kind of wish that she hadn't died.
The highlight was Hugh Jackman. He acted nearly everybody else off screen and I enjoyed the serious tone he struck. On the whole I enjoyed this movie more than the other two but the other two were both much better movies (#1 especially). The contradiction is simply that I like more serious movies. So though both one and two are much better and more tightly written scripts, three is actually closer to the sort of movie I enjoy.
Pros:
On the Doom casting - terrible, terrible, terrible. They must be paying a fortune to get RDJ back and it wont work. It makes no sense to get one of the principal actors back for a completely different role in the same franchise. He's also badly miscast. Doom requires a classical actor to portray him. (Huh - that sounded exactly like something Doom would say). He's an unironically dramatic character. He needs someone who can deliver rhetoric sincerely as someone who both knows what a iambic pentameter is and is absolutely not ashamed to use one. You need Ralph Fiennes or someone.
I'm not a fan of nostalgia bait but even I got a kick out of seeing Electra step into view. Also laughed out loud at the exchange between them when they learn
Daredevil is dead.
Deadpool: "Oh, I'm so sorry."
Electra: "It's fine"
Deadpool: "Oh, I'm so sorry."
Electra: "It's fine"
I enjoyed the villain - I mean Cassandra. Actress did a good job, the finger in skull effect was nice and found her fun to watch. Kind of wish that she hadn't died.
The highlight was Hugh Jackman. He acted nearly everybody else off screen and I enjoyed the serious tone he struck. On the whole I enjoyed this movie more than the other two but the other two were both much better movies (#1 especially). The contradiction is simply that I like more serious movies. So though both one and two are much better and more tightly written scripts, three is actually closer to the sort of movie I enjoy.
Pros:
- Hugh Jackman. In the Suit. With the Emoting.
- Cassandra. Bald chicks are a long-shot but when they pull it off, I dig it. Sue me - I liked her.
- Scattered genuinely funny moments like the F4 misdirect or the Henry Cavil cameo
- Gambit. Wasn't a fan of playing his accent for laughs and the headpiece made Channing Tatum's face look like a pumpkin. But the SFX showed how fun his powers can be. Tatum is talented and did it well but I do feel Gambit should be leaner, not body builder.
- "At last - a Wolverine who's not ashamed to be in a superhero movie!" Deadpool sums up my feelings exactly. Jackman looks great in the yellow suit and putting the mask on was great. I am of the opinion the mask looked good.
- Liked Vanessa much less after this. Dude goes through all that in movies 1&2, they have all this chemistry and when he hits a down period in his life she ditches him. Fuck that - he can do better.
- Too little use of the returning characters. Negasonic Teenage Warhead's interactions with him in 1&2 were fun, as were Yuki's in 2. Dupinder should have been the friend, not the other guy.
- That dog is ridiculously ugly. I'm sorry dog but you look like a malnourished gremlin.
- The script is a bit of a mess.
- Mr. Paradox. I've never seen Loki. Is he a villain in it or something? The actor is talented but he's playing more of a stage-y villain compared to the other one. I don't blame the actor - he's good. But the movie is trying to pitch two different things at once.
- Constant homoerotic "humour". Deadpool has an erection when he's pressed up against Wolverine, crotch shots, etc. Off-putting.
- Deadpool doesn't actually end up in the MCU universe at the end. Thought that was the point.
- If Logan dying to save X-23 in his movie means the anchor person is gone and his universe will die then it's impossible / meaningless for him to sacrifice his life to save everybody because when he dies, the universe dies.
- Cassandra must have magical power to use the slingring. Strange was surprised that Ned could use it in NWH, but I guess she could have those or read from Strange's mind how to do it. Gets a pass due to possible off-screen justifications
- I don't really get the TVA. So time travel and multiverse are the same thing, kind of? All multiverses are the result of a split on some event? The TVA delete multiverses that take unapproved paths? If every different event causes a new timeline then doesn't time travel just lead to more universes? Eh, there are probably answers - it's just messy in this movie.
- Deadpool's universe now has two Wolverines? Or is his universe's Wolverine the one from Logan in which case because that's in the future the timelines don't make sense. And if it's not his universe's Wolverine, how does he know about X-23?
On the Doom casting - terrible, terrible, terrible. They must be paying a fortune to get RDJ back and it wont work. It makes no sense to get one of the principal actors back for a completely different role in the same franchise. He's also badly miscast. Doom requires a classical actor to portray him. (Huh - that sounded exactly like something Doom would say). He's an unironically dramatic character. He needs someone who can deliver rhetoric sincerely as someone who both knows what a iambic pentameter is and is absolutely not ashamed to use one. You need Ralph Fiennes or someone.
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No, he's a new character. The black lady who arrests him at the end is from Loki tho.
Tatum's face is entirely too wide to wear a headpiece like that.
The way it works, according to Loki, is timelines branch naturally all the time, but this produces variants, and eventually Kang variants will discover time/multiversal travel and end up fighting each other, which will cause the multiverse to collapse. So one Kang killed all the others and set up the TVA with a fake story about a Sacred Timeline that needs protection; the real mission of the TVA, unbeknownst to themselves, is to prevent timeline branches from producing more Kangs. But this Kang is tired and wants to be replaced, and selected Loki (the one who escapes in Endgame) and a female variant of Loki, Sophie, to succeed him in running the TVA. Sophie kills him instead, releasing the branches and bringing back the Kangs. In the end, Loki sacrifices himself/ascends to God of Stories and turns the tangle of timelines into a tree, like Yggrassil, stabilizing the multiverse (Kangs still exist tho), but becoming trapped at its center forever. Since then, the TVA just tries to prevent time/multiverse travel that could cause the universes to become unstable.
So, yeah, time travel and multiverse travel are the same thing, a timeline branch is a new universe, but if it's close enough to the universe it branched from, it's just considered an adjacent split. If it diverges much more, it's a universe of it's own.
Should also be noted that time travel doesn't change the past, only creates branches... except they contradicted that rule in the Miss Marvel show. Maybe it comes down to how you time travel, I don't fucking know.
Yeah that's unclear, at the time of Deadpool, all the downfall shit that happened before Logan hasn't happened yet, so there's the Wolverine who will be Logan running around somewhere, and the Wolverine that Deadpool brought to the timeline. That said, this Wolverine knows about X-23 because Deadpool told him. She doesn't even exist (natively; obviously there's the future one they rescued) in the timeline at this point.
On the one hand, I think it's better this way thematically. The whole movie is about how Fox and all those other old productions got thrown into the trash, but even as they get made fun of, they mattered. It's not for nothing that Blade is considered the actual start of the "new Comic Book Movie era". So Deadpool and/or Wolverine ditching their world and their people for the MCU would have been thematically hollow.
On the other, the story "heals" the universe, and you can bet your ass this universe will be featured in whatever Secret Wars ends up being, and that's when these characters will properly interact with the MCU.
This is a cope, but I see a lot of people saying "well, it was a villain who said it, it probably doesn't work exactly like that".
As an aside, between Marvel, Sony, and Fox's corpse, they're adding too many things to the mechanics of their shared multiverse. Interactions between universes cause incursions! There's canon events that can't be avoided or the universe dies! There's anchor beings and if they die, the universe also goes (eventually)! There's nexus beings who exist only once in the multiverse! And so on.
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Thank you for a very informative post. Regarding the last part I realise now my wording was ambiguous. I meant how does Deadpool know about X-23 given he's not from the Logan universe (at least it doesn't make sense that he is).
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He got a bit of exposition about her from the TVA, and maybe he did some research before going to dig Logan up, but you can always count on his 4th wall knowledge.
Enough to know about X-23 and Alioth, not enough to know this is Johnny, not Cap.
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okay so I am going to make a prediction right fucking now that someone save this post and @ me in a few years. I guarantee you the joke about Thor holding Deadpool and crying will be paid off in Avengers 5 or 6. my wife was like no that's a dumb joke and I was like no fucking way that is going to fucking happen but it will be this, my crackpot theory is that Maguire or Jackman will die saving someone important or the whole MCU universe or something and after a few minutes of people mourning a la the end of endgame with Tony, or it will be a post credits we will cut to Deadpool and Thor and Deadpool will have been involved or doing something else and it will be a joke that only Thor gives a fuck about him, everyone else is or was crying for Tobey/Hugh and only Thor gives a shit because he will think he's funny and they will be buddies in the movie for a bit before we get there. maybe Deadpool disappears in the final act and we don't see him again in the rest of the movie and then the post credits will be he broke his leg or something but is pretending like he's dying and only Thor cares lol
it will probably have a line where Thor says something like Wade my friend I have to leave everyone else is crying for that guy, over there. and Deadpool will be like oh FUCK him you didn't even know the guy I'm suffering over here and it will have the one allocated fuck in the PG-13 movie
it will probably have a line where Thor says something like Wade my friend I have to leave everyone else is crying for that guy, over there. and Deadpool will be like oh FUCK him you didn't even know the guy I'm suffering over here and it will have the one allocated fuck in the PG-13 movie
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RDJ has range man. Look at Chaplin.
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him as doom in this is terrible but people talk about RDJ like he's an okay actor and not great and he is, he totally could be the best doom possible, it's just obvious bullshit stunt casting here, in an ernest fantastic four movie I would fucking love to see him tackle it. in this? no I don't want it
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Mark my words, they're going to throw money at Ryan Reynolds and Hugh Jackman to play Deadpool and Wolverine into the next big Avengers movie. They'll just do something like, "We can't best Dr. Doom without these guys" and pull them in through a portal or something. A few recent Marvel movies have bombed and this one is doing great, so Disney is going to drive a truck load of money to both their houses to get them in it.
The TVA guy said the process takes thousands of years, but he was doing it quickly as a mercy killing type of thing. I interpreted that as the kids from Logan would have lived out their lives long before the universe collapsed.
I don't think it's meant to be taken that seriously, anyway tbh, but then I guess you are Overly Serious.
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William H Macy and Christina Ricci have range, too. I still don't want to see either of them play Doom.
Doom requires presence of a very particular kind.
Not Jackman. There's a line right at the end of:
Deadpool: "See you around?"
Wolverine: "Probably not."
that is a direct statement about future appearances. Hugh Jackman has now had not one but two farewell performances in the role. That's it for him in the role, imo. I don't think he wants to do more.
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yeah you're right there is literally no way in hell, Avengers 5 or 6 doesn't have Tobey Maguire, Ryan Reynolds and Hugh Jackman. I read a rumor that Hugh Jackman said he would only do Deadpool 3 if they guaranteed him screen time with Tobey Maguire and I totally believe that
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this was a meta joke about how he keeps coming back and will again you had the literal opposite read of what I think was intended, could be proven wrong of course but I doubt it. I don't know how you could write off deadpools "til he's 90" which while hyperbole is also basically saying he's coming back again but say him saying probably not is confirmation he won't. and on to the Tobey rumor like he was in Spider-Man and they cut it, and he has been vocal about being mad about it for 22 years because it made those worlds not interconnect and he sees tobey as like his peer in they were the actors who brought marvel shit mainstream in movies.
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I read them differently due to tone. The "till he's 90" is delivered by Deadpool in his squee fourth wall voice. "Probably not" is done during one of the flim's more emotionally serious moments by Jackman as a refutation to Deadpool suggesting there'll be more.
Time will tell which of us right. But if I'm wrong I'll likely learn of it here rather than the movies because barring a couple of exceptions I'm out of the MCU now. I'll watch S2 of Ms Marvel if they make it (probably a long shot but I can hope) or a re-edited Doctor Strange 2 movie that entirely omitted America Chavez (joking not joking). But that's probably it. There are properties that in theory I would like to see - Fantastic Four and Doom. But I don't trust them with it. ESPECIALLY with the casting of RDJ as Doom. One of the most desperate stunts in cinema I have ever witnessed.
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hey pal, I feel you entirely. the sad part is I don't give a shit which one of us is right, I liked Deadpool 3, but I don't care at ALL going forward and honestly I might have until that RDJ announcement. I assumed that DP3 was going to bring back the Fox verse and secret wars (or the one before it) was going to be AvX and have tobey in it from the second I walked out of no way home and I think DP3 itself sort of proved that to me, but I don't care. I haven't liked any of these MCU shits in a long time, besides DP3 and it's because I was like 5 in the theater for X1 so Hugh always gets me excited, reminds me of being a little kid watching the first or second one with my brother in the theater and being like DAMN FUCK YEAH! my bro grew up with the cartoon and got to see the live action version when we had nothing of that sort really and I had both.
going forward idk I will see those movies but with low expectations, I expect it to just play at my heartstrings by having Hugh and Tobey back to back fighting which I almost guarantee will be there but I couldn't be bothered to care about the story or any of the bullshit leading up to it. am I going to see Thunderbolts or Cap 4? fuck no. I'll be there for my memberberries and walk out and go well, they did the thing.