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I dropped out of Wandavision before the end but how is Agnes the bad guy and how did she deserve what happened to her? Wasn't Wanda knowingly creating the entire fake scenario that trapped everybody in their roles? Or did they somehow blame Agatha for Wanda doing that?
 
Im actually kinda hyped for Deadpool. It looks like a good time and them actually bringing back most of the old guard looks fun.
 
I dropped out of Wandavision before the end but how is Agnes the bad guy and how did she deserve what happened to her? Wasn't Wanda knowingly creating the entire fake scenario that trapped everybody in their roles? Or did they somehow blame Agatha for Wanda doing that?
Haven't seen it myself since it aired. From what I remember Wanda created the thing herself, and that's what drew Agatha in. As for why she's the baddie, presumably because she was fucking with Wanda and attempted to steal her powers.
 
Haven't seen it myself since it aired. From what I remember Wanda created the thing herself, and that's what drew Agatha in. As for why she's the baddie, presumably because she was fucking with Wanda and attempted to steal her powers.
If I could steal the gun off a lunatic who kept shooting it at innocent bystanders, I probably would as well. Wanda is a terrible person. Invades Bruce's mind provoking a psychotic break which devastates part of a city, probably results in deaths from it (this is the IM vs. Hulk fight in Avengers 2), helps a genocidal AI enact a plan to wipe out humanity, traps an entire town including the kids in a Hellish psychic simulation of life where their bodies are not under their own control, unleashes a giant demon in New York, attacks a Tibetan temple and kills lots of the mages there, murders heroes of a parallel Earth, some in an especially gruesome manner. And she tries to steal someone else's kids for herself. She is the worst person.

Though I will admit she is hot.
 
If I could steal the gun off a lunatic who kept shooting it at innocent bystanders, I probably would as well.
The difference is in this scenario Agatha is not taking the gun because she wants to stop Wanda shooting innocents, but because she wants to use it to shoot innocents herself. That being said I 100% agree with the rest of your post about Wanda actually being a terrible person based on her own actions, especially post Infinity War, even if Marvel refuse to actually call her a bad guy.
 
The difference is in this scenario Agatha is not taking the gun because she wants to stop Wanda shooting innocents, but because she wants to use it to shoot innocents herself. That being said I 100% agree with the rest of your post about Wanda actually being a terrible person based on her own actions, especially post Infinity War, even if Marvel refuse to actually call her a bad guy.
I don't actually know what Agatha wants with the power though I find it hard to imagine it's worse than trapping people in a living Hell simulation of being a conscious puppet in somebody else's play. Though I take your point.

Actually, this conversation caused me to re-watch Wanda's fight with the alternative universe heroes and not only did it remind me just how horrific she is: aside from any motivations she has, just not having the basic human aversion to murdering a guy by imploding his brain or to ripping a man's body into spaghetti is deeply concerning, but it actually reminded me of the MCU's actual least sympathetic character and it's not Wanda after all. It's the alternate universe Captain Marvel. Watch her reaction to the very horrific deaths of her two male colleagues at the 0:50 mark.


It's basically "oh I know you didn't!". Not a drop of empathy, just pique that someone should disrespect her like that.
 
The Wanda vs the Illuminati scene mostly looked cool (thank you, Sam Raimi), but oh my god it is so stupid.

Black Widow was the straw that broke the camel's back in regards to the MCU for me (Seriously, that movie is every bit the catastrophe that Wonder Woman '84 was if you ask me), but if I had not seen that movie, then this specific scene from the Multiverse of Madness would have done it for me.

A shame-- the Multiverse of Madness had some really fun scenes in it (the fight with the musical notes was so campy and also really fun, for example), but the writing is just so fucking bad, lol. I remember watching it for the first time, thinking how it came across as a really bad Rick & Morty episode, only to find out later that a Rick & Morty writer wrote the movie, so ...

I also could have gone at least 20 more minutes of Zombie Strange because that could have been great and it didn't last nearly as long as it should have.
 
Watch her reaction to the very horrific deaths of her two male colleagues at the 0:50 mark.
The whole scene is filth, what disgusts me most is how Black Bolt is treated like a bitch when he is the most dangerous character in that room by multiple dimensions.
 
The whole scene is filth, what disgusts me most is how Black Bolt is treated like a bitch when he is the most dangerous character in that room by multiple dimensions.
They essentially killed the characters off based on their diversity points. The two white guys die immediately without putting up any fight, while the niggress is the last one standing.
 
Wait, wasn't spiderman 4 supposed to have mysterio as the villain? Or was it another spiderman 3 situation where Raimi wanted to do something with a villain (sandman and harry) but the execs forced him to add another villain as well (venom)?
You aren't wrong, Mysterio does show up but Vulture was going to be the main antagonist.
 
A shame-- the Multiverse of Madness had some really fun scenes in it (the fight with the musical notes was so campy and also really fun, for example), but the writing is just so fucking bad, lol. I remember watching it for the first time, thinking how it came across as a really bad Rick & Morty episode, only to find out later that a Rick & Morty writer wrote the movie, so ...
Well that explains a lot.

The movie lost most of its points with me right at the start when I see Strange and the woman he loves are now separate and he's attending her marriage to another man.

Then America Chavez is mostly just obnoxious and Strange continues to be further devalued in his own movie.

The best parts of that movie you can attribute to Sam Raimi. But the writers made fundamental decisions which you just can't get away from. It's impossible not to notice that the two female characters battle her for several minutes and the male characters all die in about two seconds each.
 
Wait, wasn't spiderman 4 supposed to have mysterio as the villain? Or was it another spiderman 3 situation where Raimi wanted to do something with a villain (sandman and harry) but the execs forced him to add another villain as well (venom)?
I know he was meant to be a cameo but Vulture was the main villain.

A video was posted and I didn’t see it but I heard Sony tried to force Lizard into the movie
 
If I could steal the gun off a lunatic who kept shooting it at innocent bystanders, I probably would as well. Wanda is a terrible person. Invades Bruce's mind provoking a psychotic break which devastates part of a city, probably results in deaths from it (this is the IM vs. Hulk fight in Avengers 2), helps a genocidal AI enact a plan to wipe out humanity, traps an entire town including the kids in a Hellish psychic simulation of life where their bodies are not under their own control, unleashes a giant demon in New York, attacks a Tibetan temple and kills lots of the mages there, murders heroes of a parallel Earth, some in an especially gruesome manner. And she tries to steal someone else's kids for herself. She is the worst person.

Though I will admit she is hot.
I agree with most of what you said, but... Hot? She looks just like her 2 gremlin sisters.
 
I agree with most of what you said, but... Hot? She looks just like her 2 gremlin sisters.
I don't agree that her sisters look like gremlins. They clearly resemble gelflings from The Dark Crystal.
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But as to Elizabeth Olsen, whilst there is clearly some similar bone structure and dinner-plate sized eyes, she has obviously escaped the Skeksis and only the most homosexual of men could deny an attraction.

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it actually reminded me of the MCU's actual least sympathetic character and it's not Wanda after all. It's the alternate universe Captain Marvel. Watch her reaction to the very horrific deaths of her two male colleagues at the 0:50 mark.


It's basically "oh I know you didn't!". Not a drop of empathy, just pique that someone should disrespect her like that.
Not much of a defense since it exposes the absolute shitshow production was, but the scene was supposed to be significantly different and the reaction was filmed without context, then just put where they thought it would fit.

Hell, the lineup was gonna be different; I think at different points in production, Reed, Black Bolt, and maybe even Xavier weren't there. It's known that Bruce Campbell was gonna play Balder the Brave, and be the first to die.

+1 for this.

Even with the direction they took Syd and David’s relationship in the last season, I think it’s a good show. Much better than pretty much every other Marvel series at least.
Farouk alone (and probably my favorite live action of Xavier) makes it worth watching.
 
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>Red Hulk
>MCU Hulk will never be un-buckbroken
Just fuck my shit up
https://youtube.com/watch?v=O_A8HdCDaWM
The bit about "what if we disagree on what to do", so it's just gonna be the same ideological conflict as Civil War (and then it'll get dropped just as quickly for a shallower conflict)

The way they comment on Thunderbolt being recasted by Harrison Ford is so unnecessary. Either make Ford wear a moustache, or don't even comment on it.
People liked the lampshading when they changed Rhodey's actor, so they're trying to pull it off again
 
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