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I kinda like how it's putting more focus on being an action thriller with superhero shit as opposed to being straight superhero slop.

Still it's sparce as far as stuff to get Interested in. There was a shit ton of drama about the Israeli superhero being in the movie and I wonder if she got cut.
 
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New Captain America trailer doesn't look bad but, yeah, it looks like a retread of Winter Solider. I thought the Falcon show largely sucked and the showrunner for that is the director for this, so I'm not getting my hopes up. Plus, there's been a long standing rumor that initial test screenings for the film were so bad that they essentially re-did the entire movie.
 
New Captain America trailer doesn't look bad but, yeah, it looks like a retread of Winter Solider. I thought the Falcon show largely sucked and the showrunner for that is the director for this, so I'm not getting my hopes up. Plus, there's been a long standing rumor that initial test screenings for the film were so bad that they essentially re-did the entire movie.
It's insane how practically every dam marvel movie has had to be re shot. Has any of them had a clean shoot?
 
It's insane how practically every dam marvel movie has had to be re shot. Has any of them had a clean shoot?
* Pay hundreds of millions to DEI grift.
* Pay nothing to special effect studios until they decide it is actually cheaper to never work with you again despite being the largest media franchise corporation in the world.
* Outsource special effects to third world.
* They are so slow you actually make them start working two years before filming starts.
* Eventually the quality and direction is so shit you need to reshoot to make this shitty jigsaw fit.
* You spend hundreds of millions of dollars to have shitty CGI and shoot the film multiple times rather than pay a fraction of that to western special effect studios.
 
* Pay hundreds of millions to DEI grift.
* Pay nothing to special effect studios until they decide it is actually cheaper to never work with you again despite being the largest media franchise corporation in the world.
* Outsource special effects to third world.
* They are so slow you actually make them start working two years before filming starts.
* Eventually the quality and direction is so shit you need to reshoot to make this shitty jigsaw fit.
* You spend hundreds of millions of dollars to have shitty CGI and shoot the film multiple times rather than pay a fraction of that to western special effect studios.
And then godzilla minus one blows your ass out of the water because they actually gave the animators the time and environment they needed to make the CGI look good.... for less then 15 million dollars.
 
So what are we predicting for this film's box office score?
I'm predicting around 300 million, so better than The Marvels, but still not enough to be a success due to how much they spent on re-shoots. It has basically no competition in February, but I still doubt anyone actually gives a shit about Anthony Mackie or the Falcon.
 
I'm predicting around 300 million, so better than The Marvels, but still not enough to be a success due to how much they spent on re-shoots. It has basically no competition in February, but I still doubt anyone actually gives a shit about Anthony Mackie or the Falcon.
Mackie is likable enough, but I don't think I've ever heard anyone hyped for one of his movies. It could go either way quality-wise and the reshoots basically confirm that it's going to be an uphill struggle to recoup development costs.
 
And then godzilla minus one blows your ass out of the water because they actually gave the animators the time and environment they needed to make the CGI look good.... for less then 15 million dollars.
SIGNIFICALLY LESS THAN 15 MILLION DOLLARS! Around 10 iirc. Also, I think they used the LotR method of getting a practical effects guy to help with CG realism. Plus, they have a lot of experience getting Godzilla 's look right over the decades.
 
I'm predicting around 300 million, so better than The Marvels, but still not enough to be a success due to how much they spent on re-shoots. It has basically no competition in February, but I still doubt anyone actually gives a shit about Anthony Mackie or the Falcon.
I actually dig Mackie but I think he hasn't had much to work with in terms of interesting villains after he became cap. At least not on a surface level, I didn't watch his show.

Normal guy. They tried to make it a bad thing when the *real* replacement Captain America took the super soldier formula, even though the ginger bitch villain and her gang had already taken it.
I remember my boomer dad was pissed because he didn't buy that he could be captain america without the serum.



Deadpool and wolverine will probably take home the bacon before everything crashes and burns. Im really wondering if it's going to be a self contained shitpost or if they'll actually tease some stuff like dr doom. Either way it looks fun.
 
Normal guy. They tried to make it a bad thing when the *real* replacement Captain America took the super soldier formula, even though the ginger bitch villain and her gang had already taken it.
that sounds so retarded. iirc sam wilson was trained ops using the falcon wings and not a specially trained one man terminator, jason bourne type solider. so sam is not even a tough out for 3rd tier cap villains like crossbones or batroc.

the whole point of captain america is that he is a super soldier. him wearing that star spangled suit draws attention of everyone and will target him. and that is the point because captain america can take on 30 guys in a fight.
 
that sounds so retarded. iirc sam wilson was trained ops using the falcon wings and not a specially trained one man terminator, jason bourne type solider. so sam is not even a tough out for 3rd tier cap villains like crossbones or batroc.

the whole point of captain america is that he is a super soldier. him wearing that star spangled suit draws attention of everyone and will target him. and that is the point because captain america can take on 30 guys in a fight.
Full agreement. Sam is a skilled soldier with some specialist skills (the wings) but at his best he reaches the levels of villains like Batroc the Leaper. No way should he be doing an "elevator scene" for example that Captain America is capable of.

One of the things I did like about early MCU is that they were decent about balancing people's power levels. Cap can't fight Hulk (yes, I know he did in one of the comics, shut up). Iron Man in full armour can hold his own against Thor for a bit but until the fight was stopped he looked like he was going to end up losing. And before Cap jumps in Maria Hill asks him "are you sure you want to get involved? These people are basically gods". Right up to and including Civil War they were still making the effort to try and keep it sensible. You had Spiderman who is super-overpowered running all over Sam Wilson and Bucky Barns despite the fact that Peter is a doofus who is trying to read Sam his Miranda rights whilst fighting him. In Infinity War you have the "Why was she up there all this time?" when Wanda is finally deployed and starts shredding the alien war machines.

But I think that will go out of the window even more so with Sam Wilson. There's always a pressure to (a) up the ante and (b) pander to fans of both heroes. It's like when you have a cross-over between series or franchies and the writers go out of their way to show both are equally valid and capable no matter how absurd the match-up should be. Whether that be Cap vs. Iron Man, Godzilla vs. Kong or anything else. Quite honestly the only example I can think of where writers in a cross-over didn't do that is the 2012 TMNT series. For real.

I hate when people don't respect knowledge boundaries as well. Stark is a brilliant engineer. Obviously he has a thorough grounding in physics but it should be Hank Pym who cracks time travel (given Reed is not introduced) rather than Stark.
 
What's the fucking point of getting Harrison Ford as Thunderbolt Ross if he doesn't have the mustache? Would've been better to bring Sam Elliott back.
Thunderbolt Ross is Betty's father, right? I.e. dad of the girl Bruce Banner is in love with? And Biden thinks his son's dating habits are a political headache.

So this is the third casting of the character? He was different in Civil War and he was different again in The Incredible Hulk if that counts as MCU. (Different again if we count Ang Lee's Hulk but I think people exclude that one). And didn't he have some cameo at the end of one of the Iron Man movies?
 
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