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Your Starter for 10 said:
Deadpool, Wolverine, Spidey...Dr. Strange is still around, right? And then they can pull Iron Man out of the grave.

Or they can just throw whatever chicks and niggers are on hand together because literally no one will give a shit or even bother to differentiate between them.
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All are straight White men, so they will not do that even though they're the ones with actual star power.
 
wtfNeedSignUp said:
It's kind of amazing how much the MCU stalled. Like we went from 3 films a year to one, and I wouldn't be surprised if most 2025 films will be delayed.
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No amount of delay is going to magically turn Black Cap: New World Order or Thunderbolts into good films.

The question is: when will they start cancelling already filmed movies for the tax write-off like Warner Bros.?
 
A literal century plus of vampire media and formula, decades of comics, three movies, an already established springboard into the monsters/occult side of the MCU…yet Blade of all things is too hard for Marvel to nail down. Is there just too much sunk cost for Marvel to just make a vampire-slaying film?
 
Commander X said:
A literal century plus of vampire media and formula, decades of comics, three movies, an already established springboard into the monsters/occult side of the MCU…yet Blade of all things is too hard for Marvel to nail down. Is there just too much sunk cost for Marvel to just make a vampire-slaying film?
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I think maybe, just maybe... they're trying to turn the ship around.

OK, hear me out before you give me my rainbow stickers.

It looks to me like they're really just trying to release the stuff they've made (Ironheart, Captain Falcon, Thunderbolts) just so they can fill out contractual obligations. I do think Feige realizes just how much the franchise has been fucked and is trying to hire new people, go back to the drawing board, and maybe get some of the old magic back. The problem being: it's not going to work.

Marvel has been completely Disneyfied now. The parent company's culture has fully taken over Marvel now. Much like other examples (Bioware), you may have some good product after a company is purchased by a bigger conglomerate but after a while, people leave or are let go. Bioware still released DA: Origins and ME2 after the EA purchase, for example. Eventually, the original people leave and the company is not the same anymore, and when the screws are being put to actually make games or movies that can sell... they can't do it. They've been stuck doing shit so long they don't know anything else to do.

Look at the recent Bioware failures. They're one bomb away from getting euthanized by Papa EA. They've demonstrated they can't do Mass Effect after Andromeda. They demonstrated they're unable to do original IP after Anthem. Now, they're well on their way to showing the world that they can't do Dragon Age. They know this is their last chance. The one game that has to succeed... and yet they can't do it. Because they're incapable of doing it.

And this is the conundrum Marvel finds itself in. They know all of their movies have bombed. The only one that performed was the one they don't even control and have to split winnings with Sony. Feige knows he's drawing the ire from the Eye of Iger, and yet he can't do it. He can't. Marvel is unable to do anything that isn't cringe, girlbosses, or cringy girlbosses. Blade is too hard for them to nail down, because basic competence has long since left and isn't showing up to save a sinking ship.
 
Commander X said:
A literal century plus of vampire media and formula, decades of comics, three movies, an already established springboard into the monsters/occult side of the MCU…yet Blade of all things is too hard for Marvel to nail down. Is there just too much sunk cost for Marvel to just make a vampire-slaying film?
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They really want to turn it into another shitty girlboss film about Blade's daughter. There has been a lot of back and forth between the executives and the lead actor, Mahershala Ali, since he actually wants the movie to be about Blade.
 
Mac Monster said:
They really want to turn it into another shitty girlboss film about Blade's daughter. There has been a lot of back and forth between the executives and the lead actor, Mahershala Ali, since he actually wants the movie to be about Blade.
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More & more, it seems like the actor made a devil deal to be a blade. best thing for him to do would be to walk away & get closer let the movie be blade daughter with blade dead in the intro.
 
At this point, I say just rerelease the Wesley Snipes Blade and say it's now MCU Canon. I'd feel bad for Ali, but this movie is clearly cursed - the MCU having a competency crisis is just adding to its woes.
 
Stab You in the Back said:
No amount of delay is going to magically turn Black Cap: New World Order or Thunderbolts into good films.
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Thunderbolts has to be near the bottom of things to clap for because you saw and recognized them. They don't have a Thunderbolts roster because they didn't put in the work to create one, so instead it's just going to be Zemo tard wrangling jobbers.
Commander X said:
A literal century plus of vampire media and formula, decades of comics, three movies, an already established springboard into the monsters/occult side of the MCU…yet Blade of all things is too hard for Marvel to nail down. Is there just too much sunk cost for Marvel to just make a vampire-slaying film?
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Well, there is the problem of trying to incorporate Blade's WoD-esque into the hairball that MCU continuity is at this point. In a world with Wakandans, Eternals, Egyptian gods, various mystic orders, and so on, how are vampires supposed to be a big deal, never mind the apocalyptic threat that all of these movies are obliged to featurchicken? And more importantly, how can they make it star a lame, gay black chick?
 
I think one of the problems with making a Blade film now is that it would have to be unabashedly cool, which to trope-aware industry writers is an explicit no-no. I think part of what we might being seeing here is the result of hack writers that just want to "trigger the nerds" getting their ideas tossed by people who actually want a Blade film to make money and also in part a situation with Disney kicking and screaming over the idea of an R rated Marvel flick that isn't Deadpool.
 
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They will produce bomb after bomb after bomb until they get rid of DEI trash. They still have too much money to feel the negative consequences of the DEI disaster they created.
 
Sinner's Sandwich said:
They will produce bomb after bomb after bomb until they get rid of DEI trash. They still have too much money to feel the negative consequences of the DEI disaster they created.
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"I'll let a thousand movies bomb before I stop pushing DEI slop!"

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MCU ended at Endgame. The writing was on the wall except for the hacks who want to beat a dead horse. Seriously, I don't see who's going to be the next big, recurring evil villain after Thanos in the current MCU phase.
 
crunchy bits are the best said:
MCU ended at Endgame. The writing was on the wall except for the hacks who want to beat a dead horse. Seriously, I don't see who's going to be the next big, recurring evil villain after Thanos in the current MCU phase.
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They're running up against the boundaries of what non-comics audiences will accept. They were very clever about it to begin with, starting small with Iron Man and his non-nanotech, non-appear from nowhere suit. We had scenes of him testing it in his facility and failures and though from a real-world perspective you could point out any number of engineering problems that were glossed over that wasn't the point - an audience could accept it. The Incredible Hulk snuck out next and we even got Iron Man 2 before Thor came out and introduced magic-lite ("I come from a place where [science and magic] are the same"). Captain America was introducing one small cosmic element (the tesseract) and some mildly more gonzo elements, like Red Skull's face but all within the acceptable envelope. The Avengers movie tied those elements together and had a lot of leeway by being such a big hype movie event.

From there we start our controlled descent of villains. Ultron... okay, you can work it. Ronin, Christopher Eccleston as a evil space elf... we're getting away with it. Exploding fire people in IM 3? You're scraping in. Ant Man skates by very successfully despite being one of the most comic book so far because gosh-darn it, it's a really fun movie and Paul Rudd is utterly likeable in it.

Thanos? Thanos is your last pass. You've used up the last Big Bad villain who isn't (a) Dr. Doom and (b) not some insanely weird and out there. Now you're into the realms of sentient planets, planet-sized celestials with funny helmets, Galactus, Goddesses of Death who are unfeasibly more powerful than their siblings... The whole "this isn't for kids" structure is collapsing. You had a good run convincing normal self-respecting adults to treat flying punching people seriously. Big bald purple guy was as far you can go. They ain't going to buy Galactus, they ain't going to buy Modok. The actor for the High Evolutionary gave it his all and I liked him, but you ain't going to make a recurring villain of him . You have Doom, that's it.
 
Calandrino said:
How long till it actually stops? For real?
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Never, Disney needs new content too much. I'm surprised they've pared back the new releases as much as they have, I was kinda expecting them to keep crapping shit out at the same pace and to just slash the budgets so they don't hemorrhage quite as much.
 
Commander X said:
I think one of the problems with making a Blade film now is that it would have to be unabashedly cool, which to trope-aware industry writers is an explicit no-no. I think part of what we might being seeing here is the result of hack writers that just want to "trigger the nerds" getting their ideas tossed by people who actually want a Blade film to make money and also in part a situation with Disney kicking and screaming over the idea of an R rated Marvel flick that isn't Deadpool.
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I'm blaming the fact that vampires have unironically been used by faggots as an allegory for gayness, and how people are evil for not letting them rape kids drink blood. So having a black guy going TVD is too spicy.
 
wtfNeedSignUp said:
I'm blaming the fact that vampires have unironically been used by faggots as an allegory for gayness, and how people are evil for not letting them rape kids drink blood. So having a black guy going TVD is too spicy.
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That and the original Blade movies (especially the first two) were very heavy on the violence, gore and action scenes, all things that Disney is trying to avoid like the plague. And it wasn't the same kind as Deadpool either, where it's played for laughs, but more where have scenes like him being ripped out of his dying mother as a baby and covered in gore, or the split mouth vampire kills in the second movie. Blade very much belongs in the world of gritty, adult orientated media, much like the Punisher, Daredevil etc.
 
Can't lie and say I didn't laugh a couple of times. Best joke however is at 1:14


This almost certainly going to be the best thing Marvel squeeze out this year. Disney must be wondering how many IP[s they can sell to recoup their losses.

My offer's £50 for Radioactive Man. Non-negotiable, you wait till later than 2025 it's going to be £25.
 
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