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Only now, huh?
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Mary the Goldsmith said:
I doubt he is a father, considering how childish his attitude seems to be from his comments, or maybe he is recently divorced and hence why he seems desperate to drag someone else on the mud.
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I could believe it. The 'geek dad' with a personality like sour milk that still thinks they're 20 but throws tantrums like they're 8 is an uncomfortably specific and increasingly common archetype of person I see.
 
The multiverse was the biggest issue. I can't believe somebody that has been working at Marvel for so long and presumably has knowledge of the comics is still unable to grasp the million problems that go into multiverse stories. Every multiverse event always results in an eventual convoluted mess that requires a reset, especially since you had so many writers doing their stories without editorial keeping rules, so eventually it became incoherent and everybody loses interest. It may have worked on the MCU with enough editorial guidance but just as they initiated the multiverse, Marvel decided to make dozens of productions simultaneously, leading to the same issues that plagues the comics.

It's like pottery.
 
SmugAutist said:
The multiverse was the biggest issue. I can't believe somebody that has been working at Marvel for so long and presumably has knowledge of the comics is still unable to grasp the million problems that go into multiverse stories. Every multiverse event always results in an eventual convoluted mess that requires a reset, especially since you had so many writers doing their stories without editorial keeping rules, so eventually it became incoherent and everybody loses interest. It may have worked on the MCU with enough editorial guidance but just as they initiated the multiverse, Marvel decided to make dozens of productions simultaneously, leading to the same issues that plagues the comics.

It's like pottery.
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Yup. Didn't even bother using Galactus first before resorting to multiverse shenanigans.
 
wtfNeedSignUp said:
That doesn't sound real, maybe he said he wants to wait for the box office first before any sequel pitch. But definitely not the career suppuko of "no more female led films", and definitely he didn't say it to some literal who. It sounds like some gayop to force the studio into a sequel.
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Doesn't sound impossible to me honestly, everyone hates "muh strong whamhen" even actresses have gone on record saying they roll their fucking eyes because of how bland and unlikable these characters are.

Makes sense disney would be looking for a way to drop them alltoogether without seeming sexist, and doing it in a roundabout way of "well it all depends on the marvels you" seems pretty plausible.

Disney is bleeding money like a stuck pig after the thirty different bombs in a row they've released + disney plus being unsustainable, they were bound to run out of money at one point.
 
Oilspill Battery said:
Doesn't sound impossible to me honestly, everyone hates "muh strong whamhen" even actresses have gone on record saying they roll their fucking eyes because of how bland and unlikable these characters are.

Makes sense disney would be looking for a way to drop them alltoogether without seeming sexist, and doing it in a roundabout way of "well it all depends on the marvels you" seems pretty plausible.

Disney is bleeding money like a stuck pig after the thirty different bombs in a row they've released + disney plus being unsustainable, they were bound to run out of money at one point.
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I still don't think Disney cares about money, they are in the state of "too big to fail" as well as being a massive propaganda branch of the USA government against its citizens and other countries.
 
wtfNeedSignUp said:
I still don't think Disney cares about money, they are in the state of "too big to fail" as well as being a massive propaganda branch of the USA government against its citizens and other countries.
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You can only lose so much money before you start caring. It was easy to not care about money 5 years ago, when you look at their catalogue and release out of their last 15 or so films like 12 have bombed ontop of disney+ still bleeding money it becomes a bit harder to justify wasting everything on propaganda.
 
Oilspill Battery said:
You can only lose so much money before you start caring. It was easy to not care about money 5 years ago, when you look at their catalogue and release out of their last 15 or so films like 12 have bombed ontop of disney+ still bleeding money it becomes a bit harder to justify wasting everything on propaganda.
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When it's not your money you're losing, when you and your tribesmen still getting compensated to an insane degree, when there are literally zero consequences for losing money (not even mild criticism from anyone "relevant"); when it is actually impossible to replace you in your job, then no, you can lose infinite money before you start caring. Or even noticing. At this point, it's both intentional and irreversible.
 
wtfNeedSignUp said:
I still don't think Disney cares about money, they are in the state of "too big to fail"
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In a recent investor call, they revealed they only had some millions in cash. Of course, that doesn't mean they're broke, they have a ton of money in their assets, which is why in the latest investor call, they revealed they now have a couple billions in cash... after firing a ton of people, cancelling some projects, and liquidating some properties.

They aren't too big to fail. They've got a lot of debt and not enough money on hand; and there's only so many people they can fire, so many projects they can cancel, and so many assets they can sell before they either don't have enough to work with, disappear completely, or are majority owned by someone else (which they actually kind of wanted, supposedly Iger was hoping for Apple to buy Disney and settle all their debts, but as it turns out, Apple only really wants to buy the sports channels).
 
wtfNeedSignUp said:
I still don't think Disney cares about money, they are in the state of "too big to fail" as well as being a massive propaganda branch of the USA government against its citizens and other countries.
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All they can worry about now is money with all the lawsuits and poor ratings going on. Look at all the talent they jettisoned at ESPN
 
Disney is not going broke any time soon. It's not that they're too big to fail, it's that their business has enough diverse assets that can compensate for other things, even when everything is going wrong. The thing with Disney is that they seem to be doing everything in their power to upend that system from its roots.

So right now they have the parks, which is their big money maker. Families go there because they have generational investment in Disney. Parents take their kids because their parents took their kids, and their parents took their kids, and their parents were there when Snow White and the Seven Dwarves hit the big screens in 37. This is something that took almost 100 years to foster... and now they seem to be doing everything in their power to destroy that by shunning their family audience for a bunch of sexless, childless radicals. While all of this is happening, that family audience is being slowly taken away by Universal and family friendly gaming companies like Nintendo, while the young male audience they wanted to get by buying Marvel and Lucasfilm is being stolen by Youtube and more mature video games.

Disney shouldn't be worried about going broke the next 5-10 years. They should be worried about it 20-30 years from now when the fringe lunatics they were courting die childless or run out of money to waste and the new generation doesn't give a fuck about them.
 
Nick Obre said:
In a recent investor call, they revealed they only had some millions in cash. Of course, that doesn't mean they're broke, they have a ton of money in their assets, which is why in the latest investor call, they revealed they now have a couple billions in cash... after firing a ton of people, cancelling some projects, and liquidating some properties.

They aren't too big to fail. They've got a lot of debt and not enough money on hand; and there's only so many people they can fire, so many projects they can cancel, and so many assets they can sell before they either don't have enough to work with, disappear completely, or are majority owned by someone else (which they actually kind of wanted, supposedly Iger was hoping for Apple to buy Disney and settle all their debts, but as it turns out, Apple only really wants to buy the sports channels).
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I meant it more as Disney will be saved by the USA government if it really approached a risk of bankruptcy, similar to banks and the Auto industry in 2008. Disney is just too valuable politically and economically to be thrown to the wolves, especially with the risk of other governments or wrongthinkers buying something important.

Like think about the evolution of capeshit, it started with very patriotic and libertarian angle, and slowly devolved into advocating for totalitarian nightmare of "trust the experts" and royalty dictating through the virtue of force.
 
Wrong demographic you're worried about, as it will be those life long Disney coonsuming boomers dying off that going to fuck the company over hard. As they're the ones still enjoyfully buying and consuming the latest Mouse shit.
 
Holy shit, I'm watching MauLer speaking about the last Ant Man film and it starts with the protagonist getting a struggle session from his family on daring to live a normal life after saving the world and reviving half the populace (he doesn't even have super powers to make the argument he can do anything meaningful), his daughter is genius Antifa, fighting minimum wage cops with billion dollar weapons for social justice, and there is now a plot point of the original Ant Man getting cucked.

I heard it was bad, but this is like a parody. Are modern super heroes even allowed to fight criminals?
 
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