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starborn427614 said:
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They've been hinting at reducing output, but it's basically confirmed now.
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THE PROBLEM IS NOT THE AMOUNT OF FILMS, BUT THE PEOPLE YOU HIRE TO MAKE THEM!

Disney is never going to learn. Its the same mentality as the retards who say "TV show [X] is only boring because its seasons are 13 episodes. If they were only ten episodes, that would fix everything!" Then suddenly TV shows are ten episodes and they still suck because the people making them are shit.
 
Stab You in the Back said:
THE PROBLEM IS NOT THE AMOUNT OF FILMS, BUT THE PEOPLE YOU HIRE TO MAKE THEM!

Disney is never going to learn. Its the same mentality as the retards who say "TV show [X] is only boring because its seasons are 13 episodes. If they were only ten episodes, that would fix everything!" Then suddenly TV shows are ten episodes and they still suck because the people making them are shit.
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They got rid of the dunce who wrote Quantumania before he had a chance to write Avengers 5, so they're learning. It's a glacially slow process, but still.
 
Stab You in the Back said:
THE PROBLEM IS NOT THE AMOUNT OF FILMS, BUT THE PEOPLE YOU HIRE TO MAKE THEM!

Disney is never going to learn. Its the same mentality as the retards who say "TV show [X] is only boring because its seasons are 13 episodes. If they were only ten episodes, that would fix everything!" Then suddenly TV shows are ten episodes and they still suck because the people making them are shit.
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I disagree, short of rebooting the MCU it's basically scorched earth. Almost none of the male heroes are still there. Too many important villains are dead. There is too much continuity for new people to pickup.

Heck, even if they had a based director there are basically no charismatic masculine men left in Hollywood to portray characters, and the film needs to be completely disconnected to the MCU plot for people to devote time for it (and that's if people won't assume the film requires watching every shit until now).
 
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Which one of you kiwis posted in the comment section of comicbookmovie.com? lmfao
 
Milkshake Sniffer said:
After the tremendous success of the box office colossi and critical darlings that were Madame Web and The Marvels it makes perfect sense for Sony to repeat that winning formula. Now do I need to make a PSN account to watch it?
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The difference here is that people actually LIKE Spider-Gwen (lord knows why, probably all the Rule34 of her). Nobody was clamoring for a Madame Web or Cap'n Marvel 2: BIPOC Boogaloo.
 
Beast From 20000 Faggums said:
The difference here is that people actually LIKE Spider-Gwen (lord knows why, probably all the Rule34 of her). Nobody was clamoring for a Madame Web or Cap'n Marvel 2: BIPOC Boogaloo.
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At least Madame Web kept the budget down to $80m. There's very little in the way of special effects - practical or CGI. It did technically make a profit. And you know Hollywood makes money even on the losses, it's just the investors who don't. The nearest MCU movie in budget was Antman at a 'paltry' $130m and that was before Money Printer went into overdrive. Homecoming was over double the budget of Madame Web. I mean, it showed, don't get me wrong.

I also have to give some credit to Dakota Johnson for being fairly open about what she thought of the film itself. She reportedly described some of the shooting as "psychotic". There's a rumour that her agent told her she was going to be part of the MCU.
 
Overly Serious said:
At least Madame Web kept the budget down to $80m. There's very little in the way of special effects - practical or CGI. It did technically make a profit.
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I very much doubt that. Sure the production budget was ~$80 mil (after tax breaks, before it was supposedly ~$100mi+) but that's not the only cost. The long term wisdom from those in the know has always been that if you take into account all the ancillary costs (marketing, distribution costs, theater splits, residuals, interest on financing etc ), then you need to make roughly 2x the production budget to break even.

Exactly how true that is for the mega budget $200mil+ shitshows Disney makes I'm not so sure, because I figure there's a diminishing return at some point for stuff like advertising spending, however I also suspect that when they do get these ridiculous budgets they're probably still underselling the costs using jewish accounting tricks, so I figure the 2x figure is still a resonable benchmark.

For something more normal costing like Madame Web the 2x figure almost certainly works fine. For instance the Wikipedia page claims they spent ~$60mil on advertising alone, which would line up well with an overall production budget of 80-100mil, before tax breaks. It's also why they likely still lost tens of millions, if not a hundred million dollars overall. Especially because it's such a bad film that it's unlikely to have any long term value on shit like streaming services.
 
Terrifik said:
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TWO scoops of the Spiderman cake yes queen
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Has there even been a single Sony Marvel movie that's been well received? At least since the first Amazing Spider-Man and only counting non-MCU and non-animated films? This need to pump out schlock in order to keep the rights might not fully poison the brand, but it's still not a good look. Also, I'm kind of glad that Insomniac's universe isn't using Gwen and is going with Cindy Moon/Silk instead. Gwen is massively overplayed at this point.
 
Doctor of Autism said:
At least its a movie with a Spider person whose actually popular.

Seriously why did Sony not just start with live action adaptations of other Spider-Men like 2099, Miles, Noir, and the like. Those probably would've been better than fucking Madame Web and Morbius, characters no one cares about.
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I want to say selling toys but I don't know if current day children actually buy toys. Pretty sure it's all Gen Xers in a midlife crisis.
Terrifik said:
say the meme Squidward: she, not the villain.

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Pretty sure the only way modern day audience can perceive a female as irredeemable is her being alluded to be racist.
 
Oh no, not Ralph. I hope he gets paid well. Poor bastard. I guess it will just be voice and face mocap so maybe he will get out of it unscathed.

While I actually like his casting as Galactus, it's just a shame to have such a good character actor associated with this pile of dogshit.
 
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