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Sounds like the definition of an feminist SJW who didn't understand the source material they were adopting. Also fuck her for changing Namor. Also I didn't even know Sam Raimi wanting to use Nightmare as a villain!
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Yeah, Rami wanted to use Nightmare as those that know Rami will know that he is a big Marvel fan and tries his best to stay true to the source material. He thought Nightmare would fit right in with MoM since Nightmare is one of Doctor Strange main villain's in the comics but Alonso told him no as she wanted the movie to be about Wanda, her crying over her make believe children, America Chavez and her two lesbian moms. Words can not describe want a dumb retard Alonso is.
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Glad the stupid cunt is gone but I think the cancer is so malignant at this point that pendulum swing will encourage their current top talent to just not sign again. The brand is so damaged that in 2025 most contracts will reach their end and here is the list.
Elisabeth Olsen - I am pretty sure she is gone, she has said she loved working with Paul Bettany but Bettany has said he is done and so is she most likely.
Mark Ruffalo - is absolutely out, they had to pay over for him to be in She hulk apparently.
Florence Pugh - Only signed for 5 appearances and is incredibly talented and wanted, she's out.
Chris Hemsworth - 100% out, said he wants time with family and pretty much retire due to potential health issues.
Cumberbatch - 100% out, in interviews he appeared done and was clearly not happy with how DS2 ended.
Letitia Wright - I think she is out too, good actress but done will explain. Allegedly not happy at all with the direction of the film as they were going to make her Ironheart originally. Did not want a BP2 but was pretty much forced into it.
Lupita Nyong'o - The reason why, so Lupitah was really hard to get in as she nearly did not sign, she expressed being on set due to Boseman's passing was difficult and Angela Basset was a rock like Wright was skeptical of the need for a second film. She is a frigging good actress too and criminally underused like Pugh.
Reyner - I don't even need to say lol
Larson - I am convinced they are going to kill her off, the backstage drama with her is great because everyone fucking hated her.
Cheedle - Probably out they have screwed him over loads.
Hiddlestone - I think he will ask for a raise but he will leave because I think he will get work very fast.
Paul Rudd - is being killed off, you can tell
Holland - He is staying for 3 more films according to Feige
Mackie - I think he is out come end of Avengers 6
These are but a few but the major contracts are coming to an end and the current model is unsustainable.
Elisabeth Olsen - I am pretty sure she is gone, she has said she loved working with Paul Bettany but Bettany has said he is done and so is she most likely.
Mark Ruffalo - is absolutely out, they had to pay over for him to be in She hulk apparently.
Florence Pugh - Only signed for 5 appearances and is incredibly talented and wanted, she's out.
Chris Hemsworth - 100% out, said he wants time with family and pretty much retire due to potential health issues.
Cumberbatch - 100% out, in interviews he appeared done and was clearly not happy with how DS2 ended.
Letitia Wright - I think she is out too, good actress but done will explain. Allegedly not happy at all with the direction of the film as they were going to make her Ironheart originally. Did not want a BP2 but was pretty much forced into it.
Lupita Nyong'o - The reason why, so Lupitah was really hard to get in as she nearly did not sign, she expressed being on set due to Boseman's passing was difficult and Angela Basset was a rock like Wright was skeptical of the need for a second film. She is a frigging good actress too and criminally underused like Pugh.
Reyner - I don't even need to say lol
Larson - I am convinced they are going to kill her off, the backstage drama with her is great because everyone fucking hated her.
Cheedle - Probably out they have screwed him over loads.
Hiddlestone - I think he will ask for a raise but he will leave because I think he will get work very fast.
Paul Rudd - is being killed off, you can tell
Holland - He is staying for 3 more films according to Feige
Mackie - I think he is out come end of Avengers 6
These are but a few but the major contracts are coming to an end and the current model is unsustainable.
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That's something I notice lately marvel hasn't been using much of the established villains from the comics in their movies. I believe Raimi has a true marvel fan since you would have to be to know who Nightmare is. From that and the spiderman movies it's clear he likes to use as many comic characters as possible in the movies. Sucks that he couldn't do it for Dr. Strange. Man this woman really didn't get what the hell she was adapting.
Also Nightmare fits home with Raimi too. Since Nightmare is very similar to the villains of the evil Dead movies.
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No, she knows but like most feminist woke activists hates what she is adapting and wanted to turn Marvel into something it is not. Like Kathleen Kennedy with Star Wars she wanted to turn Marvel into a "girl brand". She actively hates the male audience for Marvel, especially the young boys, and wanted to turn Marvel into a brand for girls and a means to "empower" them. Like most feminist woke activist she believed that shoving in a bunch of empowered, female characters who are super smart and don't need no man would attract young girls to the Marvel brand. Problem is that most girls don't really like super hero stuff. Maybe it is just from my experience as an aunt but young girls don't really like comic book stuff.
Even with characters made to pander to girls like Wonder Woman is minuscule to that of boys who are fans of characters like Spider-Man or Batman. I mean, the merch sales don't lie. The likes of Alonso can try as much as she can but little girls will always choose a Disney Princess Barbie doll over a Miss Marvel doll.
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Again Hemsworth is only retiring from Thor because he was told that cycling on and off tren every year will nuke his heart. That man is NOT natty.
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Nightmare would have made a fuckton more sense to be in Strange 2
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That is because Rami had a script that had Nightmare in it but Alonso forced him to change it so it will be about Wanda and her trauma. From what is coming out about Alonso is that she was a tyrant that would force writers to change scripts until they were to her liking. I'll like to point out that she said that her turning Marvel into a girl brand would double Marvel's profits. Instead she ended up destroying Marvel's profit margins. She was deluded as all fuck.
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seems like you could have just done "wanda is trauming and nightmare is making it worse to use her"
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But that would have taken power and agency away from Wanda and we can't have that in modern Disney. Instead she needs to be a badass "girl boss" who is in total control and isn't being used by a man. Goddamn I hate modern Disney so much.
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So she was in control when she killed a bunch of people and tried to kill a teenage girl? Is that girl boss?
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I don't disagree, but I think that saying she was behind the wokeness is misleading. Sure, she was one hell of an activist but so is the rest of the company. For instance, she barely had anything to do with the Disney+ shows and yet that is where the writing has been the wokest. She'll be gone, but there will be another that will take her place and continue the same trajectory. Just look at all of the Rick & Morty writers Feige decided to bring in for Phase 4. I think the main reason she was fired was not because she was woke, but because she burned too many bridges with VFX teams.
Nothing will change.
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Girls like comic heroes if it has something designed for women in it. Honestly, I feel like I have run into more female fans of Batman and Teen Titans IRL than male. My sister has mass binged like every DC show and movie that has Knightwing in it, and she used to binge the CW Arrowverse.
The difference between Batman/Titans and Wonder Woman is that they play to the things girls like. Batman has the whole true-crime/goth angle with big eccentric foes. He has the hot romance with Catwoman. Finally, he has the Bat-Dad shtick, which really seems to be the biggest grab for girls as they like seeing the loner dad take care of his bratty 10-year old with a sword. Then you have Teen Titans, which is literally just a CW Teen drama with a capeshit filter, which can also be said for the CW Arrowverse. It is just a lot of relationships and young people dealing with trauma and bad parents, and everything else you can name. Shipper galore for these properties.
Marvel is failing in the same way as WW, in that in making her a strong, independent female, no women gives a shit. If WW had more relationship shit with Steve, and a bunch of teens she has to deal with to make her Wonder-mom, then women would probably care. As is, women really get into Batman, Spider-Man, the Flash, and Teen Titans because they are the only ones that figured out how to do relationship/family drama shtick.
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Can't seem to quote you for some reason. Bettany is currently doing the Vision series and Olsen's been pretty vocal about Wanda lately IIRC, I don't think either of them will be leaving within the next year or two.
Can't seem to quote you for some reason. Bettany is currently doing the Vision series and Olsen's been pretty vocal about Wanda lately IIRC, I don't think either of them will be leaving within the next year or two.
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In their mind, yes. But it's okay because she was going through trauma so it was alright for her do all that stuff. There is a really sick twisted morality that Hollywood writers have today in regards to the morality of female character's.
If there is one thing that DC is good at it is appealing to girls and young women. Women love romance, they love true crime, they love drama, they love the family angle and of course the shipping. Marvel doesn't have that and instead of seeing and learning what women like they instead try to tell women that their feminist power fantasies are what they should like. This is something that I've noticed with a lot of Disney stuff now is that they are taking the romance out of their entertainment and telling girls "You don't need a man. Love will hold you back from being your true self".
What many of these loveless, childless cat ladies who now plague Disney will never understand is that most women and girls love romance. They want to be desired and get the hot guy in the end. There is a reason why the best selling books out there are romance books targeted at young women. Instead Disney wants to change female nature and as we all know nature always wins in the end.
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Even past the family stuff, DC is really good at creating female aesthetics. Raven clearly became an icon for goth girls to dress as thanks to her amazing design. Then do I even need to mention the sex symbols that Batman’s three females have become. Harley Quinn and Ivy are loved for their designs of crazy clown girl and Mother Nature, and Catwoman used to be pretty popular, specifically the Burton one. Even the male figures, there are plenty of women who take to Joker and surprisingly Riddler.
In comparison, Marvel just has Spider-Man that really fits any relationship/family dynamic, or has really popular female designs (Spider-Gwen/Black Cat). Granted, Spider-Man is probably the most popular, but it is crazy how Marvel never was able to create another.
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didn't the guy behind Fox TV Spiderman cartoon explicitly cite novellas for his storytelling inspiration?
but yeah Marvel can do soap opera shit as good as anybody else
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It is funny watching Marvel try to appeal to women and girls with characters like She-Hulk and Ant-Mans daughter as every single video I've seen on YouTube from female nerd channels are of women going; "Oh my God! This bitch is so insufferable. Can someone please smack some sense into her." Marvel seems to think that insufferable = empowered. This might have to do with the fact that many of these female characters are just self-inserts for the likes of Alonso and Gao. If these bitches weren't so deluded and up their own asses they would see that women hate, and I really do mean HATE, women who are ungrateful, bitchy, passive aggressive, snide, self pitying, domineering, know it all, and man hating. BookTube, which is pretty female dominated, always makes fun of these types of female characters and talks about unlikable and unappealing they are. It is funny to see that it is women who are the ones who are the most out of touch with what women want in entertainment.
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Will Carol take the fight from an empty, open landscape INTO the town full of civilians?
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Possible. However, unlike MoS, it'll probably be on purpose by Carol for some retarded reason, instead of collateral damage being a result of a heat of battle, due to 2 titans fighting, with actual reasoning to HOW they got to the town.
Marvels will either have it due to literal incompetence on Carol's part, or due to some ending the "wrongthinkers" with some "2 Birds, 1 Stone" bullshit. MCU is woke enough to make wrongthink aliens a thing, just for the sake of doing it.
That, or they'll just rip-off the fights again, while lacking the soul & beauty of the OG. Just like they did in Wandavision.