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Shang-Chi was a decent film, it's issues mainly come with the third act when they up the cgi, especially with the dragons when it would've been better to end it off with the Mandarin fight.
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And copious flashbacks that serve no narrative purpose except to establish that a guy missed his dead wife. Shang Chi would have been a much better movie if they cut out all the flashbacks and added more scenes developing the sister in the present.
"Show, don't tell" has become a curse in the mouths of amateur filmmakers. Nobody should waste fifteen minutes of running time on irrelevant backstory when it can be established with a single line of dialogue.
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Yea, DC/Warner Bros. expected fucking Man of Steel and BvS to break a billion, which was a completely misguided and mistaken goal. Not even the MCU had that high of an expectation when they started.
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It didn't help Warner Bros just never had a plan for a cinematic universe until after Man of Steel, and even attempted to make the DCEU Batman just the Batman from Nolan's Trilogy which Christian Bale thankfully declined.
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I wish newer Marvel movies would let their protagonists be protagonists instead of sidelining them to develop other characters. Like Black Widow, Shang Chi to some extent and now Doctor Strange. Wanda was probably shoehorned into the latter film to "atone" the fact that she never had a solo film. And I bet Thor 4 is going to sideline Thor in favour of his supporting cast (i.e - Lady Thor).
I think they were attempting to go a solo film root, had Green Lantern (2011) been a success.
I think WB was always trying to a reverse Marvel approach. In the late 2000s, before the writers strike, they were going to make Justice League: Mortal with George Miller. Then I believe that would've branched-off into other solo films (i.e - movies with Wonder Woman and Green Lantern). From what I hear of the script and what's been revealed, it seems far better than the Justice League we got.
Batman V Superman would've made over a billion if it was well received by audiences. The hype was there. It opened to over 400M worldwide and had an opening day of 80M in the North American box office. Those were numbers comparable to the first two Avengers movies. The problem was, Zack Snyder was one of the key figures in their cinematic universe. Even Suicide Squad had a massive 65M opening day and Aquaman made over a billion. Unlike Marvel before the MCU, DC arguably had more brand recognition, so I don't think it was necessary to give everyone a solo film before teaming everyone up.
I think they were attempting to go a solo film root, had Green Lantern (2011) been a success.
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Shang chi was decent? Hug now I've seen everything... But can anyone give me an honest opinion on multiverse of madness? All I've heard from it so far is geeks and gamers angry rants about how "it's woke so that's why it's box office is plummeting."
But is it really? I get Sammy boy isn't the spring chicken he used to be still...
But is it really? I get Sammy boy isn't the spring chicken he used to be still...
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"The left can't meme" applies to filmmaking as well. Want to show a man misses his dead wife? wolverine-touches-photo.jpg
Consider the screenshot that dropped today and weep. I'll watch it for a laugh.
They should just go full Kingdom Come. Honestly they have so many alternate angles to explore on their heroes it is genuinely mystifying why they don't do it. Joker was very fresh but it wasn't even based on a story. Marvel sort of locked themselves into a formula but WB can do whatever at this point since people have given up hope of a DC universe.
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I disagree on Strange since he was the main focus of his movie, it's just that the discourse is more about Wanda since it's a more controversial choice especially with Wandavision.
That's true for that, like there is hype for DC, it's just Warner Brothers did not care about the quality and the portrayals really don't work as a competitor with Superman being a Christ figure who hates saving people while Batman is a murderous retarded psychopath who would murder random thugs but never the A-List villains. Like DC would have more brand recognition cause outside of the Spider-Man and X-Men, most of Marvel's Heroes were pretty B tier while DC had more recognizable heroes, it's just that the DC films were overseen by Zack Snyder who has the mentality of a 15 year old redditor trying to be edgy.
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Wanda was the villian focus, if anything its better than most where the villian is some literally who. Dr. Strange was the hero focus, it didn't feel like he was getting cut out of his movie to me.
If anything, the one snubbed was America. She's basically just a brattier, "woke" Peter Parker used to start the plot. Which is fine, since she's mostly out of the way.
If anything, the one snubbed was America. She's basically just a brattier, "woke" Peter Parker used to start the plot. Which is fine, since she's mostly out of the way.
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This is Thor love and thunder?
Ragnarok can't come soon enough.... The real Ragnarok the age of ice and fury that heralds the end of time as we know it.
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It's not really Znyder as much as it's WB itself. They fucked over Zack's shit a lot, even in movies where he's doing a side-work like 1st Wonder Woman, he gets fucked over. Hell, there's a reason that most always recommend the Ultimate Editon of BvS instead of the Theatrical Cut that's everywhere, & that's something that's even before Josstice League was even a thing. The theatrical version cuts a lot.
Why does Tessa kinda look like a rip-off Rihanna?
They are doing exactly that, Peacemaker is great example of it. Issue is, there are still issues with it. Peacemaker again being a good example of that too, because Gunn couldn't decide which mindset he wants to make it with.
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Strange may be the hero, but he's not the protagonist. He doesn't drive the plot, but is rather pushed along by it. He's not clever. He's not consistent in his strength or goals. It's a movie that happens to him.
I do appreciate that the plot of the film was "childless white woman tries to steal America's power to make up for lack of family, but doing so would destroy every possible world." It's like a metaphor.
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Shang Chi could have been a decent film, with the talent involved - the late Brad Allen, a veteran action director who'd been the first non-Asian on the Jackie Chan Stunt Team, as well as performers like Tony Leung, Michelle Yeoh, Yuen Wah, and in the role of "Death Dealer" Andy Le of the self-trained troupe Martial Club (the Martial Club guys choreographed and performed in the Michelle Yeoh vehicle Everything Everywhere All At Once and their work, including their various Youtube short films should be checked out) but like with that GI Joe film focusing on Snake Eyes, they brought a lot of stunt talent and performers together and then chopped up everything with pedestrian direction and bad editing and in Shang Chi's case smothered everything in a thick layer of CGI.
The final part of the film seems to take cues from wuxia movies in general and those with fantasy elements in the vein of A Chinese Ghost Story and Zu Warriors of the Mystic Mountain but lacks what made these sort of movies special. It certainly fails at successfully being inspired by them.
The final part of the film seems to take cues from wuxia movies in general and those with fantasy elements in the vein of A Chinese Ghost Story and Zu Warriors of the Mystic Mountain but lacks what made these sort of movies special. It certainly fails at successfully being inspired by them.
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I've heard the MCU was willing to bend its source materials and this is a case of it. The way Endgame and Thor 3 are built, it would have made more sense to make Valkyrie into Lady Thor. Sure, it takes away from the specialness of being chosen by Mjolnir, but Tessa Thomson is more suited for that kind of action-heavy, tough girl kind of role. Natalie Portman just isn't built to be burly.
DC never really understood Synder's previous work. When his best movie is Watchmen, they should have known that his movies were going to be dark, drab action movies. I might have said this before, but he's the strawman I would use to describe Gen X filmmaking; needlessly grim-dark, obsessed with moral greyness, and cynical about people's motivations. In Supes's case, he keeps insisting that he has Doc Manhattan motivations where the only reason he cares at all is because his love interest insists upon caring. Batman ends up (understandably) acting like Rorschach, but with exactly the wrong tone attached. "Murder is cool" is not even the point of Rorschach and when it's applied to Batman, he ends up looking like a giant weirdo that would NOT be the driving force towards building a Justice League. He'd only used that list of Metahumans to plot ways to kill them, not gather them together.
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Good lord. The next installment in the MCWU. Any chance it will be watchable?
Ah, well, at least we'll have 87000 more YouTube videos from goony beard men autists screeching about how much better the comic in 1993 was or something.
Ah, well, at least we'll have 87000 more YouTube videos from goony beard men autists screeching about how much better the comic in 1993 was or something.
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Wow, this looks like a parody. An actual parody.
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I enjoyed her playing the clones in Orphan Black, we'll see if she's given anything decent to work with.
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She-Hulk has always been a "lighter" character so a comedy route isn't a bad thing except nobody in Hollywood can write good comedy so there's no chance at all. Should've been done as a movie so they could trim the fat. Also the actress should've been more attractive but that's just nitpicking. If she's good, she's good. But the material doesn't look good.
And once again Mark Ruffalo gets shafted. Always a co-star, never a star.
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She-Hulk looks like she was lifted from a PS3 game lmao. I can't wait for another #girlboss show, where the women are all cool and good, and the men are all dumb and bad. "Oh yeah, you'll Hulk out due to fear and anger." "That's just the natural state of being a woman." Brilliant, truly. Wow, give this show every Emmy. This show, in an effort to combat sexism, is only serving to make me more sexist