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Oh Ok Yeah That's Cool said:
Skylar Page iirc is bi-polar or has schizophrenia or both and he wasn't on his meds. The whole debacle was really sad when it came to light because everyone conveniently ignored he had legitimate mental problems and went straight to white male pervert syndrome and turned on him fast. Last i checked he was in a mental hospital and Clarence ended a month or so ago.
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Clarence is still going. Just he's been fired from doing any work on it. With all his writers and storyboard directors still doing work on the show.

That was CN's answer to "Fuck the straight white male despite his mental illness." And threw his work under the bus. There's a Clarence 'special' due out tomorrow I believe and a few new episodes due this summer.
 
Star Galatics said:
Clarence is still going. Just he's been fired from doing any work on it. With all his writers and storyboard directors still doing work on the show.

That was CN's answer to "Fuck the straight white male despite his mental illness." And threw his work under the bus. There's a Clarence 'special' due out tomorrow I believe and a few new episodes due this summer.
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Skyler also voiced Clarence when he worked on the show. After he got fired, they replaced him with another guy to voice the character.
 
Kaabi said:
Skyler also voiced Clarence when he worked on the show. After he got fired, they replaced him with another guy to voice the character.
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(:_( Fuck I forgot about that part. Yeah, that's another part that's pretty sad. It's the same thing if Rebecca Sugar got fired for Shipping or whatever on Steven Universe. There would literally be no song work on the show anymore. That's pretty much comparatively what happened to Clarence.
 
Ilikeoreos said:
http://www.michaelbarrier.com/Essays/Milt_Gray/Gray_on_Clampett.htm

I'm not sure whether or not this article is biased, but it sheds some light on Chuck Jone's egotism and how he supposedly started a lot of the rumors about Clampett.
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The letter Barrier mentions can be found here:

http://www.lettersofnote.com/2009/10/unadulterated-hogwash.html

You can see there's no personal accusations against Clampett. He's talking about an interview Clampett gave with Barrier, which - as you'll see - contained a shit-ton of half-truths.

Chuck Jones had a reputation for having grudges and keeping them, true, but Bob Clampett was no saint.

(Not to mention that Bob Clampett partisans, needless to say, will knock Chuck Jones. There are many, and John K. isn't the only one.)
 
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Steamboat_Bill said:
The letter Barrier mentions can be found here:

http://www.lettersofnote.com/2009/10/unadulterated-hogwash.html

You can see there's no personal accusations against Clampett. He's talking about an interview Clampett gave with Barrier, which - as you'll see - contained a shit-ton of half-truths.

Chuck Jones had a reputation for having grudges and keeping them, true, but Bob Clampett was no saint.

(Not to mention that Bob Clampett partisans, needless to say, will knock Chuck Jones. There are many, and John K. isn't the only one.)
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Even with the questionable things they've said, I still have a ton of respect towards Bob Clampett and Chuck Jones, which is more than I can say about John K.
(Please let me keep at least Friz Freleng and Robert Mckimson as idols.)
 
NARPASSWORD said:
Even with the questionable things they've said, I still have a ton of respect towards Bob Clampett and Chuck Jones, which is more than I can say about John K.
(Please let me keep at least Friz Freleng and Robert Mckimson as idols.)
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Nothing I can really say I've heard about Freleng and McKimson, honestly, so you're fine for now.
 
Freleng and Mckimson always seemed to be the most normal ones of the bunch. But the same can't be said for some of the more obscure directors from the studios early years. Tom Palmer was said to be the Ed Wood of 1930's animation and was personally fired by Jack Warner after his first two shorts were finished. Earl Duvall was supposedly fired for getting into a drunken fistfight with Leon Schlesinger. And whatever it was that caused Hugh Harmon to leave WB was apparently so dramatic that Schlesinger would blow his top whenever someone merely mentioned his name (and the f-bomb that Bosko drops in his final short was supposedly a parting shot at him)
 
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Ilikeoreos said:
Freleng and Mckimson always seemed to be the most normal ones of the bunch. But the same can't be said for some of the more obscure directors from the studios early years. Tom Palmer was said to be the Ed Wood of 1930's animation and was personally fired by Jack Warner after his first two shorts were finished. Earl Duvall was supposedly fired for getting into a drunken fistfight with Leon Schlesinger. And whatever it was the caused Hugh Harmon to leave WB was apparently so dramatic that Schlesinger would blow his top whenever someone merely mentioned his name (and the f-bomb that Bosko drops in his final short was supposedly a parting shot at him)
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Tom Palmer arguably was the Ed Wood of 1930s animation. Supposedly his first cartoon, "Buddy's Day Out," had to be extensively reworked by Friz Freleng because the original version of the film was devoid of comedy - supposedly, at story meetings, Palmer suggested places where something funny should go, and never specified what the gag would be. And the finished film isn't any better. (If you remember the Animaniacs episode with Buddy, his portrayal in that episode isn't too far off from the real thing.)

Apparently Harman and Ising left the WB and went to MGM over budget disputes with Schlesinger. They wanted to make color cartoons; Schlesinger was cheap and said no. A year later, however, the WB started making color cartoons anyway.
 
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Steamboat_Bill said:
Tom Palmer arguably was the Ed Wood of 1930s animation. Supposedly his first cartoon, "Buddy's Day Out," had to be extensively reworked by Friz Freleng because the original version of the film was devoid of comedy - supposedly, at story meetings, Palmer suggested places where something funny should go, and never specified what the gag would be. And the finished film isn't any better. (If you remember the Animaniacs episode with Buddy, his portrayal in that episode isn't too far off from the real thing.)

Apparently Harman and Ising left the WB and went to MGM over budget disputes with Schlesinger. They wanted to make color cartoons; Schlesinger was cheap and said no. A year later, however, the WB started making color cartoons anyway.
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Fuck, I actually watched one of those Buddy shorts today, and it was BORING. That Animaniacs episode you mentioned is probably the only good thing to come out of these.
 
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Fuck, I actually watched one of those Buddy shorts today, and it was BORING. That Animaniacs episode you mentioned is probably the only good thing to come out of these.
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That and the fact that they paved the way for the classic Porky Pig shorts. You can still see some of the seeds being planted in some of the less boring ones at times. But yeah, Buddy was a terrible character, his creators (Palmer and Duvall in particular) were the laughingstocks of the industry, and WB was just incredibly lucky that Freleng was able to come up with a character that actually made their style of humor work a few years later.

Somewhat off-topic, but since we're on the subject of WB shorts that are considered the worst ever, I don't think that See Ya Later Gladiator is anywhere near as bad as a lot of people say it is. The worst Daffy/Speedy shorts were ones like Well Worn Daffy where they really should have used Sylvester instead.
 
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