Science Let's Declare a Pandemic Amnesty - [LOL] We need to forgive one another for what we did and said when we were in the dark about COVID.

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In April 2020, with nothing else to do, my family took an enormous number of hikes. We all wore cloth masks that I had made myself. We had a family hand signal, which the person in the front would use if someone was approaching on the trail and we needed to put on our masks. Once, when another child got too close to my then-4-year-old son on a bridge, he yelled at her “SOCIAL DISTANCING!”

These precautions were totally misguided. In April 2020, no one got the coronavirus from passing someone else hiking. Outdoor transmission was vanishingly rare. Our cloth masks made out of old bandanas wouldn’t have done anything, anyway. But the thing is: We didn’t know.

I have been reflecting on this lack of knowledge thanks to a class I’m co-teaching at Brown University on COVID. We’ve spent several lectures reliving the first year of the pandemic, discussing the many important choices we had to make under conditions of tremendous uncertainty.

Some of these choices turned out better than others. To take an example close to my own work, there is an emerging (if not universal) consensus that schools in the U.S. were closed for too long: The health risks of in-school spread were relatively low, whereas the costs to students’ well-being and educational progress were high. The latest figures on learning loss are alarming. But in spring and summer 2020, we had only glimmers of information. Reasonable people—people who cared about children and teachers—advocated on both sides of the reopening debate.

Another example: When the vaccines came out, we lacked definitive data on the relative efficacies of the Johnson & Johnson shot versus the mRNA options from Pfizer and Moderna. The mRNA vaccines have won out. But at the time, many people in public health were either neutral or expressed a J&J preference. This misstep wasn’t nefarious. It was the result of uncertainty.

Obviously some people intended to mislead and made wildly irresponsible claims. Remember when the public-health community had to spend a lot of time and resources urging Americans not to inject themselves with bleach? That was bad. Misinformation was, and remains, a huge problem. But most errors were made by people who were working in earnest for the good of society.

Given the amount of uncertainty, almost every position was taken on every topic. And on every topic, someone was eventually proved right, and someone else was proved wrong. In some instances, the right people were right for the wrong reasons. In other instances, they had a prescient understanding of the available information.

The people who got it right, for whatever reason, may want to gloat. Those who got it wrong, for whatever reason, may feel defensive and retrench into a position that doesn’t accord with the facts. All of this gloating and defensiveness continues to gobble up a lot of social energy and to drive the culture wars, especially on the internet. These discussions are heated, unpleasant and, ultimately, unproductive. In the face of so much uncertainty, getting something right had a hefty element of luck. And, similarly, getting something wrong wasn’t a moral failing. Treating pandemic choices as a scorecard on which some people racked up more points than others is preventing us from moving forward.

We have to put these fights aside and declare a pandemic amnesty. We can leave out the willful purveyors of actual misinformation while forgiving the hard calls that people had no choice but to make with imperfect knowledge. Los Angeles County closed its beaches in summer 2020. Ex post facto, this makes no more sense than my family’s masked hiking trips. But we need to learn from our mistakes and then let them go. We need to forgive the attacks, too. Because I thought schools should reopen and argued that kids as a group were not at high risk, I was called a “teacher killer” and a “génocidaire.” It wasn’t pleasant, but feelings were high. And I certainly don’t need to dissect and rehash that time for the rest of my days.

Moving on is crucial now, because the pandemic created many problems that we still need to solve.

Student test scores have shown historic declines, more so in math than in reading, and more so for students who were disadvantaged at the start. We need to collect data, experiment, and invest. Is high-dosage tutoring more or less cost-effective than extended school years? Why have some states recovered faster than others? We should focus on questions like these, because answering them is how we will help our children recover.

Many people have neglected their health care over the past several years. Notably, routine vaccination rates for children (for measles, pertussis, etc.) are way down. Rather than debating the role that messaging about COVID vaccines had in this decline, we need to put all our energy into bringing these rates back up. Pediatricians and public-health officials will need to work together on community outreach, and politicians will need to consider school mandates.

The standard saying is that those who forget history are doomed to repeat it. But dwelling on the mistakes of history can lead to a repetitive doom loop as well. Let’s acknowledge that we made complicated choices in the face of deep uncertainty, and then try to work together to build back and move forward.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/10/covid-response-forgiveness/671879/ (Archive)
 
Reading all of these posts on here is both heartbreaking and hilarious, at the same time. As someone that was vaccinated, I actually take the side of people who were steadfast into not wanting to take a vaccine that they chose for their own health or religious reasons. People have different bodies for a reason.

I feel for the people who lost jobs and/or family members due to an unsightly and absurd government overreach regarding forcing people to take vaccines and masks for something that was proven to not be effective into stopping the transmission of the virus.

Either way, this article is just another example of dancing on the graves of people that had the right to still be skeptical of something that doesn’t seem to be as egregious as say the common cold or the flu.
 
Mild inconvenience over a dumb fucking useless dress code is nowhere near the level of shit as supporting gulags and camps where people got culled en masse, those two things aren't even remotely similar lmao.
I live in Australia. We built gulags for Coof. We beat people and forced masks on them. We locked down the country for months and months with 5km travel distance allowances.

I beg to differ about your "mild inconvenience". There is no forgiving or forgetting.
 
The saddest part is there could be an identical pandemic tomorrow and the same people asking for forgiveness for ruining literally everyone on the planet's lives for 2 and a half years and dismissing people who turned out being right as "anti science bigots" would make the exact same decisions again because they didn't actually learn anything.

They're just saying this to cover their ass and not face consequences for their heinous actions.
The truth is now they know how far they can take it, and they're excited to do it again.
They're not really apologizing, they're telling us what they're doing because they know we're powerless to stop them.
 
I for one am prepared to forgive them... once I see ALL of them completely dispossessed and being forced to work in 14 hour shift bauxite mines until their pathetic bodies can't stand their horrid work conditions anymore, after which their corpses will be turned into biomass that will be used as fertilizer.
 
We live in extraordinary times when thanks to the 24/7 tracking done by megacorps we can know exactly who said what during the lockdowns.

No need for a witch hunt nor an unruly mob going around lynching people at random, we have the names and metadata of every lockdown shill that made a hobby off harassing others for social clout.

We also got the names of every "advisor" from those days, including the names and signatures of all the "scientists" that said that going outside and participating in the totally-grassroots-not-at-all-engineered 2020 riots somehow didn't spread covid.

And now everybody gets to pay.
 
I lost the latter half of my 20's thanks to these two years of bullshit. I'll forgive you when you give me that back.
 
I lost the latter half of my 20's thanks to these two years of bullshit. I'll forgive you when you give me that back.
For me it was the first half.
To try and calm myself, I've rationalised that from March 2020 until idk, March 2022?, the clocks were metaphorically "stopped".

I can't be completely mad that I've lost a good chunk of what many older people consider to be the best years of your life when there are young teens and children who haven't spent enough years in "normal" society to know that what happened wasn't normal, and will never be normal. And they will be feeling these effects for months, years, maybe even the rest of their life. The psychological impact that the Covidian Insurgency wrought in terms of isolating oneself from the outside world, your family and acquaintances, being stranded in strange lands to the point you will have completely forgotten the concept of "home", and constant fearmongering from the news is likely understated, and we won't know the full extent until the 2030s once these people have started to grow up.
 
i'm introverted so I lost nothing, haha!

You have my condolences though. I know a lot of people who were anxious as fuck through the entire thing because of what happened to the job market. Also, the batshit insane way it was handled. Sent the economy into the toilet too. Fucking horrible two years.
 
i'm introverted so I lost nothing, haha!

You have my condolences though. I know a lot of people who were anxious as fuck through the entire thing because of what happened to the job market. Also, the batshit insane way it was handled. Sent the economy into the toilet too. Fucking horrible two years.
I'm an extravert so being locked inside for two years really fucking sucked. I lost all progress on my weight loss because the gym was vaxx only and I refused to take the retard juice.
For me it was the first half.
To try and calm myself, I've rationalised that from March 2020 until idk, March 2022?, the clocks were metaphorically "stopped".

I can't be completely mad that I've lost a good chunk of what many older people consider to be the best years of your life when there are young teens and children who haven't spent enough years in "normal" society to know that what happened wasn't normal, and will never be normal. And they will be feeling these effects for months, years, maybe even the rest of their life. The psychological impact that the Covidian Insurgency wrought in terms of isolating oneself from the outside world, your family and acquaintances, being stranded in strange lands to the point you will have completely forgotten the concept of "home", and constant fearmongering from the news is likely understated, and we won't know the full extent until the 2030s once these people have started to grow up.
Man, teens and kids are gonna bear those scars for a long time. All for a power grab. How vile.
 
The only way they’ll ever earn my forgiveness is with 3 conditions:

1. That every pro lockdown politician is ousted from their positions and charged for ruining businesses and contributing to the heightened suicides.

2. That every person who cheered on the lockdowns be denied their right to vote ever again.

3. That every healthcare professionals who argued to lengthen the lockdowns have their licences revoked and face jail time for all the damage they did

I won’t accept anything less than that, at minimum. I want these people to fucking suffer the consequences of pushing these lockdown policies for two years
 
I'm an extravert so being locked inside for two years really fucking sucked. I lost all progress on my weight loss because the gym was vaxx only and I refused to take the retard juice.
Again, my condolences. I hoped you figured out your diet though. That's a large part of health people refuse to understand or don't.
 
I'll forgive. On one simple set of conditions.

You issue a public statement that the skeptics were right on the pandemic since day one. That you were wrong for pushing the mandates, for the lockdowns, for ignoring us when we tried to advise you of the magnitude of what you were doing. You acknowledge, publicly, and without exception, before the entire fucking world, that you were wrong all along, and knowingly did what you chose to do.

Do that, and I will forgive.
 
Eh, it's not like I gorge myself. I just like my meat and have a sweet tooth.
White meat? Fruits?
These are all very important. You might not be gorging yourself, but it can still be a lot. And what you think might not be much can turn out to be a lot overall if you have it every day.
 
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