Science Let's Declare a Pandemic Amnesty - [LOL] We need to forgive one another for what we did and said when we were in the dark about COVID.

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In April 2020, with nothing else to do, my family took an enormous number of hikes. We all wore cloth masks that I had made myself. We had a family hand signal, which the person in the front would use if someone was approaching on the trail and we needed to put on our masks. Once, when another child got too close to my then-4-year-old son on a bridge, he yelled at her “SOCIAL DISTANCING!”

These precautions were totally misguided. In April 2020, no one got the coronavirus from passing someone else hiking. Outdoor transmission was vanishingly rare. Our cloth masks made out of old bandanas wouldn’t have done anything, anyway. But the thing is: We didn’t know.

I have been reflecting on this lack of knowledge thanks to a class I’m co-teaching at Brown University on COVID. We’ve spent several lectures reliving the first year of the pandemic, discussing the many important choices we had to make under conditions of tremendous uncertainty.

Some of these choices turned out better than others. To take an example close to my own work, there is an emerging (if not universal) consensus that schools in the U.S. were closed for too long: The health risks of in-school spread were relatively low, whereas the costs to students’ well-being and educational progress were high. The latest figures on learning loss are alarming. But in spring and summer 2020, we had only glimmers of information. Reasonable people—people who cared about children and teachers—advocated on both sides of the reopening debate.

Another example: When the vaccines came out, we lacked definitive data on the relative efficacies of the Johnson & Johnson shot versus the mRNA options from Pfizer and Moderna. The mRNA vaccines have won out. But at the time, many people in public health were either neutral or expressed a J&J preference. This misstep wasn’t nefarious. It was the result of uncertainty.

Obviously some people intended to mislead and made wildly irresponsible claims. Remember when the public-health community had to spend a lot of time and resources urging Americans not to inject themselves with bleach? That was bad. Misinformation was, and remains, a huge problem. But most errors were made by people who were working in earnest for the good of society.

Given the amount of uncertainty, almost every position was taken on every topic. And on every topic, someone was eventually proved right, and someone else was proved wrong. In some instances, the right people were right for the wrong reasons. In other instances, they had a prescient understanding of the available information.

The people who got it right, for whatever reason, may want to gloat. Those who got it wrong, for whatever reason, may feel defensive and retrench into a position that doesn’t accord with the facts. All of this gloating and defensiveness continues to gobble up a lot of social energy and to drive the culture wars, especially on the internet. These discussions are heated, unpleasant and, ultimately, unproductive. In the face of so much uncertainty, getting something right had a hefty element of luck. And, similarly, getting something wrong wasn’t a moral failing. Treating pandemic choices as a scorecard on which some people racked up more points than others is preventing us from moving forward.

We have to put these fights aside and declare a pandemic amnesty. We can leave out the willful purveyors of actual misinformation while forgiving the hard calls that people had no choice but to make with imperfect knowledge. Los Angeles County closed its beaches in summer 2020. Ex post facto, this makes no more sense than my family’s masked hiking trips. But we need to learn from our mistakes and then let them go. We need to forgive the attacks, too. Because I thought schools should reopen and argued that kids as a group were not at high risk, I was called a “teacher killer” and a “génocidaire.” It wasn’t pleasant, but feelings were high. And I certainly don’t need to dissect and rehash that time for the rest of my days.

Moving on is crucial now, because the pandemic created many problems that we still need to solve.

Student test scores have shown historic declines, more so in math than in reading, and more so for students who were disadvantaged at the start. We need to collect data, experiment, and invest. Is high-dosage tutoring more or less cost-effective than extended school years? Why have some states recovered faster than others? We should focus on questions like these, because answering them is how we will help our children recover.

Many people have neglected their health care over the past several years. Notably, routine vaccination rates for children (for measles, pertussis, etc.) are way down. Rather than debating the role that messaging about COVID vaccines had in this decline, we need to put all our energy into bringing these rates back up. Pediatricians and public-health officials will need to work together on community outreach, and politicians will need to consider school mandates.

The standard saying is that those who forget history are doomed to repeat it. But dwelling on the mistakes of history can lead to a repetitive doom loop as well. Let’s acknowledge that we made complicated choices in the face of deep uncertainty, and then try to work together to build back and move forward.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/10/covid-response-forgiveness/671879/ (Archive)
 
I'll forgive them if they perform the traditional Dance of Reconciliation with me.
It goes like this: we put on some latin jazz and I beat you with a pipe wrench for five minutes. Deal?
 
Don't forget any of this.

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And if you're like me, a survivalist (not a fucking prepper, get out of here with that bullshit), NEVER forget that they mocked you for stockpiling and learning BEFORE the pandemic, begged you for help during the pandemic, then, when they thought they were safe, started mocking you again.

It isn't that ant and the grasshopper. It isn't "and then the ant, because he wasn't a sociopathic asshole, shared with the grasshopper" like the new saying is, it's "the grasshopper called the cops, harassed, and claimed the ant was a terrorist and a crazy person".

Fuck them.

Remember who they were and do not forgive.
 
Nah fuck anti-vaxers and anti-maskers, ended up making the whole thing take longer than it needed to because they are huge pussies who can't take self responsibility. Still crazy they still deny reality after them being proved wrong every time, they really are a cult.
 
I'll forgive them if they perform the traditional Dance of Reconciliation with me.
It goes like this: we put on some latin jazz and I beat you with a pipe wrench for five minutes. Deal?
Agreed except for your soundtrack. I think “Funkytown” might be a better choice.
 
Nah fuck anti-vaxers and anti-maskers, ended up making the whole thing take longer than it needed to because they are huge pussies who can't take self responsibility. Still crazy they still deny reality after them being proved wrong every time, they really are a cult.
Everyone - including the author of this article - now admits that masks were useless and the vaccine doesn't prevent transmission. Yet you say not participating in those completely ineffective activities made "the whole thing take longer".

Who exactly is denying reality here?
 
Everyone - including the author of this article - now admits that masks were useless and the vaccine doesn't prevent transmission. Yet you say not participating in those completely ineffective activities made "the whole thing take longer".

Who exactly is denying reality here?
I'm sick of posting the same shit showing how you are people are wrong as I've done in other threads, but here a few studies,
But here few studies I found in a quick google
But anti-vaxers don't listen to the truth, so you won't
 
I'm sick of posting the same shit showing how you are people are wrong as I've done in other threads, but here a few studies,
But here few studies I found in a quick google
But anti-vaxers don't listen to the truth, so you won't
one of these isn't even peer reviewed
 
one of these isn't even peer reviewed
And none of their conclusions prove his point in the first place. Even the most recent and relevant one claims a reduction of transmission likelihood from 31-42% to 25-31%.

A "vaccine" that decreases transmission likelihood by eight fucking percentage points. I mean, Jesus Christ, talk about clutching at straws.
 
wtf I finally did the unthinkable and read the story to the end to figure why she even cares about forgiveness. If she wants forgiveness for her ignorance, she's on the side in power, what could she possibly want to gain from this?

Student test scores have shown historic declines, more so in math than in reading, and more so for students who were disadvantaged at the start. We need to collect data, experiment, and invest. Is high-dosage tutoring more or less cost-effective than extended school years? Why have some states recovered faster than others? We should focus on questions like these, because answering them is how we will help our children recover.
She vaguely wants education to get better. Well fuck off lady, the reason education is in the shitter is because teachers refused to teach because they were on your side shutting everything down too. You don't need amnesty to fix schools, you need to take that up with your own allies.

Many people have neglected their health care over the past several years. Notably, routine vaccination rates for children (for measles, pertussis, etc.) are way down. Rather than debating the role that messaging about COVID vaccines had in this decline, we need to put all our energy into bringing these rates back up.
Pls forgib for forced jabs, we need to work together to get more jabs.

:story:

Pediatricians and public-health officials will need to work together on community outreach, and politicians will need to consider school mandates.
Pediatricians must refuse to make woke pledges. Public health officials have to stop being troons who killed grandmas while saving their own. Politicians must stop considering anything and enact the will of their constituents. And yes, in some places that will will be to become an authoritatian shithole, but at least it will be an authoritarian shithole localized to the people who have approved of it.

The standard saying is that those who forget history are doomed to repeat it. But dwelling on the mistakes of history can lead to a repetitive doom loop as well.
Sounds like a man who would be an abusive boyfriend being so mad that he can't even reach abusive boyfriend status because his mark is holding too much of a grudge to let him even be a boyfriend. Rape culture much?

Let’s acknowledge that we made complicated choices in the face of deep uncertainty, and then try to work together to build back and move forward.
Has the author listed even once sacrifice or piece of effort they'll put into this so called "work together"? Where is the "together" in all this?
 
I'm sick of posting the same shit showing how you are people are wrong as I've done in other threads, but here a few studies,
But here few studies I found in a quick google
why are you reading Omicron era studies? thats long after the virus was any danger...
 
I'm sick of posting the same shit showing how you are people are wrong as I've done in other threads, but here a few studies,
But here few studies I found in a quick google
But anti-vaxers don't listen to the truth, so you won't
Very compelling.

Please face wall now.
 
OK so serious question.

I don't believe the original author for a moment, but I'm sure there are countless people who were little hitlers who are now attempting to masquerade as normal - because they don't want to stay indoors anymore while everyone else is living life, if nothing else. And they might not have such a public online record to dig up.

As I continue on through life, how do I identify these chameleons before they get close enough to stab me in the back? I don't think most of them are wearing masks anymore, are they?

To be specific, my line here includes things like vocal support, snitching, selective enforcement, and mocking anyone who was concerned about nCov-19 before the order to shut everything down was given. I don't hold a grudge against cucks, even if they were in a position to not cuck, so long as they didn't attempt to induce anyone else to go the same.
 
OK so serious question.

I don't believe the original author for a moment, but I'm sure there are countless people who were little hitlers who are now attempting to masquerade as normal - because they don't want to stay indoors anymore while everyone else is living life, if nothing else. And they might not have such a public online record to dig up.

As I continue on through life, how do I identify these chameleons before they get close enough to stab me in the back? I don't think most of them are wearing masks anymore, are they?

To be specific, my line here includes things like vocal support, snitching, selective enforcement, and mocking anyone who was concerned about nCov-19 before the order to shut everything down was given. I don't hold a grudge against cucks, even if they were in a position to not cuck, so long as they didn't attempt to induce anyone else to go the same.
If it's something purely professional and transactional, I wouldn't worry. If it's beyond just business, I'd bluntly ask if they're jabbed and if they say yes, then you can start narrowing down their character. If you happen to know them in some greater personal capacity, check their social media - if they have any and look for NPC talking points pushed by the narrative.
 
Mild inconvenience over a dumb fucking useless dress code is nowhere near the level of shit as supporting gulags and camps where people got culled en masse, those two things aren't even remotely similar lmao.

It's not different. We all saw how casually things ramped up when the little Nazis started cheering for people losing their jobs, saying they should have no access to banking, saying they should be segregated from the rest of the public, etc. It's the othering and sick eagerness to persecute people that's relevant, not how far they got to indulge it.
 
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