💥 Trainwreck Laur Trueman / RVT01 - Batshit crazy mother of "influencer" Lillee Jean Trueman.

[Enoby Way]

You know how LJ said "I need to be tended to. Sexually and emotionally." in that most recent livestream? It replays in my head constantly. I need to vent about that.

 

[Mister Dodo]

Meet Sarah Michel, a creator who attended L&L's stream with Cheshire and Steve McBoomer.

Dans la vidéo, Sarah gives a pretty humorous and accurate summary of the saga so far. She goes on to discuss the drama surrounding her and that stream. Apparently she took part because she happened to be acquainted with Steve at the time, and never said anything beyond bland statements and simple advice during the stream. Along with sharing the recent bf drama, she shits on Lillie's vainglorious whiteknight Steve McRae and Danger Zone/Illusive Man/Defango (Primink and Creepshow's faildoxxer).
And at 29:57, she shares a Ballad dedicated to the high jeanie's dear mother.

In an earlier video, she discusses the grand boomer Steve himself.

 

[QuokkaCaptain]

I've read through the whole thread at this point, and I don't think this has been asked/clarified before.

@Munchie_Minder I'm curious to get your opinion in particular, since you seem to have some in-depth knowledge on the topic and are of the belief that Lillie has Williams Syndrome.

First, just my own curiosity: Does anyone know why is it that her teeth look like that? Is it that they're malformed, or did she just never grow adult teeth- what's the deal there? They don't look broken or rotted or anything, just... Unusual.

Second: Someone (possibly Munchie_Minder, maybe someone else) mentioned here that people with Williams Syndrome have difficulty learning from their mistakes, being gullible, etc. Obviously we can't be 100% certain of anything, but how likely is it that Lillie is being manipulated by her mother, vs. her maybe just being a spoiled brat?

I ask because while it's totally possible that Laur is just totally taking advantage of her daughter's inability to smell bullshit, I wonder how much of it is Lillie having actual behavioral issues? If she has a mother modeling bad behavior, OR if she's having bad behavior reinforced by Mommie Dearest (and has a syndrome that impairs her ability to think critically about/alter her behavior), I'd think there's just as much a likelihood of this being learned/reinforced behavior.

It's hard to put into words, but having watched a lot of Lillie Jean's videos, she's not just naive. If she was an otherwise sweetnatured person who ignored or was sad about people saying bad things about her, I'd be inclined to think it's Laur manipulating a vulnerable person. But there are a lot of videos where she kind of comes off like a bossy twelve year-old girl who thinks that being sassy makes her look grown-up.

IDK. tl;dr I'm torn on how much of this is a kid with a syndrome being manipulated by mom, vs. a kid with a syndrome who's being encouraged to act the way she does by her batshit mother.

 

[BroccoliBrain]

First, just my own curiosity: Does anyone know why is it that her teeth look like that? Is it that they're malformed, or did she just never grow adult teeth- what's the deal there? They don't look broken or rotted or anything, just... Unusual.

I think there's a condition where some people are born without adult teeth, I don't know if it's a sure sign of a sped or if it's 50/50 and you can have it while otherwise being 'normal'.

Her unwarranted alpha bitch behaviour always read as fake to me, whether she's 'smart' enough to be mimicking her mother or if her mother forces her to do it doesn't make that much difference - I think if she really had that fire in her she wouldn't be harmlessly drawing on her face and into Disney like a child with a mommy-manager-lawyer, she'd be starting shit herself on a corner of the internet. Maybe. I just skim this thread but I've yet to see her try to be the alpha of her own clique as a demonstration of that personality trait, even if it's in some shitty 5-person DeviantArt group where all the girls bitch about who draws Elsa on MS Paint the worst, Lillie only puts on her bitchface when she's clearly being directed.

 

[Donbasstard]

I think there's a condition where some people are born without adult teeth, I don't know if it's a sure sign of a sped or if it's 50/50 and you can have it while otherwise being 'normal'.

I’m not a doctor or a dentist or anything, but my uncle had one canine baby tooth not fall out because he didn’t have an adult canine and he actually became a doctor so I think it has nothing to do with being a sped. I’m too lazy to google it though.

 

[Enoby Way]

I think its a case of odd teeth frequently but not always indicating a condition.

From here: https://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/condition/williams-syndrome#definition

"People with Williams syndrome typically have difficulty with visual-spatial tasks such as drawing and assembling puzzles, but they tend to do well on tasks that involve spoken language, music, and learning by repetition (rote memorization). Affected individuals have outgoing, engaging personalities and tend to take an extreme interest in other people. Attention deficit disorder (ADD), problems with anxiety, and phobias are common among people with this disorder.

Young children with Williams syndrome have distinctive facial features including a broad forehead, a short nose with a broad tip, full cheeks, and a wide mouth with full lips. Many affected people have dental problems such as teeth that are small, widely spaced, crooked, or missing. In older children and adults, the face appears longer and more gaunt."

I agree the teeth fit with this, but her face doesn't appear long or gaunt. Her nose does have a very broad tip but it is long rather that short. Wide mouth, sure, full lips--how full is full?

The biggest thing that says she doesn't have it, to me, is that she looks much more like her mom than she does other people with Williams Syndrome.

She also doesn't have much of a genuinely engaging personality (pretty shallow affect in my non professional opinion), is kind of a dick, and nor does she seem that interested in other people.

But all that said, in some photos she looks really normal, in others she looks very... non-chromosome-typical.

We need to bring someone in from the fundie tard babies thread, some of those people can spot the phenotype of a shitton of conditions, from a mile away.

Edit: actually, seriously, would posting a question in that thread about Lillee Jean, asking ppl to come to this thread and weigh in on any likely conditions, be allowed? Especially if I found something useful to contribute on-topic as well?

 

[Parthenos]

I think its a case of odd teeth frequently but not always indicating a condition.

From here: https://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/condition/williams-syndrome#definition

"People with Williams syndrome typically have difficulty with visual-spatial tasks such as drawing and assembling puzzles, but they tend to do well on tasks that involve spoken language, music, and learning by repetition (rote memorization). Affected individuals have outgoing, engaging personalities and tend to take an extreme interest in other people. Attention deficit disorder (ADD), problems with anxiety, and phobias are common among people with this disorder.

Young children with Williams syndrome have distinctive facial features including a broad forehead, a short nose with a broad tip, full cheeks, and a wide mouth with full lips. Many affected people have dental problems such as teeth that are small, widely spaced, crooked, or missing. In older children and adults, the face appears longer and more gaunt."

I agree the teeth fit with this, but her face doesn't appear long or gaunt. Her nose does have a very broad tip but it is long rather that short. Wide mouth, sure, full lips--how full is full?

The biggest thing that says she doesn't have it, to me, is that she looks much more like her mom than she does other people with Williams Syndrome.

She also doesn't have much of a genuinely engaging personality (pretty shallow affect in my non professional opinion), is kind of a dick, and nor does she seem that interested in other people.

But all that said, in some photos she looks really normal, in others she looks very... non-chromosome-typical.

We need to bring someone in from the fundie tard babies thread, some of those people can spot the phenotype of a shitton of conditions, from a mile away.

Edit: actually, seriously, would posting a question in that thread about Lillee Jean, asking ppl to come to this thread and weigh in on any likely conditions, be allowed? Especially if I found something useful to contribute on-topic as well?

This has been covered already in the thread, and many of the relevant markers are indeed there.

If this girl does NOT have Williams Syndrome, I will legitimately eat my hat. Mark it down. I will do it on my first ever YouTube video for all of you to see.

Spoiler: Lillee as a baby

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Spoiler: Wide smile, stellate patterned eyes, long, flattened philtrum, elfin Facies and malformed teeth

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Here are a few that are shown in Google search. The few I have in a textbook are old and severe cases.

Spoiler: Child with Williams; note: wide smile, malformed teeth, Elfin facies, long philtrum

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Spoiler: William Syndrome Female as Child/Adult

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It's been general consensus in the thread for a reason.

 

[Enoby Way]

This has been covered already in the thread, and all the markers are indeed there.



It's been general consensus in the thread for a reason.

Oops. Thanks.

Clarifying edit: it has been a couple of weeks since I read through the entire thread, so I forgot how detailed the discussion got.

 

[DarthBrooks]

I don't give a fuck what disease or disorder she has. She is a fugly ass hobgoblin, her pure junji-esque ugmo is only surpassed by her shitty entitled attitude.

 

[Rabid Weasels]

As long as we are rehashing facial deformities and whatnot, id like to reiterate that Laur is Glen Danzig's identical twin.

 

[Mister Dodo]

I think we're near unanimous on Lillie's disability, but it's important to remember that there are other factors at play here. Lillie appears to have a personality akin to many attributes of William's Syndrome. However, the source of her more bitchy "I am Lillie Jean" attitudes is quite obvious. It's important to remember that Laur gatekeeps nearly everything that comes into her daughter's life. Lillie's behavior can be attributed to both these things; a volatile concoction of autism that makes her that much more a lolcow.

There might be more information on the lolcow.farm threads, I'll leave them here if anyone wants to do some digging.
Lolcow.farm thread 1
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Lolcow.farm thread 3
Lolcow.farm thread 3.5
Lolcow.farm thread 4
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Lolcow.farm thread 9
Lolcow.farm thread 10

 

[Meredith Swift]

I went back. a few pages and haven't seen it posted, but forgive me if I'm late.

I came across Lillee's mandy.com profile and it's...a bit of a trip.

Link: Archive.org Mandy.com

Screenshots:








Reel/Monologue video/idekwtf:

Spoiler: Spergnalysis

Measurements: I use the metric system so forgive me if I'm being a dumbass, but shouldn't it be 5'0 instead of 4'12? Is Laur doing this to make her appear more petite?
Also, body type: slim? Fucking lol. I don't think there's anything necessarily wrong with her body type, but she's average-thick, definitely not slim.
And her hair is auburn, not blonde, and her eyes are green, not blue, but whatever, Laur.

Credits: Lillee Jean, world famous actor with two credits, both of which for some online web video shit, one of which was from when she was ELEVEN and inexplicably played a Korean dancer for some reason. Why did Laur think this was impressive? On the other hand, I'm lowkey surprised that she didn't make up some random shit to pad her resume. After all, this is Laur Trueman, prop director for movie and TV sets across North America /sneed

I looked up this underdogscollective and it turns out it's just a site where people upload their videos/articles about how they rose above being an underdog or some schlock. Lillee's contribution is literally just a youtube video Laur uploaded where Lillee talks about how she was supposedly "pre-diabetic" as a kid because she had a dark mark on her neck idk. It all sounds like a lot of bullshit to me. She goes on about how she discovered acting and she's "really good at it". k.

I couldn't find the Spotlight on Korea video, but I get the feeling it's even less impressive.

The About Me section is similarly full of lies and obnoxious bragging. Did you know Lillee's such an environmentalist that she advocates for reusable straws?

But don't be fooled! She's "not a tree-hugger" and is against "angry protesting" because she's an enlightened individual.

She also claims to have partnered with Richard Branson on his charity, Chooose, except...Richard Branson doesn't own Chooose
He partnered with them once in 2018, but it is a Norwegian charity that he otherwise has nothing to do with. And apart from doing a small giveaway on Instagram over a year ago, she really doesn't seem to have much else to do with them.

 

[multiverse]

I went back. a few pages and haven't seen it posted, but forgive me if I'm late.

I came across Lillee's mandy.com profile and it's...a bit of a trip.

Link: Archive.org Mandy.com

Screenshots:
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Reel/Monologue video/idekwtf:
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Spoiler: Spergnalysis

Measurements: I use the metric system so forgive me if I'm being a dumbass, but shouldn't it be 5'0 instead of 4'12? Is Laur doing this to make her appear more petite?
Also, body type: slim? Fucking lol. I don't think there's anything necessarily wrong with her body type, but she's average-thick, definitely not slim.
And her hair is auburn, not blonde, and her eyes are green, not blue, but whatever, Laur.

Credits: Lillee Jean, world famous actor with two credits, both of which for some online web video shit, one of which was from when she was ELEVEN and inexplicably played a Korean dancer for some reason. Why did Laur think this was impressive? On the other hand, I'm lowkey surprised that she didn't make up some random shit to pad her resume. After all, this is Laur Trueman, prop director for movie and TV sets across North America /sneed

I looked up this underdogscollective and it turns out it's just a site where people upload their videos/articles about how they rose above being an underdog or some schlock. Lillee's contribution is literally just a youtube video Laur uploaded where Lillee talks about how she was supposedly "pre-diabetic" as a kid because she had a dark mark on her neck idk. It all sounds like a lot of bullshit to me. She goes on about how she discovered acting and she's "really good at it". k.

I couldn't find the Spotlight on Korea video, but I get the feeling it's even less impressive.

The About Me section is similarly full of lies and obnoxious bragging. Did you know Lillee's such an environmentalist that she advocates for reusable straws?

But don't be fooled! She's "not a tree-hugger" and is against "angry protesting" because she's an enlightened individual.

She also claims to have partnered with Richard Branson on his charity, Chooose, except...Richard Branson doesn't own Chooose
He partnered with them once in 2018, but it is a Norwegian charity that he otherwise has nothing to do with. And apart from doing a small giveaway on Instagram over a year ago, she really doesn't seem to have much else to do with them.

She tried to lie about her height by adding an inch... and wrote it as 4' 12"

 

[DarthBrooks]

Seriously though, which is the bigger cow, Laur or Lillee? One stalks and harasses internet people, the child fakes a creepy gross relationship that is pathetically see through.

 

[Enoby Way]

Seriously though, which is the bigger cow, Laur or Lillee? One stalks and harasses internet people, the child fakes a creepy gross relationship that is pathetically see through.

They have merged together to become a super cow. One provides 80% of the internet persona/face, and 20% of the chimping; and the other provides 80% of the chimping, 20% of the internet persona/face. Together, they've got one goal, but double the fun! Alter the numbers as you see fit but that's kind of how I see it. 2 gals 1 cow.

 

[DumbDude42]

on the one hand, i feel really sorry for lillee. it is really obvious that the combination of being slow in the head and having an overbearing crazy narc mother has fucked up her life and personality really bad. i hope she can get away from crazy laur at some point.

on the other hand, i dread the day she actually gets away from her mother and leaves the attic. a girl like her will instantly end up getting taken advantage of and preyed on by some 50 year old pervert claiming to be some kind of influential producer.
people think that the old "i can make you famous girl, just come to my room with me" thing is a meme but a tard like lillee won't last a week on her own before falling for something like that and getting weinstein'd.

feels like no matter what happens, this girl is screwed

 

[Mister Dodo]

on the one hand, i feel really sorry for lillee. it is really obvious that the combination of being slow in the head and having an overbearing crazy narc mother has fucked up her life and personality really bad. i hope she can get away from crazy laur at some point.

on the other hand, i dread the day she actually gets away from her mother and leaves the attic. a girl like her will instantly end up getting taken advantage of and preyed on by some 50 year old pervert claiming to be some kind of influential producer.
people think that the old "i can make you famous girl, just come to my room with me" thing is a meme but a tard like lillee won't last a week on her own before falling for something like that and getting weinstein'd.

feels like no matter what happens, this girl is screwed

I've heard some people say she might troon out, but that outcome seems pretty unprobable to me. The ingredients for a troonout simply aren't there. Maybe she'll eventually switch to more acting stuff, possibly her nonexistent vocal talents. We haven't covered enough pasture too play psychic yet. But looking at the near future, she'll most likely just get into more ridiculous drama minisagas.

 

[DumbDude42]

Maybe she'll eventually switch to more acting stuff, possibly her nonexistent vocal talents.

that's exactly what im worried about. this whole "beauty guru" thing is dumb and retarded, but from what ive seen it's all run by crazy women online so it's at least somewhat 'safe'. but if she tries to get into the wider 'show business' (music, acting, etc), that's a whole different scene and it's filled to the brim with all kinds of sketchy dudes and predators. young impressionable girls getting lured in with promises of glamour and fame only to get turned out by nasty perverts is a very common thing in those circles, and lillee is one of the most impressionable and naive girls i've seen in a long time. it's a disaster just waiting to happen, and since she doesn't have a capable protector (manager, agent, etc) watching out for her, she's pretty much guaranteed to walk right into it.

 

[Donbasstard]

She tried to lie about her height by adding an inch... and wrote it as 4' 12"

First thing I noticed was 4’12. I don’t even use that weird 12 inches in a foot 3 feet in a yard 5280 feet in a mile abortion of a measurement system.

 

[Mister Dodo]

that's exactly what im worried about. this whole "beauty guru" thing is dumb and exceptional, but from what ive seen it's all run by crazy women online so it's at least somewhat 'safe'. but if she tries to get into the wider 'show business' (music, acting, etc), that's a whole different scene and it's filled to the brim with all kinds of sketchy dudes and predators. young impressionable girls getting lured in with promises of glamour and fame only to get turned out by nasty perverts is a very common thing in those circles, and lillee is one of the most impressionable and naive girls i've seen in a long time. it's a disaster just waiting to happen, and since she doesn't have a capable protector (manager, agent, etc) watching out for her, she's pretty much guaranteed to walk right into it.

This is very hypothetical, but considering how naïve Lillie is, what is the chance that she's not a virgin?