💰 Grifter Kino Casino - Read Kiwifarms with abortionist A-a-andy Warski and lardy PPP. A lolcow drama show. 2/28/2019, never forget.

[Molag Bal]

How is paypigging justified at all? When I see a funny man on the internet, giving them my hard earned cash for nothing never crosses my mind. What's going on in their heads that they actually act this way?

The intended reason within this model is
>good luck getting the stuff you like talked about in an established broadcasting network
>defer to a voluntary capitalism model to 'make your own' as lolbergs would say
>people throw money in a hat on a voluntary basis to pool resources and fund whatever show they like
The problem isn't the model itself, it's content creators deliberately playing into parasocial relationships to maximise earnings.

I know that making internet money is scoffed at within the sektur, but money is the grease that keeps any machine running. Everything runs on money. You think Josh has a secret day job and is funding the upkeep out of his own pocket? This whole site runs on internet money. Without internet money, all you will ever have are walled gardens like twitter and facebook and heavily curated news aggregation through the usual alphabet suspects with no option to discuss things candidly anywhere. I genuinely think that one major reason why several past dissident online movements have died is specifically because this whole 'internet money bad' mentality makes for a very convenient rationale to justify crabs-in-a-bucket behaviour, which makes astroturfing dissident groups into destroying each other very easy. You can't keep something running or dedicate the necessary time to it without money, and you can't make money or take donations because spergs will dedicate themselves to finding ways to destroy that income of yours. If it's not some weirdly obtained personal grudge like with Asston or an ulterior motive like with trannies, it'll be out of plain jealousy.

Case in point, the primary subject of KC, Nick Fuentes is a great example of this. Astroturfing dissident groups into eating each other by pointing fingers and accusing them of grifting is exactly how he grew AF and made all his money.


Edit: By the way, does someone happen to know a KC episode that has all the little meme phrases compressed into one at the very start? Asking for ML script generation purposes.

 

[All becomes gunt]

Although I don't think they got 50k each, I think you're on to something. It makes a lot of sense that they're coasting off the Signal Boot donos, combined with the boxing payout (which was at least 5k each I'd imagine, I could see it being closer to 10k) and a trickle of legitimate donos coming in from brain dead Rackets/Metokur paypigs. Warski lives at home, his only expense is boxed wine. But Ashton is paying 3k a month in rent, must be spending at least 10k on Ubereats a month while maintaining a gambling addiction. His outcome per month could pass 25k a month easily when you include the betting. Next KC someone should tally up how much they took in donations that night not including MM.

Ashton made the argument to Godwinson that the donos couldn't be fake as Ashton is clearly living the high life. In the Warski cooking show we saw that Ashton's apartment is completely empty. The only furniture he had was a small table and couple of chairs that clearly came with the apartment. The greasy faggot can't even afford a sofa, probably sleeps on a mattress on the floor too. Warski is taking as much as Ashton is and he's still up there in his parent's attic. What evidence is there that they're making all this money outside of Ashton living in an empty two bedroom apartment he shares with his brother instead of an empty cabin alone in the forest? What a shame that no one archived the Queen of Outlines stream exposing a lot of this, sounds like it had some key information to getting closer to the truth.

The stream was archived. Crossposting from the other thread. Mega with the archived QOP stream . The KC part starts around 28:30.

 

[internet friend]

The intended reason within this model is
>good luck getting the stuff you like talked about in an established broadcasting network
>defer to a voluntary capitalism model to 'make your own' as lolbergs would say
>people throw money in a hat on a voluntary basis to pool resources and fund whatever show they like
The problem isn't the model itself, it's content creators deliberately playing into parasocial relationships to maximise earnings.

I know that making internet money is scoffed at within the sektur, but money is the grease that keeps any machine running. Everything runs on money. You think Josh has a secret day job and is funding the upkeep out of his own pocket? This whole site runs on internet money. Without internet money, all you will ever have are walled gardens like twitter and facebook and heavily curated news aggregation through the usual alphabet suspects with no option to discuss things candidly anywhere. I genuinely think that one major reason why several past dissident online movements have died is specifically because this whole 'internet money bad' mentality makes for a very convenient rationale to justify crabs-in-a-bucket behaviour, which makes astroturfing dissident groups into destroying each other very easy. You can't keep something running or dedicate the necessary time to it without money, and you can't make money or take donations because spergs will dedicate themselves to finding ways to destroy that income of yours. If it's not some weirdly obtained personal grudge like with Asston or an ulterior motive like with trannies, it'll be out of plain jealousy.

Case in point, the primary subject of KC, Nick Fuentes is a great example of this. Astroturfing dissident groups into eating each other by pointing fingers and accusing them of grifting is exactly how he grew AF and made all his money.


Edit: By the way, does someone happen to know a KC episode that has all the little meme phrases compressed into one at the very start? Asking for ML script generation purposes.

I agree with a lot of your points, and am not opposed to internet money going to people who provide something for it. My confusion and disbelief is more at the fact that paypigs will throw money for literally nothing in return aside from something as mundane as discord servers.

To use your example, if you donate to Josh, you get the continuation of the kiwifarms, which adds some level of value to your life, albeit only entertainment value. If you donate to the child killer, you get to hear him stutter and go WHOAAAA CHAT, which is utterly worthless.

I assume most of us here have at least some degree of financial understanding, enough to understand that money isn't free and takes work and effort to gain, and as such you want to get some level of value in exchange for it. How this doesn't click in the minds of paypigs who toss money with nothing in return is the main issue, not the model itself.

 

[Daemon Sultan]

Guys guys guys! It's okay his throat is just a little felted! The KC will be back... just a few more days!! Trust the plan, #where we grift one we grift all

 

[DoomSayer]

It doesn't make sense that since it started, there hasn't been a single negative donation on the KC. Are we meant to believe that by now there isn't some alog who was willing to donate a buck to call Ashton a fat lesbian? There hasn't been a single sneak diss for fuck sake. You could argue that an alog wouldn't be dumb enough to donate and potentially dox themselves to KC, but if you're used to watching these lolcow streams you'll see there is always at least one brain dead alog who will donate talking shit on these cows. Even normal streamers who don't have an audience of devoted alogs get bad donos from time to time. But KC hasn't got a single one? It's suspect and a sign of something shady going on, to me its the biggest evidence the donos are faked alongside MM being able to donate when they had no payment processor.

I was thinking about this a few weeks ago too. I was even tempted to donate with some bad faith comment. But that thought quickly passed as I have a fully functioning adult brain. Do they even read anything under $20?

 

[Grand Wizard Wakka]

Watch "donating to us is how you make Ralph seethe" become "donating to us is how you make us seethe".

 

[Santiago_Nasar]

looking forward to see PPP being euthanized by the Canadian Health Care System for his throat soreness

 

[Miller]

How many shows in a row have they skipped on? There was last Fri and supposedly this Rakeback they promised and didn't they promise a Rakeback last week that they didn't deliver on?

How do the simps justify paypiggin' to them?

There were also 2 "Kino Cathedral" (PPP on his other channel) promised that never went live.

 

[Morris Schaffer]

There were also 2 "Kino Cathedral" (PPP on his other channel) promised that never went live.

Well, that is entirety in the spirit of the Antediluvian kings as revealed by Prophet Godwinson: "Promise everything , deliver nothing ." Naaah, just kidding, Asston and Troonski are just lazy and probably hiding to avoid being mocked for their past sins. Oh, and Asston is FATTTT.

 

[PhoBingas]

I'm not Canadian but according to a quick google search you can get gibs for being obese (totally insane if true, paying people to eat themselves to death ), who knows how long you can live on those when you're eating $1000 a month though.

Ontario Disability Support Payments are only like 1800$ a month. Unless he's in subsidized housing (which I doubt, the wait list is retarded long and migrants get first dibs) that wouldn't cover half the rent for his apartment if it was in the greater Toronto area. There's got to be some family member bankrolling him.

 

[BrieLarsonFan2004]

Ontario Disability Support Payments are only like 1800$ a month. Unless he's in subsidized housing (which I doubt, the wait list is retarded long and migrants get first dibs) that wouldn't cover half the rent for his apartment if it was in the greater Toronto area. There's got to be some family member bankrolling him.

KoP said PPP was living with his brother Croc in a $3000 a month apartment here: https://kiwifarms.net/threads/kino-casino.110845/page-486#post-13921056

 

[All becomes gunt]

Ontario Disability Support Payments are only like 1800$ a month. Unless he's in subsidized housing (which I doubt, the wait list is retarded long and migrants get first dibs) that wouldn't cover half the rent for his apartment if it was in the greater Toronto area. There's got to be some family member bankrolling him.

It's obviously uncle norm. This new sketchy donation site and streaming service he keeps shilling to everyone... While his uncle works for CSIS... Somehow he is still in that 3k appartment... Really gets those almonds working. While he still has leftovers from signalboot days and the half of the boxing bag he alledgedly got there could be something going on but we will have to wait and see for a couple more months to say for sure.

 

[Super Male Vitality]

Can we get a new poll question for thread? Will the resolution of PPP’s next stream be higher or lower than his body weight (in lbs)?

 

[JohnWayne'sImpactedFeces]

For anyone whom may be reading in the future and trying to make sense of the current state of affairs, the Queen of Solicitation's stream has also been archived on the lbry blockchain.

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Queen Solicitor goes scorched earth on the Kilo Consumo.

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[Manwithamask2]

Than the gods finally back here with my lukewarm takes. Well KC fell apart sooner than i expected. I thought that Andy's retarded phoenix arc would have lasted longer, but oh well it is what it is. KC is dead and buried, Andy will find a new victim to leech off from and ppp will do what he always does, memory hole everything and try to start fresh. Wish those midwits could have delivered us at least a seasons worth of entertainment. But, oh well that is life.

 

[Lobster Cult High Priest]

Ontario Disability Support Payments are only like 1800$ a month. Unless he's in subsidized housing (which I doubt, the wait list is retarded long and migrants get first dibs) that wouldn't cover half the rent for his apartment if it was in the greater Toronto area. There's got to be some family member bankrolling him.

Even less I believe people on the Canadian subreddits are always complaining it's like $1200/month maximum.

Meanwhile as of recently the average rent for an apartment in Canada is now $2,000. If you take the advice that you should be spending a maximum of 20-25% of your take home on rent than you need to be netting 8K a month or closer to 11-12K gross. So 120,000 annually to be in a reasonable financial shape (60K if you are married).

Based Doug Ford will make sure PPP has a very Cold Winter.

The average rent in Canada has surpassed $2,000 - Mortgage Rates & Mortgage Broker News in Canada

The cost of rent in Canada has been on an uptrend since the pandemic, and in November the average monthly rent reached $2,024.

www.canadianmortgagetrends.com

 

[PhoBingas]

Even less I believe people on the Canadian subreddits are always complaining it's like $1200/month maximum.

It's been like a decade since I was living there and only knew one person on it. They quoted me the 1800$ amount circa 2011, so it may have been clawed back at some point or the guy was bullshitting me.

KoP said PPP was living with his brother Croc in a $3000 a month apartment here: https://kiwifarms.net/threads/kino-casino.110845/page-486#post-13921056

Hmm... The deep lore is he's living with Croc? That may explain how he's paying for the place. Kind of dirty of PPP to let his brother bankroll him but he was letting Surfer pay his way for who knows how long.

It's obviously uncle norm. This new sketchy donation site and streaming service he keeps shilling to everyone... While his uncle works for CSIS... Somehow he is still in that 3k appartment... Really gets those almonds working. While he still has leftovers from signalboot days and the half of the boxing bag he alledgedly got there could be something going on but we will have to wait and see for a couple more months to say for sure.

Weird that a CSIS guy would be bankrolling someone who's super problematic. You have to suckle the axe wound to have a government job in leafland.

 

[Lobster Cult High Priest]

Weird that a CSIS guy would be bankrolling someone who's super problematic. You have to suckle the axe wound to have a government job in leafland.

PPP is a PPPressure release valve for the Dissident Right. Sure he claims to have right wing opinions (or did before his current grift with Tardski) but he never provides a solution he merely criticizes others whether they deserve harsh criticism like America First or if they are actually providing value like the National Justice Party.

So I wouldn't doubt if Uncle Norm is involved.

 

[PhoBingas]

PPP is a PPPressure release valve for the Dissident Right. Sure he claims to have right wing opinions (or did before his current grift with Tardski) but he never provides a solution he merely criticizes others whether they deserve harsh criticism like America First or if they are actually providing value like the National Justice Party.

So I wouldn't doubt if Uncle Norm is involved.

Crazier shit has happened but I'm hesitant to believe that PPP would be working with his uncle CSIS Norm, I'm sure he would have blabbed to someone by now about it. However hamster-boiling Bella's pop was a glownigger, so maybe torturing cats is right up Uncle Norm's alley too.

 

[All becomes gunt]

Crazier shit has happened but I'm hesitant to believe that PPP would be working with his uncle CSIS Norm, I'm sure he would have blabbed to someone by now about it. However hamster-boiling Bella's pop was a glownigger, so maybe torturing cats is right up Uncle Norm's alley too.

The connection with PPP and uncle Norm is there and the least thing to say is that he has at least one direct connection to government agencies... He seems to have mellowed out his hot takes that he obtained from a cursory reading of /pol/ and his previous chat.. I know there is nanobots in my yogurt but i also know that it's super suspicious that this fat retard that keeps shilling these new payment and streaming platforms still has money to support these speedrun levels of weight gain, an at least 3k/month appartment, and a gambling addiction at the same time since he has been running on big deficits for a while now. The donos have dried out and its super blatant that they are fake and along with all the scandals these two are spending their time flinging shit on each other in private while they still have to team up because the tard is in on it and Uncle Norm has taken complete control over the casino in order to ayylawwg Kanye West and complete the gay op of medicating him with lithium as excactly what happened during JMKULTRA to JMK.