🐍 In the Clock Tower KingCobraJFS / Josh Saunders - Amateur musician, YouTube Streamer, wandmaker, and self-proclaimed "sexy goth badboy". Perpetually circling the drain.

[idkcumiguess]

One of my wishes is that the boy was alive and could eventually get into a feud with Styx, they could have battle with their dark powers and talk shit, maybe even have a moment like he did with his imposter KingKobra.

YOU'RE NOT EVEN THE REAL ME DOOD!

 

[Fishnumm]

But at least Cobes wasn’t a deadbeat dad who abused his exes and worshipped an owl demon.

if cobra had a kid he'd love the shit outta them. clint would have probably ended doing a lot of heavy lifting with raising cobra's spawn but cobes would 100% be there for them

 

[The Gentle Abyss]

It may be an odd request, but whoever was archiving @SeizureRobot5000's streams, or Seiz himself; Do y'all have the backup of the last or most recent stream? It was a few months before he had the heart attack. I know it was a more negative/downer stream, but I remember enjoying it still.
Been enjoying going through the Snake Bones and lives in chunks at shift of work and at home for something in the background.

 

[Paul Revere Pantry Raider]

It may be an odd request, but whoever was archiving @SeizureRobot5000's streams, or Seiz himself; Do y'all have the backup of the last or most recent stream? It was a few months before he had the heart attack. I know it was a more negative/downer stream, but I remember enjoying it still.
Been enjoying going through the Snake Bones and lives in chunks at shift of work and at home for something in the background.

His lives are generally left up on youtube.

 

[The Gentle Abyss]

His lives are generally left up on youtube.

I have 90% in my own sequential Playlist, yeah but there's one that disappeared that was either live after or before the Nal special.

 

[Paul Revere Pantry Raider]

I have 90% in my own sequential Playlist, yeah but there's one that disappeared that was either live after or before the Nal special.

Not seeing it on his Patreon ($3 to join anyhow- homosexual as in gay), and his Twitch hasn't been used in years. I thought he streamed elsewhere too, but it isn't Rumble.

 

[somevan]

One of my wishes is that the boy was alive and could eventually get into a feud with Styx, they could have battle with their dark powers and talk shit, maybe even have a moment like he did with his imposter KingKobra.

Styx is an immature 30-something-year-old drunkard who pretends to be a pirate with magical powers, who takes advantage of BPD women, has domestic violence problems, and has substance abuse issues.

My nigga Cobra was a gothic badboy rockstar with real wizard powers (chi balls and weather magic kinda thing) who cared about his BPD gf even when she took advantage of him and almost drove him to suicide, and he could stop drinking at any time because alcohol is a want not a need, trole. Cobra would have mogged Styx's drunk ass.

I miss the boy too much

 

[idkcumiguess]

Cobra would have mogged Styx's drunk ass.

And it would have been peak entertainment the entire time.

 

[Paul Revere Pantry Raider]

Cobra would have mogged Styx's drunk ass.

We saw how the boy handled Warlord. He would have snapped the styk and turned him into a wand, not a mead.

 

[Acoustic Virgin]

He was not originally a shut-in, but years of unchecked enabled addictions, alogs, trolls, and free money turned him into a hermit. If he had a strong male role model who actually spent time with him doing healthy things, not meth with warload or coke and weed with scotty, he might have remained social and active.

Due to Josh's ODD, and his knowledge that as an adult he could do what he wanted, he actually locked Clint out a few times. Clint claims that's how he learned borders, and yes, I believe that statement that he knew he had to accept Josh as he was.

I remember when Mr. Green came to visit him, it was so clear what a NORMAL human male could have done to help Cobes improve, simply by being friendly and normal.
Imagining him getting a social worker to help him do what he needed to be a functional adult, rather than him relying on Clint and Tanis and by extension his paypiggies. He could've led a simple but satisfying life. Maybe not at a dish pit in a bar or cleaning the lobby at Wendy's, he could've focused on the things that made him happy like his music or his wands.

It makes me wonder what Josh was like when he was a child and what level of involvement could have occurred earlier that may have made a difference.

If I understand the chronology right, he wasn't diagnosed with autism until his teens, and then it was just a few short years before he turned 18 and could do whatever he wanted. But before the official diagnosis, it must have been clear that he wasn't normal, right? What did Clint et al do then?

The ODD is so puzzling to me. Josh and Clint really did have a loving, trusting bond, so it seems beyond belief that if Clint were to suggest something -- anything -- Josh's immediate response would just be to shut down completely. But I guess by definition mental disorders aren't rational.

I guess what I'm wondering is: How is it supposed to be done? Josh couldn't have been the only person with ODD (though I'll admit that I've never heard of the condition before I started reading here), so I can't imagine that everyone who suffers from it is living as a Boglim in a filthy trailer... right?

 

[PetiteFeet]

Styx hekken hammered is down the same path. Faggy pirate garb, alcoholism, self destructive. Shitpost videos.

I like charming underdog lolcows, not woman beating faggots that deserve nothing more than destitution.

 

[Blue Miaplacidus]

If I understand the chronology right, he wasn't diagnosed with autism until his teens, and then it was just a few short years before he turned 18 and could do whatever he wanted.

He was 15 playing with puppets and a therapist, 16 official diagnosis, 18 living on his own

 

[Paul Revere Pantry Raider]

I can't imagine that everyone who suffers from it is living as a Boglim in a filthy trailer... right?

Can we stop with the Clint Bad Dad? That's where this always turns. The man loved his son more than any of us might ever realize, even if he was weak and didn't instill Josh with everything he needed. Josh ended up in a trailer (that wasn't filthy when he moved in) because A-Logs and NAL got him thrown out of his apartments. Reddit literally went after him and his jobs - excepting the one that he quit as a dishwasher, several years before. They got him kicked out of bars he used to frequent for company. I don't remember what kind of fit he had, but got himself banned from Albertsons- the one viable store that he would no longer ride bike to go get groceries from because Clint and Tannis brought him a car package at least bi-weekly in the early days. It's when he'd do his cooking videos and waste a week's worth of food for one abhorrent meal.

Josh was diagnosed with a learning disability early, poor eyesight, bad lungs, and the problem of both sets of his parents genes. Usually a kid grows out of ODD, or turns into a murderer. Josh, well, he still fought doing things he didn't want to do, but the worst he did was kill a bug and a lizard, despite the fact he had audible hallucinations. That shit's scary in retrospect.

I can't imagine the pain he went through with people fucking with him 24/7. I had some bad neighbors who went out of the way to be obnoxious, but that didn't even last 2 years. Still, I lost plenty of sleep, had to put cameras and locks on the house that I never expected, et al. This happened to Josh daily, for years.

He curled up as an alcoholic hermit because it was safe. He could still goon to chaturbate (or OF, I don't remember), get drunk as hell, and make the day go by faster when he was passed out and not embracing it. He learned from those around him that it's safer to just cut off yourself from the world than it is to allow yourself to be hurt by it.

Clint mentioned that some guy was tormenting Josh for his clothing coming out of a bathroom. I mean, he looked goofy- but the poor guy couldn't get a break- but he still kept being Josh.

We failed Josh in many, many ways. Were he not an adult and technically capable of taking care of himself (he was during the Stephanie arc), he probably would have done well in a strongly structured environment.

 

[AnOminous]

I guess what I'm wondering is: How is it supposed to be done? Josh couldn't have been the only person with ODD (though I'll admit that I've never heard of the condition before I started reading here), so I can't imagine that everyone who suffers from it is living as a Boglim in a filthy trailer... right?

ODD is a diagnosis only children can have. Adults do not have it. They are labeled as Anti-Social Personality Disorder (that is to say psychos) if they still act that way as adults.

That said, it's a diagnosis often hurled at children who don't mindlessly believe the absolute bullshit adults say all the time.

Anyway whatever Josh was, he wasn't a psychopath. Or a sicko.

 

[Acoustic Virgin]

Can we stop with the Clint Bad Dad?

I'm sorry. I didn't intend to re-initiate the Is Clint Bad Dad loop or even insinuate in any way that he didn't care about Josh. If my post came across that way, that's an error on my part, and I apologize; I'll try to do better.

Of course Clint loved Josh more than anything. That was abundantly clear at all times. He turned his life upside down to learn everything he could about Josh's condition and worked tirelessly to help him throughout his life.

Saying "He did the best he could" is a very kind thing to say to a grieving father at the worst time in his life, but it is also very depressing if you think about it. It implies that Josh not living to see his 35th birthday was the best case scenario. It tells parents of recently diagnosed 15-year-old ODD autists that their children won't live another two decades.
I just can't accept that to be the case; it's too depressing.

I can't help but to think that things didn't have to turn out the way they did if Josh had better/earlier/different mental healthcare. The alternative -- that this was all inevitable -- is just too grim.

 

[ASeabear8952]

It may be an odd request, but whoever was archiving @SeizureRobot5000's streams, or Seiz himself; Do y'all have the backup of the last or most recent stream? It was a few months before he had the heart attack. I know it was a more negative/downer stream, but I remember enjoying it still.
Been enjoying going through the Snake Bones and lives in chunks at shift of work and at home for something in the background.

Yeah I remember it was the stream that was about Cobes’ channel going down, hence the downer feeling. It was Seizure’s second to last stream with the NAL Home Shopping Club one being the last. I found it odd that it both got taken down and that Seizure never got it back up, whether on YouTube or Odysee.

Anyway BPF gave us another relic.

 

[2F5L5XG]

Insane how much this goth badboy still rules my sad troll life from beyond the grave. All this time later and I still use 'that's what's up', 'fuck sickos' and 'yeah buddy' as part of my daily lexicon to the point where they are just part of my speech pattern now.
He pretty much ruined lolcows for me by being a lolcow that I actually liked and rooted for. I haven't been able to really invest in any others since our dark lord took his place at Cobraro's side. Seems like there just isn't anyone else out there filling the niche of the eccentric character with big dreams that Cobra and classic Chris filled anymore.

Can we stop with the Clint Bad Dad? That's where this always turns.

I'll admit that I used to be kind of a Clint bad type and kind of shit on the trailer when the final saga began but eventually I realized that it was pretty much the only option. He couldn't move back home since his authority issues and alcohol dependence would inevitably lead to conflict that would make life hell for Clint and Tannis and left to his own devices he would be dead on the streets within weeks. The trailer tomb was the only place he could put him.
You like to think there is a way to help an addict especially one who is mentally ill but the sad fact is that there usually there isn't and Clint seems to have done his best.

 

[JaneThough]

Amazing thumbnail

I love the way this crops it to make it look like one of those bubble pfps on Microsoft Teams or Zoom when camera is off:

His head is just so perfectly round at that angle.

 

[Fishnumm]

i would move to my least favorite country on earth (france) if that would bring cobra back toobz

 

[Orkeosaurus]

One of my wishes is that the boy was alive and could eventually get into a feud with Styx, they could have battle with their dark powers and talk shit, maybe even have a moment like he did with his imposter KingKobra.

YOU'RE NOT EVEN THE REAL ME DOOD!

styxx is basically cobes if you cranked up the intelligence but dumped the wisdom stat. They both have so much in common tho, including the love for bpd pussy.

but yeah all it would take is one mention about styx touching his exes and cobes would be all "FUCK THAT DUDE he's a sicko dude nah man."