🐍 In the Clock Tower KingCobraJFS / Josh Saunders - Amateur musician, YouTube Streamer, wandmaker, and self-proclaimed "sexy goth badboy". Perpetually circling the drain.

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Agamemnon Busmalis said:
Vodka and other distilled beverages (let alone fucking Everclear) are some dangerous stuff for someone with an alcohol use disorder. It's way more concentrated and allows you to massively scale up your intake, something not feasible with beer or wine.

Not to mention insanely cheap compared to beer or wine...we're talking $10 for a handle of 80-proof vodka.

You'd have to consume almost seven bottles of wine or 30 bottles of beer to equal the same amount of alcohol in a handle of Nikolai and even then you'll never up your BAC as quickly. They knew what they were doing when they kept sending Cobra vodka and Everclear. Just evil.
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Going from beer to vodka is like shoving the stick into the dashboard and going right into a nose dive with alcoholism. A LOT of people do it for those exact reasons, too. Cheaper and more effective. Not many of us can pull back on the stick before permanent damage is done once we're into a pint of vodka a day territory.

If any other kiwis out there are in this spiral Cobra was in right now, you can pull out of it. But please do it with medical help. The DT's are no joke and will cause you years of misery while your brain sorts itself out.
 
If he died because of something as moronic as appendicitis, I'm going to be fucking pissed. Because bro would've had symptoms for a hot minute before succumbing to peritonitis/sepsis. Could've just walked to anyone's trailer next door and said "call 911". And anyone who thinks he wouldn't bc "social ineptitude", is in fantasy land. Ive seen the most backwards, inbred retards show up to the ER for a tummy ache that WASNT anything more than gastritis.

Id "prefer" if he got food poisoning from a counter burger and bc of his constant alcohol intake, all of the emesis and diarrhea led to dysrythmia d/t hypokalemia. Im also partial to this bc it lines up well with his presentation, history and state of death (at least from Homedad Clit). Nobody's pancrease or appendix explodes to the point of death in a day. Those things take time. I have little belief Josh would have been able to ride out the pain for long enough for either of those things to kill him. He cant even bear to deal with a phone, so he smashes them instead. Can't be bothered to brush his teeth. And he just ignores immense abdominal pain, long enough to go septic? Doubt

Id even more prefer if he was still alive. But it is what it is toobz
 
GothicKingFatass said:
If he died because of something as moronic as appendicitis, I'm going to be fucking pissed. Because bro would've had symptoms for a hot minute before succumbing to peritonitis/sepsis. Could've just walked to anyone's trailer next door and said "call 911". And anyone who thinks he wouldn't bc "social ineptitude", is in fantasy land. Ive seen the most backwards, inbred retards show up to the ER for a tummy ache that WASNT anything more than gastritis.

Id "prefer" if he got food poisoning from a counter burger and bc of his constant alcohol intake, all of the emesis and diarrhea led to dysrythmia d/t hypokalemia. Im also partial to this bc it lines up well with his presentation, history and state of death (at least from Homedad Clit). Nobody's pancrease or appendix explodes to the point of death in a day. Those things take time. I have little belief Josh would have been able to ride out the pain for long enough for either of those things to kill him. He cant even bear to deal with a phone, so he smashes them instead. Can't be bothered to brush his teeth. And he just ignores immense abdominal pain, long enough to go septic? Doubt

Id even more prefer if he was still alive. But it is what it is toobz
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All of that to say, it'd be easier to take as a cause of death, more than anything. If my favorite internet guy went down from an appy, thatd just be collasally stupid. It'd be like if his ceiling fan bonked him in the head a little too hard and he had an intracranial hemorrhage and died. Just stupid.
 
Frank Warthog Reynolds said:
I did go back and watch his last Facebook video yesterday and did notice this spot on his stomach. I'm not 100% because it could be a shadow or body hair but it does look like that might be a bulge?

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The area just below the circle also looks a bit bulgey, and it's in the same spot as I remember getting swollen and distended when I had appendicitis.
 
datura_binge said:
As a father myself, I cannot imagine what this man is going through. It goes to show that even if your kid ends up going off the rails entirely, you still love them. You love them enough to where after they die, you are willing to make a video like that for people you don't even know or care about. Wild. Very very sad.
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Just want to add here, Josh wasnt off the rails, he did have the freedom to make choices and they were stupid and retarded at times, but he absolutely did well on his own. I keep bringing it up (because its true) but the social media and youtubers who clip his shit really change the view for the majority of watchers.

He kept his apartment for years, both of them even with the constant harassment, he might have done some stupid shit to them but they were tidy (not normal tidy). He did some stupid shit in them a given, but thats who he was. Clint supported him the best he could and their relationship as up and down as it was, was very close and they loved each other.
 
Barbarus 3 said:
Also looking back its really baffling how a welfare check wasnt made when people have done it over the years for the most minor of shit. Guess because it wasnt live they didn't give a fuck.
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Agreed. I mean, I for one don't condone any kind of poop-touching and remember the many many months of time when some glass-tapper would call the cops on Cobra just for passing out on stream and snoring. Which to me was kind of just a lower-tier of swatting; I doubt anyone really thought "oh I'm gonna save his life by calling the cops" (I mean, why not EMS you shitbirds?)

Anyway, not trying to crap on everyone's remembrance parade but as a very long time Cobrologist there is a weird disconnect going on here. A week ago it was all "lol look at this bloated dumb fuck" and now everyone is being all lovey-dovey. Which is fine... but don't pretend you all didn't laugh at his rotten teeth, his obsession with rape and sickos and kids, and his years-long, violent alcoholism. One of the funniest things I've ever seen him do was scream that he was going to smoke a ciggy to death after absolutely biffing it behind a chair. And that was part of his disease process, unfortunately.

Yes, some weens probably helped kill him by sending him Everclear (and earlier, duster) but it strangely does a disservice to our boy to suddenly pretend like he wasn't absolutely fucked in the head in so many ways for his entire life.

Speaking to the larger overall Cobes community and not necessarily to just farmers: Don't whitewash KingCobraJFS you turds. Don't you dare disrespect him like that.
 
Barbarus 3 said:
Just want to add here, Josh wasnt off the rails, he did have the freedom to make choices and they were stupid and retarded at times, but he absolutely did well on his own. I keep bringing it up (because its true) but the social media and youtubers who clip his shit really change the view for the majority of watchers.

He kept his apartment for years, both of them even with the constant harassment, he might have done some stupid shit to them but they were tidy (not normal tidy). He did some stupid shit in them a given, but thats who he was. Clint supported him the best he could and their relationship as up and down as it was, was very close and they loved each other.
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I was mainly referring to the alcohol etc. But tbh I would also describe his choice of careers/how he made money as being "off the rails"; I don't mean insane or anything. But I don't think anyone would argue that the majority of choices he made were at the very least very misguided. He was also very stubborn, as Clint said, so really there wasn't much that could be done. A combination of strong will and stubbornness can lead a person to be great or it can lead a person to make a lot of questionable life choices and then be unwilling to admit they need to change any of them. Also didn't help that some of his "fans" were absolutely driving him down the wrong direction.
 
GothicKingFatass said:
Nobody's pancrease or appendix explodes to the point of death in a day. Those things take time. I have little belief Josh would have been able to ride out the pain for long enough for either of those things to kill him.
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Acute alcoholic pancreatitis can become fatal within 48-72 hours if left untreated. You'd think you'd call 9-11, yes, because that's a shitload of pain. But that's the case for both pancreatitis and appendicitis.
 
Lilacs On Fire said:
I'm not gonna get into gross detail but I'm waking up next day from Wendy's and two drink combos and holy shit I see how this killed him.
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I tried that Wednesday meal from Wendy’s that Cobra had on stream not that long ago, and that raven’s blood frosty was legit. I didn’t really care for the dipping sauces though. Seeing what Cobes was eating on stream would occasionally inspire me to get some of what he was eating, minus the food hack components.
 
datura_binge said:
I was mainly referring to the alcohol etc. But tbh I would also describe his choice of careers/how he made money as being "off the rails"; I don't mean insane or anything. But I don't think anyone would argue that the majority of choices he made were at the very least very misguided. He was also very stubborn, as Clint said, so really there wasn't much that could be done. A combination of strong will and stubbornness can lead a person to be great or it can lead a person to make a lot of questionable life choices and then be unwilling to admit they need to change any of them. Also didn't help that some of his "fans" were absolutely driving him down the wrong direction.
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Well the careers thing is another story, he lost his second job because of his own actions, sure the calls to his job didn't help but he did that on his own, yeah thats off the rails.

The wand business and merch however wasnt. As stupid as it was, he was selling wands to people who genuinely wanted them, shitty shirts and the like, it was a job for him and allowed him to live how he wanted. It contributed to his decline for sure, but thats just what addiction does to you and it amplified the prices and we know how what this eventually led to. But the career in itself wasnt to blame and it was perverted into something bad as the quality and effort declined and the prices rose as he lost interest.
 
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