🐍 In the Clock Tower KingCobraJFS / Josh Saunders - Amateur musician, YouTube Streamer, wandmaker, and self-proclaimed "sexy goth badboy". Perpetually circling the drain.

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Didn’t get to post due to the site being down. Rewatched both documentaries excluding that faggot zoomer’s one, and drank a good few Cobra’s Jack. I suppose the Cobra’s blood is destined for later tonight.
 
Even in death Pappa Nips is in denial about what a useless piece of shit that slobbering oyster of a son he had was. Lying, scamming, molesting a retard girl, stealing, torturing animals. Fuck him, im glad it hurt on the way out. Go suck ozzys cock in hell faggot. TMDWU.

This is caspercobrastomper level insanity right here.

It still seems like a real stretch to prosecute a mostly disorganized group of trolls for indirectly causing Cobes' death, and the last thing anyone would want is to put criminal culpability on the "tragedy of the commons" because that seems to be opening a can of worms right there.

They didn't cause it they just greatly accelerated it. And they were a lot more organized than you'd think.

If any good can come out of this hopefully it will be liquor being banned from home delivery. Or at least have the purchaser have the same address as the delivery.
 
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For all you discussing whether alogs will pay. It just doesn't fit into a criminal statute. Wyoming does have a statute for drug-induced homicide. But it applies specifically when an adult delivers an illicit substance to a minor, resulting in the death of the minor. (Wyoming Statutes § 6-2-10)

I also don't see there being any civil liability because everything was voluntary on cobes' part. This is my world. I do tort defense. If you wanted to bring a claim for negligence against an alog, a completely valid defense would be contributory negligence. Cobra repeatedly said he knew he was hurting himself with the lifestyle. He didn't care. I don't see what other cause of action you could bring. Wrongful death? Same defense. You would have to work really hard to make an argument about cobra's actions adding up to more than half of the cause... although I am not sure if Wyoming has the same contributory negligence law as my state. But regardless I just never see it happening.
 
Wasn't he complaining of pain days before the final episode? This wouldn't be a big deal for a notorious whiny dude, but Cobes had the pain tolerance of a pit bull. If he was complaining of pain, it had to be REAL pain.
Yes. The last video he made was just to tell people he was really sick, said he was vomiting, diarrhea, in a lot of pain, fever. He also said he’d get through it. Next update - he’s dead. He also had unusual posture, movement in the video due to the pain and inability to get comfortable in his chair all the symptoms lines up with appendicitis. It lines up with a stomach bug and food poisoning too but ppl rarely die of those.

The video made ppl suspect poisoning by the Bog Witch or food poisoning via old Wendy’s chicken sandwich. I guess poisoning isn’t outside of the realm of possibility but appendicitis seems more likely. You feel like you want to die with food poisoning but rarely do. Vomiting and diarrhea just don’t make people think appendicitis and assume more common digestive illnesses.
 
I mixed red wine with coconut water to honour our boy, I call it "Blood Lagoon". It wasn't terrible but it practically has no flavour to it, almost like stale water.
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Hopefully Clint gets the boy cremated so his cemetery plot doesn't get fucked with and he gets a badass green and black or big ol Cobra urn for the boy.
 
For all you discussing whether alogs will pay. It just doesn't fit into a criminal statute. Wyoming does have a statute for drug-induced homicide. But it applies specifically when an adult delivers an illicit substance to a minor, resulting in the death of the minor. (Wyoming Statutes § 6-2-10)

I also don't see there being any civil liability because everything was voluntary on cobes' part. This is my world. I do tort defense. If you wanted to bring a claim for negligence against an alog, a completely valid defense would be contributory negligence. Cobra repeatedly said he knew he was hurting himself with the lifestyle. He didn't care. I don't see what other cause of action you could bring. Wrongful death? Same defense. You would have to work really hard to make an argument about cobra's actions adding up to more than half of the cause... although I am not sure if Wyoming has the same contributory negligence law as my state. But regardless I just never see it happening.
It did occur to me last night that there was a reason why his phone was destroyed, like the previous few times. Someone made him break his phone. Every single time ive been under the impression its someone harassing him and making him lose his shit leading to a smashed phone.

If that was the case, whoever did that left josh without a way of communication in the last days of his life when he probably needed it most. Might not be criminal but it would be interesting to what extent someone harassed him for that phone to smash.

For anyone believing that he just clumsily breaks phones, youre an idiot and have been listening to youtubers and reddit too much. The phones we know of have nearly every single time been broken due to someone triggering him into doing it.
 
Yes. The last video he made was just to tell people he was really sick, said he was vomiting, diarrhea, in a lot of pain, fever. He also said he’d get through it. Next update - he’s dead. He also had unusual posture, movement in the video due to the pain and inability to get comfortable in his chair all the symptoms lines up with appendicitis. It lines up with a stomach bug and food poisoning too but ppl rarely die of those.

The video made ppl suspect poisoning by the Bog Witch or food poisoning via old Wendy’s chicken sandwich. I guess poisoning isn’t outside of the realm of possibility but appendicitis seems more likely. You feel like you want to die with food poisoning but rarely do. Vomiting and diarrhea just don’t make people think appendicitis and assume more common digestive illnesses.
I did go back and watch his last Facebook video yesterday and did notice this spot on his stomach. I'm not 100% because it could be a shadow or body hair but it does look like that might be a bulge?

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It did occur to me last night that there was a reason why his phone was destroyed, like the previous few times. Someone made him break his phone. Every single time ive been under the impression its someone harassing him and making him lose his shit leading to a smashed phone.

If that was the case, whoever did that left josh without a way of communication in the last days of his life when he probably needed it most. Might not be criminal but it would be interesting to what extent someone harassed him for that phone to smash.

For anyone believing that he just clumsily breaks phones, youre an idiot and have been listening to youtubers and reddit too much. The phones we know of have nearly every single time been broken due to someone triggering him into doing it.
Texting someone doesn't create a duty. While tragic, there's just nothing to base a claim on. Perhaps I'm not creative enough, or too defense oriented. There's also the completely separate problem of actually having the will to track people down and fund the litigation. You think Clint would be able to handle the spotlight? Because everything little thing he did or didn't do is going to be thrown in his face by the defense.
 
The video made ppl suspect poisoning by the Bog Witch or food poisoning via old Wendy’s chicken sandwich. I guess poisoning isn’t outside of the realm of possibility but appendicitis seems more likely. You feel like you want to die with food poisoning but rarely do. Vomiting and diarrhea just don’t make people think appendicitis and assume more common digestive illnesses.
Had Cobra had his appendix out before? Like is that known or confirmed?

I did go back and watch his last Facebook video yesterday and did notice this spot on his stomach. I'm not 100% because it could be a shadow or body hair but it does look like that might be a bulge?
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My only input is self-experience with almost dying to appendicitis and I remember acutely how it felt to feel my appendix explode, I can tell you now I didn't just tuck myself up in bed and sleep I was screaming the entire time until my surgery like hours later (Thanks slow ass NHS). It doesn't discount that maybe Cobes got super wasted, passed out, had his appendix explode and he was far too gone for him to wake up or react to it. But I figured not many people really know what it feels like and the term "explode" is literally what it felt like, I would liken it to literally feeling like a tiny bomb just went off in your abdomen area and for hours onward you're in constant agony and pain, it does also wipe you for energy and the motivation to do anything more than just lie there and die though as I had to be shouted at by a nurse to finally do certain things to get prepared for surgery as I just wanted to give up.
 
ght not be criminal but it would be interesting to what extent someone harassed him for that phone to smash.
He has been smashing his phone for the last 5 years if not longer, he is in the deep double digits of broken phones. He is retarded, and was black out drunk most of the time. He did not even smash it because of the troll text, but because Siri could not understand his drunken mumbling as he used almost exclusively talk-to-text.

He was bullied. But he was also an extremely dumb retard who was wasted 24/7 and he believed inanimate objects were sentient and fucking with him.
 
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