🐮 Lolcow Jeffrey Leibowitz / Not Dead Yet

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Marche said:
In terms of threat to humans id say the mountain lion is probably about the same as our Salt water crocs, we seem to get more deaths from salties compared to lions simply because the Northern territory is packed full of both Salties and aboriginals being Rama rama.
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Abos being rama rama to me is scarier than any large predator.

That big dumb bird you speak of, the cassowary, as far as I can tell is incredibly dangerous if you're in their territory. If you mean emu then we have different experiences with them. Were I live in the US people use them as guard animals. They put up a good show but I've punched one for annoying me without consequence.

Australia is more diverse then I realized. As is the US. Despite North America's vast ecological and environmental diversity there's one threat that appears in all 49 (fuck Hawaii) states.

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LemonParty said:
I won't post pics at the risk of doxing myself but I come up on rattlers all the time. We're probably in different professions but in mine a good cowboy boot is sufficient enough to stop a babies' strike. The bigger ones are old enough to give fare warning. Even then, like you said, you can step right over them and they likely won't strike.

I've been bit once by a baby while jumping over a fallen tree and the boot leather handled it fine. The big snakes who can obviously bite through the leather have never given me issue.
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They were a big part of my former career and other than a few big for their britches juveniles, I’ve luckily never been lunged at by them. I was tagged by a yearling cottonmouth during my first week and I think one of the worst things to it besides being bitten and injected with fairly potent venom is this horrible metallic taste that doesn’t go away.

Cowboy boots are definitely better if you can wear them. Genuine leather gloves with moderate thickness is pretty standard PPE and were my go to for flipping sheet metal.
 
This may strike some of you as harsh but I believe everyone who keeps venomous snakes in their house should get bit and die.
 
Marche said:
This is not actually true, We have a lot of pythons, our largest land predator is a dog and ok in the rivers we have crocs and bullsharks but so does America. America also has plenty of deadly snakes, probably even more than Australia, you also have spiders and huge land animals like moose and deer which are comparable to kangaroos and probably more dangerous with their antlers.
And bears, you guys got bears and wolves and big cats and rabies.

Australia is safe with beautiful wild life, look at all our mammals and Lizards.
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We don't have Crocs. We have Gators. Which are to Crocs what a Shitzu is to a wolf.

There are not a lot of extremely dangerous poisonous animals in North America. Rattlers are designed by nature to give a warning. Coral Snakes are incredibly rare and colored to be noticed and avoided. Like gators the sharks we have tend to be in the smaller ranges.

We do have a number of venomous Spiders. But even the "deadly" ones are typically only so in extreme cases of allergic reaction. For most its just a really painful bite. Like Black Widows and Brown Recluse.

Correct me if I am wrong, but the only part of North America with no poisonous native wildlife is Long Island, NY.
 
Any lawyers around? Can I legally add to my organ donor card "Don't give my kidneys to Jeffrey Leibowitz under any circumstances"
 
LemonParty said:
Abos being rama rama to me is scarier than any large predator.

That big dumb bird you speak of, the cassowary, as far as I can tell is incredibly dangerous if you're in their territory. If you mean emu then we have different experiences with them. Were I live in the US people use them as guard animals. They put up a good show but I've punched one for annoying me without consequence.

Australia is more diverse then I realized. As is the US. Despite North America's vast ecological and environmental diversity there's one threat that appears in all 49 (fuck Hawaii) states.

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How are abbos related to a american retard getting bitten by a illegal snake?
 
Manimal House said:
I don't like snakes, I consider them to be the biggest assholes of the animal kingdom. Never gotten along with one and I don't see the point of having them as pets.

That being said: if this guy smuggled in a bunch of dangerous snakes for the purpose of grifting while taking terrible care of them (just so they could get put down), that sucks and they didn't deserve that.
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Well that's just dumb, everyone knows that WASPS are the biggest assholes of the animal kingdom...

Anyways

Snakes can be amazing critters, and fun pets... but don't keep venomous ones, just... just fucking don't, that's fucking dumb.

Even dogs, quite possibly the most domesticated animal, will sometimes bite even friendly people.

Keeping a venomous animal is just asking for something to inevitably go wrong. Particularly because most "pet owners" can barely handle a goddamn goldfish.

And no that does not mean it is okay to keep defanged snakes, mutilating the animal is not fucking cool fag.

Just don't own venomous animals, you want a snake? Get a python of some sort.
 
TractorGirl said:
The good thing about Australia being huge is that we have lots of bitey killey things, but they’re (mostly) spread out. Like where I live, there's only a few things like red backs, brown snakes, red belly black snakes (rarely). Never seen a crocodile in my life, it’s at least a 5 hour drive to anywhere with a jelly fish, a shark or any killer bastard that lives in the water. Dingos are at least 700 kilometres away. Only a few Roos around here too, they’re more populated an hour or so from here. So yeah we do have a few things that will kill you, but they’re not all waiting at your front door.
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Yep we only get brown snakes here and thats mostly because I live rural in a small town surrounded by barley farms.
Only kangaroos I ever see are small dead ones that trucks hit at night, most I can really say is a dude died from a shark attack last year at a beach 2 hours drive but even that place is very very remote and basically open ocean. Like at that point in this area you know there are sharks its basically their breeding ground and they get very active during summer so its kinda your own fault at that point.
 
AltisticRight said:
I see this garbage animal abuse slop pushed on social media all the time and barely anyone seems to care. I wonder if the nips are paying for them. There's plenty photos of the most average old neighbourhood all over Asia but apparently Japanese ones are special which gets a lot of attention. Trust me, you don't want to live in those old dilapidated houses. I've lived in one, they're pretty bad.
Oh yeah. Follow the money.
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Maybe some owl autist can go and ID those birds. How many aren't native to Japan, thus likely imported illegally? Edit: the species was actually presented above each owl like some kind of fucking dog tag, how sick and soulless.
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We might need a "pet tuber" thread.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=OTzTpY840WU
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Paging @DrNow.
 
The Wokest said:
When it comes to Japan a lot of those go to the "animal themed cafes"
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Asian Barred Owlet: Native to Southeast Asia (ie NOT Japan)
Ferruginous Pygmy Owl: Native to parts of southern USA, Mexico and greater central and south America (also not Japan)
Tropical Screech Owl: South American (not Japan)
Pallid Scops Owl: middle east to Central Asia
Idian Scops Owl: South Asia, ie mostly India
Southern Boobook: Australian (therefore definitely illegally smuggled out)
Burrowing Owl: America
Chaco Owl: Argentina, Bolivia and Paraguay
Spectacled Owl: Central and South America
Tawny Owl: Europe
White Faced Scopes Owl: African
Mottled Owl: Central and South America
Spotted Eagle Owl: Africa
Spotted little Owl: Parts of America
Barn Owl: Very common, but not Japan
Albino Barn Owl: same as above
Brown Wood Owl: China and India

None of these owls are native to Japan. Owls are nocturnal of course, being in broad daylight and subjected to these greasy fucking humans twiddling their hands, that's just atrocious. Owls are also quite dirty, they hunt animals that are considered dirty like rats, carrying many pathogens. They're quite literally the rats and bats of avian. I don't get why anyone's allowed to touch the bird, don't most birds form an oil layer on their feathers to protect themselves? There's patrons handling the animals without protection, get scratched and they might just be the patient zero of a new avian virus, call it fukushima-nagasaki-notenough-24. I would like to assume that in order to hold an animal like this, you'd wear protection and a proper falconer handles the bird. Similar to how eagles or even bigger domestic birds like cockatoos gets handled in zoos.

Owls
Order: Strigiformes Family: Strigidae

The owls are small to large solitary nocturnal birds of prey. They have large forward-facing eyes and ears, a hawk-like beak and a conspicuous circle of feathers around each eye called a facial disk.

Collared scops-owl, Otus lettia (A)
Japanese scops-owl, Otus semitorques
Ryūkyū scops-owl, Otus elegans
Oriental scops-owl, Otus sunia
Eurasian eagle-owl, Bubo bubo (A)
Snowy owl, Bubo scandiacus (A)
Blakiston's fish-owl, Ketupa blakistoni
Ural owl, Strix uralensis
Long-eared owl, Asio otus
Short-eared owl, Asio flammeus
Boreal owl, Aegolius funereus
Northern boobook, Ninox japonica
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Looking up opinions regarding these cafes, I discovered one that had some other animals too, like one lone capybara (gigantic aquatic rat) which are very social animals. If you isolate one out, they'll probably just die to depression.

Truly despicable. To not sound like gay bleeding heart liberal, I'll just queue up some cat videos instead.
 
pink cigarettes said:
Nobody gives a shit about vivisection in China.
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Since the CPC doesn't care, just don't get caught. Animal rights activists will strip the freak down in broad daylight and custom order banners to shame them. We should do that to all zoosadists.
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(Dogfucker in Chengdu.)

Taiwan had a racoon cafe (wtf you gotta be kidding me) shut down.
Coons who can fuck up shitbulls with the intelligence of a 6-year-old shouldn't be leashed and put on display. They'll fuck you up over a slight.
Unlike their bigger neighbour, Taiwan has some pretty good animal protection laws.
 
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Okay so I found this retard called Mudan
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It seems like this faggot in his rush to clout chase decided to ignore why all the other "I live in Japan uwu" retards who usually don't go to animal cafes other than a cat ones don't wanna touch these places.
Mudan doesn't understand this? It's so easy! Why is no one making content around these places!? Literally free clicks dewd! this is so wrong... :lossmanjack:

His mission is to review ALL animal cafes, in that video this retard himself admits he finds the place "sketchy" but that doesn't stop him from keep on doing his youtuber haha look at this cool place bit.
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Okay there's no fucking way they got a motherfucking binturong there, that's like 100% proof they buy trafficked animals.
Also there's a free handling snake cafe too! God can they get a taipan so everyone who goes to those places ends up like Jeff?

I know clout goblins will clout goblin, I guess creating content about "X thing that is in Japan" is hard when everyone else bigger and more talented has already covered ever single anime/weebshit place out there, so you have to give publicity to the most twisted exploitative business.
Nigga, just review soapland or a hostess bar, you're already scrapping the bottom of the barrel.
 
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The Wokest said:
Also there's a free handling snake cafe too! God can they get a taipan so everyone who goes to those places ends up like Jeff?
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That's actually a good idea, they all get bit and the market diminishes, the gene pool also improves with their retard spawn three feet under. Hope all the antivenom is gone so the next idiot clout goblin to get bit dies a very painful death.

I was able to find a video of a guy saving birds from these "owl cafes". The video itself is gone, however, I was glad to see an archive.
Here's a local copy.

If there's something all these retard sites (Kiwi Farms, Reddit, 4chan, soyjak.party etc.) can agree on, it's "fuck animal abusers".
 
Another Bozo on the bus said:
While I don’t doubt that’s one reason why the snakes had to be destroyed, the official reason boils down to Leibowitz’s father gaining custody of the snakes, asking local keepers, collections and rescues if they could take them, and them all saying no due to health reasons. Basically, anyone taking on a bunch of random reptiles needs health records so they can properly assess the risk/cost to their finances and own animals. It fucking sucks that the snakes had to be euthanized but it is a huge ask to foist that many animals on an individual or organization and have them take on so much added risk.
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You have to quarantine new snakes away from your collection until you're certain they have no communicable herp diseases. With hots (venomous snakes), that quarantine room needs to be sealed off and locked to make sure that no random person can get in and no escaped snake can get out. (And you'd be amazed at the cracks a little snake like that baby Taipan can sneak through). If you're an active facility, you probably already have a quarantine room set up, and there's a pretty good chance you've got a very expensive and hard to replace new snake chilling in there.

I'd assume that any snake I got from an idiot like Leibowitz had a bunch of contagious diseases that could take out a big chunk of my collection. I'd also assume that several would have issues that required specialized veterinary care. Surprisingly, not many vets want to examine Taipans and Gaboon Vipers, and those who do are likely to charge extra for hazardous duty. So we're talking an enormous expense and hassle for a few "free" venomous snakes.

t. Have owned non-venomous snakes and have acquaintances who keep venomous snakes.
 
Culled said:
In his latest stream Jeff announces that he is done with venomous reptiles
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He probably just has to say that so they’ll put him on the kidney list.

He’s gonna be spending a LOT more time in that bed in the dialysis treatment room. Of course they’ll only dialyze him for about 4 hours a day, 3 days a week, and that’s compared to the 24/7 kidney function he used to have.
 
Marche said:
Yep we only get brown snakes here and thats mostly because I live rural in a small town surrounded by barley farms.
Only kangaroos I ever see are small dead ones that trucks hit at night, most I can really say is a dude died from a shark attack last year at a beach 2 hours drive but even that place is very very remote and basically open ocean. Like at that point in this area you know there are sharks its basically their breeding ground and they get very active during summer so its kinda your own fault at that point.
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That’s the thing, we have plenty of dangerous things but you know they’re dangerous and you know their behaviours and how to avoid them.
This is why I keep sensible pets like Gus.
 

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