🐮 Lolcow Jeffrey Leibowitz / Not Dead Yet

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I remember watching some of this dude’s videos a long time ago because they popped up on my Instagram feed when I was scrolling through videos of servals. Most of the time it was very clear that he didn’t have any clue what he was doing and he just kept it inside (albeit away from the rest of his animals) and treated it like a normal house cat that eats expensive meat all the time. It was a very beautiful cat and it’s horrible that its life got cut short because of it had an retarded owner.

Anyway, I went through the old Swaggers the cat Instagram page. None of it is really notable, the only thing I could find was this video.

The video is very uninteresting and just consists of one of Leibowitz's students preforming a rap he wrote. The biggest thing I noticed though is it shows that he's a schoolteacher, and one presumably teaching in the Florence area. This is corroborated by an article from South Carolina based newspaper FITSNews (Archive) that refers to him as a school teacher.

I also managed to find 2 LinkedIn profiles for Jeff, both of which make me question if he's mentally sound enough to work as a teacher, let alone own fucking venomous snakes.

The first has a profile picture and some other random shit linked to it. (Link) (No archive because linkedin doesn't let you archive it)
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Jeff lists an absurd amount of skills and accomplishments about himself, most of which he has yet to demonstrate at all in his videos or online activity. For starters, his "Services" section lists him as a Spanish teacher with 40 years of experience as a reporter for the New York Times. The funny part is he did write articles for the NYT, but they aren't linked on this LinkedIn for some reason, nor is it listed under experience.
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He worked for Danville Public Schools in Virginia until recently, and he worked as a social studies teacher teaching Spanish. He also claims to know Arabic, Spainish, and Persian, and have degrees from Princeton, Harvard, SUNY Stony Brook, and Duke.
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His second LinkedIn is a lot more notable, however. Namely, it shows that Jeff did, in fact, work for the NYT, and he provided a list of some the articles he wrote.
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Some of my NYTimes pieces.


http://www.nytimes.com/1995/06/01/nyregion/woman-won-t-be-evicted.html (This was a small follow up piece for previous article above, covering the bank's reversal because of exposure in article above)



No link is provided to a full list of articles he wrote by the NYT and I can't why he stopped writing for them.

I haven't bothered looking too much into everything on here primarily just because I really can't find much else from just googling his name over and over, but there's definitely a lot of stuff here that could be looked more into if an OP on Jeff were to eventually be written. How you go from writing for the New York Times to living in the shithole known as Florence and teaching Spanish to albino high schoolers is beyond me.
 
mindlessobserver said:
As painful as it is these retards basically necessitate government regulation. Keeping a venomous snake should require a permit, that includes as a requirement mandatory training. For the permit to be valid, the keeper needs to pass a basic test, show proof of medical insurance and keep in date Antivenin on hand at all times. Subject to inspection by the State Agriculture Department.
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I see absolute morons like this and think people should need to have loicenses to keep animals, then I wonder why we should even allow these people to reproduce. Because the only reason we have retards at all is we're allowing retards to reproduce. Why are retards allowed to reproduce?

Then I turn into literal Hitler and start gassing.
 
AnOminous said:
Why do these people hoard snakes to the point they're forced to keep them in racks in shit like Tupperware where the snake can't even stretch out to full length or explore an environment and is basically existing in sensory deprivation?
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Because they collect them like other people would collect stamps and it makes storing them and breeding them for profit easier on the person who keeps them. I'm not a fan and I don't get it, but it's not uncommon especially with snakes that move around very little and come in a ton of different colorations like Ball Pythons.
 
A Bit Concerning said:
Jeff lists an absurd amount of skills and accomplishments about himself, most of which he has yet to demonstrate at all in his videos or online activity. For starters, his "Services" section lists him as a Spanish teacher with 40 years of experience as a reporter for the New York Times. The funny part is he did write articles for the NYT, but they aren't linked on this LinkedIn for some reason, nor is it listed under experience.
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Why does the Playboy Mansion need a shepherd?
 
Culled said:
Because they collect them like other people would collect stamps and it makes storing them and breeding them for profit easier on the person who keeps them. I'm not a fan and I don't get it, but it's not uncommon especially with snakes that move around very little and come in a ton of different colorations like Ball Pythons.
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It's disgusting and it's evil. Animals, even snakes, are not inanimate objects like stamps. They do not just exist for the benefit of humans. They deserve to exist in the conditions they would have in the wild. It's reprehensible to keep them in fucking Tupperware. It doesn't matter to me if they can literally exist in such conditions, I consider those conditions vile.

Even snakes deserve to live in something like their natural conditions.

I hate freaks like this Leibowitz faggot so goddamn much. I hope he dies in agony.
 
LemonParty said:
King Snakes won't even bite people. It's not part of their defense instinct. You can literally just pick them up, hold them for a minute, and let them on their way to do snake things.

You're probably trolling but in the event you're not then you're a Nick Rekieta level of small animal killing psycho.
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NegaBoogie1488 said:
That requires you to go outside and touch grass first.
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Free the Pedos said:
That is retarded. Why would you kill a snake who’s harmless to humans but eats other snakes?
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LemonParty said:
Damn it's super weird that you don't have some kind of Internet search feature that would let you know what you're killing. Best be safe and just kill all snakes. Perhaps they're native and beneficial, kill them all because theirs NO WAY OF KNOWING whether they're venomous or not.
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So, this is where you need to remember that not everyone who writes in English on the internet is American.

This is what we call a king snake in Australia, where @Dyn myself, and several other individuals who've commented on this thread reside:

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Also known as a king brown, or mulga snake. This fucker genuinely frightens me more than a fierce snake; not only is it much larger, much more physically powerful than a taipan, it's much, much meaner and much more aggressive. A taipan will only bite you if you really fuck with it. The king will chase you down. It keeps grudges and wants you and your entire family line to end.

Now, this adorable little fucker is a tree snake:

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These are a tropical species and I don't know if Dyn has these in his area, so I am just using it as an example.

Tree snakes are highly variable; they can be bright green, a stunning blue, or... a really boring brown. See above. They're shy and don't want to bite you, but if they do, it won't be all that bad. They have enough venom to kill little frogs, it's not particularly dangerous to us apes.

Now, let me introduce you to this arsehole:

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When they're adults they're more heavily built and bulky, but as juveniles, they are slender, lightly built, and rather non descriptive. This is an eastern brown, otherwise known as ohshitohshitohshitimgunnadie.

There are many colourful, distinctive snakes in Australia, but unfortunately the majority of dangerous species are unhelpful shades of brown and are difficult to identify from non dangerous species, at least if you've not put some serious work into learning your different species. While @Dyn is an arsehole, reaching for the shovel for anything that isn't immediately and obviously a python is not entirely unreasonable.
 
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AnOminous said:
I hope the rest of this faggot's life is pure agony.
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I'm also not buying the "they are just fine in the box" argument from some around here either.

This thread has given me a crash course on Snakes for sure, and one of the data point that keeps coming up is venomous snakes in particular are a significant evolutionary deviation from constrictor snakes.

Constrictor snakes are a older form that emerged first and are ambush predators that like to hang out in dense forests and not move too much. Their muscles are evolved for their primary method of subdoing prey. Constricting. Not moving around or heaven forbid chasing prey.

Vipers on the other hand are a more modern evolutionary form that emerged to compete with mammals in savannahs and deserts primarily. They got rid of the constricting muscles in favor of muscles that allowed them to travel long distances, sometimes at rapid speed so they can catch mammals on the move when hunting, or defend themselves from mammalian predators like mussolids and felids.

What this says to me is that keeping a viper in a box is like keeping a wolf in a dog crate. They don't like it. Can't like it. Comparing an Inland Taipan to a Ball Boa is like comparing a coyote to a pomeranian dog.
 
I'm excited for this asshole to die of renal failure. Keeping a poisonous snake is a fuck-around-and-find-out maneuver to begin with, and this seems like one of the dumbest ones to have. It's too bad 9 vials of anti-venom and I assume $1 million or more of treatment and dialysis will be involved in keeping this evolutionary dead end going.
 
Another Bozo on the bus said:
This is the topic that gets me to finally stop lurking and make a damn account!

Couldn’t reply/quote to AnOnimous’ question regarding: “Why do people keep so many snakes in tupperware?” But for anyone else reading who is also wondering, it’s a contentious source of debate in the exotic community.

There are people that take the stance that, when animals like snakes have all their needs comfortably met, they’re “happier” (in reptiles, “happiness” is closer to “stress-free,” since they don’t have the same kind of structures in their brains that process emotion the way mammals and birds do) just being in a box where there’s limited stimuli. The snakes don’t have to go actively hunt or move to places where prey might roam, so being confined is supposedly a non-issue.
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The majority of ball python enthusiasts I’ve encountered have convinced themselves that the best way to keep them is in a rack system 20+ at a time with just paper towel, a water bowl and a hide. They’d get angry at the suggestion that all reptiles can benefit from UVB radiation and all of them can soak it up with no ill effects. I keep a single gopher snake and despite the care sheets 13 years ago saying they don’t need UVB, has grown to have a lot better sandy beiges, browns and blacks than any I’ve seen of his species kept without it. From my experience with the hobby, it really is just a bunch of normalized animal hoarding that’s seen as repulsive to outsiders.

I’m not 100% against racks, for the record. I like the idea of using them to breed small colonies of feeder insects, but they’re atrocious for reptiles.
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Then you get the winning combination of an adrenaline junkie + hoarder and wind up with guys like Jeff, Tiger King, and every other weirdo in states like Florida or the Dakotas who have a “private zoo” where you can take a picture with a depressed lion, hold a de-taloned eagle or have tea with an obese chimpanzee.

Liebowitz’s entire livelihood and sense of worth hinged on getting an “omg wow that’s so dangerous” reaction from people. When the cobra flaring its hood becomes pedestrian, you get a mamba. When the mamba starts looking a little slow, you get a Gaboon viper. When the Gaboon’s fangs are looking kind of small, you get the taipan.

If Jeff does pull through and make a recovery, he probably won’t change a damn thing about himself. Might even sue for all the snakes that were euthanized. He will certainly double down on his “What, me worry?” dipshit attitude.
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None of them ever learn a lesson, there were so many people back in 2017 that I remember constantly showing off to impressionable teenagers on facebook for whatever reasons. Viperkeeper and Tom Crotchfield (before marrying his daughter-wife) would get on these platforms preaching about how dangerous it is while doing worse. I remember seeing that one guy in Thailand constantly posting his king cobra and those two were constantly dick waving at him.
Owlbear said:
I'm excited for this asshole to die of renal failure. Keeping a poisonous snake is a fuck-around-and-find-out maneuver to begin with, and this seems like one of the dumbest ones to have. It's too bad 9 vials of anti-venom and I assume $1 million or more of treatment and dialysis will be involved in keeping this evolutionary dead end going.
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I could understand keeping them, but the blatant refusal to use PPE or safety measures solidifies it being a fuck around and find out move.
 
TheNazgulKing said:
Do an image search for "rattlesnake bite." You will probably survive a bite, but it will involve horrific swelling, necrosis, and general unpleasantness. The only venomous American snake I'd even think about keeping is a Copperhead. That bite won't be pretty, but I'd have all my fingers when it was over.
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Yeah, a rattlesnake bite is a bad day, but so is a bite from a large dog. I honestly think a rattlesnake is probably lower on the scale of "this is a stupid and dangerous thing to own" than a pitbull or other large/aggressive dog.

AnOminous said:
Why do these people hoard snakes to the point they're forced to keep them in racks in shit like Tupperware where the snake can't even stretch out to full length or explore an environment and is basically existing in sensory deprivation? They may often like to spend a lot of time curled up under something, but that doesn't mean they never want to stretch out or move around.

It's like keeping a dog in a tiny crate and never letting it out, then being amazed it bites when you open the cage just out of frustration at its shitty, deprived environment.

I'd feel a lot better about this kind of weirdo if they'd just have one of their precious venomous snakes and keep it in as large an environment as they could afford, instead of hoarding them.
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People like this guy are collecting pokemon. It's even faggier than the pyramid skeem you see with rackniggers. Rackniggers are doing it for money, these guys are doing it for clout. Not mutually exclusive spaces though, many rackniggers farm ball pythons or some other easily bred and popular snake to finance their pokemon collecting.

The sad part is a lot of famous rackniggers like Kevin McCurley not only argue that racks are OK but that they are *superior* care to a terrarium style enclosure because snakes kept in rack systems usually have stronger feeding and breeding responses. Since when those are the only stimuli an animal is offered, any animal going to be more responsive to that. There was actually a study that came out a couple of years back that provided pretty solid evidence that these systems are inadequate or at least sub-optimal. Rackniggers will cry "anthropomorphization" but it's demonstrable that when given space, an animal will use it. Even a highly terrestrial, mostly nocturnal snake will sometimes choose to climb and bask.

Unfortunately, breeders are seen as care experts across the board, people often don't recognize that breeders have a completely different set of priorities, and optimal or adequate care isn't at the top of that list because they're in it for the money. Get them big enough to breed quick, then get them to pump out as many babies as possible as fast as possible. Whether you're making money on volume or rolling for shiny pokemon, that's how you do it.

Animal husbandry in general is full of retarded faggots.
 
It’s always astonishing looking at reptile husbandry versus how people keep things like invertebrates, fish and frogs. I’ve seen where people will build very nice enclosures for their birdeater tarantulas or poison dart frogs, then compare it to people keeping leopard geckos and ball pythons on paper towels with the barest ass minimum amount of care. This, of course, is speaking of average keepers. People really do see the breeders as experts and it’s part of why outside of Europe and Australia, the standards are all so low.

I’ve encountered people like a German guy who kept 2 banded water snakes he got for ~€15 each in an enclosure that he spent a lot of money to not only be larger than a 400 gallon tank, but also be naturalistic enough to properly imitate their home in the states and accommodate their needs. Compare that to someone paying ~$1500 for a blue-eyed leucistic ball python in the states and then spending $60 to buy a tub, shitty heat mat and thermostat, tossing a bowl and hide on top of paper towels and saying fuck it.
 
Seafarer said:
Speaking of live feeding, wasn’t there some big reptile channel that got into controversy when it was discovered that they did live feeding because the owner was a degenerate furry that got off on seeing mammals get eaten alive or something?
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Reptile Channel. Unfortunately I'm unsure if they were ever properly doxed, and they disappeared shortly after they were exposed for their shit by NERD, among others.

TLDR, from what I recall, this channel, run by some guy, 'secretly' tried to sell feeding videos on forums for zoosadists. Their Youtube channel is a horror show of it's own without this context, and unfortunately has yet to be scrubbed from the internet. They amassed millions of views over their lifetime, actually doing shit like feeding live wild animals to their snakes, trapping them in various horrific scenarios.
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Yes, these horrific thumbnails are photoshopped, but what's shown here did indeed happen in various ways to several different wild mammals, and small birds. I'm not going to watch these specific videos to indeed find out if raccoons were put into these situations though, fuck that.

Like the horror cow he is he tried to react to the expose from NERD and defame them, but quickly gave up on the channel once it was obvious the bad rep wasn't going to just go away.
 
LemonParty said:
Damn it's super weird that you don't have some kind of Internet search feature that would let you know what you're killing. Best be safe and just kill all snakes. Perhaps they're native and beneficial, kill them all because theirs NO WAY OF KNOWING whether they're venomous or not.
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Ain't nobody got time to be bothering with all that, it's a lot easier to just kill it and let the snake gods sort it out.
 
Lonely khan said:
Jeff is a school teacher who rents at 50+ years old. He's never paying that back, taxpayers or his insurance network will, but I'd bet my life he doesn't spend more than a grand on his hospital bills even in the event he gets a 6 figure out of pocket bill (which he deserves). Once again if he gets a kidney transplant I volunteer to help investigate whoever is in charge of the waiting lists.
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Yeah, sad indeed. Being wrong on this restored a little of my faith in humanity. This is just another reason on the long list of why exotic wildlife trafficking is worse than narcotics trade, and it's completely done in the dark. A lot of people seem to not just not care, they'll visit these animal slavery cafes and gloat about how cute it is. At least with drugs, the habitat won't be ruined forever.

Hopefully some celebrity like Yaoming starts a campaign against these exotic pet trafficking freaks too.

Emanems said:
Sad tbh, unlike shitbulls I do feel bad for them, imagine you are smuggled out of your jungle, Australian desert or whatever, you bite some retard and you are disposed of
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Your entire evolutionary instinct is to put down that big mammalian predator yet some nosey freak thinks you're cute and all. How sad. I possess boogie2988 levels of vitriol towards this fucker. I hope he dies painfully, preferably in a Tupperware box too.
 
MerelyAPlateOfSpaghetti said:
My girlfriend in high school had a Russian Box Tortoise. Her room was too cold, so the terrarium ended up at my house for a while, and one of my favorite things to do was grab some dandelions and toss them in. Watching a tortoise calmly monch flowers is very soothing, I would just sit and watch him do his thing and it was awesome. He didn't like to be handled, because why the fuck would he?

It takes a special kind of brain broke to look at something and NEED to physically touch it, especially when the animal makes it clear they don't like it. A puppy or a kitten loves the attention and wants to be touched. Reptiles do not, so they are an eyes only pet the vast majority of the time. So crazy to think people don't just understand this lol
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Yes, true for most reptiles, and retards like Jeff should not be anywhere near them, but there are indeed species that can and have been raised to the point they seem to seek out contact with their owners. This includes snapping turtles, yes, those turtles. The giant fuck-off huge ones with a beak that could snap your fingers off.
There is a certain point where the intelligence of a reptile is high enough that this becomes the case. That said, there are none that could be treated the same as a dog or as a cat, but not all actually entirely shy away or become bothered by being handled at all. Raising a reptile like these is also a great undertaking and you need a lot of space and time to do so.
The Wokest said:
Nah keeping any wildlife is a big no, no, even if it's endemic. They start losing natural behaviors, associating humans with food or safety, if it escapes chances are it won't be able to reintegrate or it will seek another human, if you are not blackpilled when it comes to people I don't know what to say but I'll tell you that most animals with a defective sense of self preservation that approach a "human fwend" end up dead.
On the topic of a crow it could be as simple as landing on the arm of a kid eating ice-cream to grab some only for the mom to give it a mighty blow with her purse, not even maliciously but reflexively.
Or a zoosadist wins the lottery when a cute birdie willingly goes to him.

It's a sad reality but it's never a good idea to disrupt an ecosystem, people should never forget the reason why "NO FEEDING" signs became a thing in parks and places where wildlife and people interact.
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This is something that we figured out a long time ago.

And when it comes to non-natives the argument of If it escapes, no big deal. is a thing too. I hate to admit this but they use the statistical reality that an animal released on an strange environment will almost certainly die either because, can't reproduce, can't find food, hostile ecosystem, etc...
But fuck dude it only takes the right circumstances to create an invasive species problem, see the fucking everglades and the lion fish in the atlantic.
I fucking hate Floridians so much.
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I don't think we should stop trying to domesticate other animals just because there are drooling masses that can't even handle raising sea monkeys. Are you completely fine with people having free reign to own cattle, dogs and cats? Like the release of these doesn't cause the same amount of damage on it's own once they're able to establish breeding populations, see: wild hogs, cats in general in every country, wild roaming masses of dogs that can inevitably become a big problem ala Dingoes. There is very little separating the species we're okay with keeping even though humans are in general wildly irresponsible with the environment, and those that are considered wild. I'll concede that owning venomous snakes is stupid at it's face and won't gain us anything in the long run unless it's being done for legitimate research, but it simply does not apply to everything. Accepting bans being made willy nilly, without properly considering anything is how we're heading into an era where the non-approved can't even raise chickens.
 
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