🐮 Lolcow Jack David Sickenberger / The Cunning Condor - Prudish, Nosy, and Pretentious Cartoonist who Hates WHORES and makes REAL ART

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Since the Connor Condor seemed to be having trouble pinning down a definition of "smut," I thought I'd share this wisdom from renowned mathematician Tom Lehrer:

As the judge remarked
The day that he
Acquitted my Aunt Hortense:
"To be smut, it must be ut-
-Terly without redeeming social importance."

(Slightly NSFW)

In the interest of fairness, though, let's cut the poor wee lad some slack. After all, if you tried to draw something with your head wedged that far up your own ass, it probably wouldn't look very good either.
 
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Oh lawdy, this cow has more potential than I thought. Bolding mine:
First off, let's try to remain polite and civil here. I'm simply here to put any rumors to rest.

For starters, I'm not autistic. I'm not sure where that's coming from (or why it would be even used as an insult), but I can assure you, I'm not autistic, arrite?

Yes, where on earth would we get that idea? Perhaps from the comments section of his (now deleted) SegaForums Wiki page:

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So his Asperger's syndrome keeps him from being "another clone in society," but he's not autistic, you guys! I suppose he thinks that "Aspergers is Nothing At All Like Autism," too. Hmm, who else do we know that shares a similar opinion?
 
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Lots of chatter in his profile comments about a ban from Sega's forums (the only place stopping him from killing himself - his words) and stalking another user there. I'd provide caps but again, on mobile atm. I would love to know the backstory there though.

From what I know SEGA forums was mostly his hugbox. He posted his art, complained about not getting enough attention and then raced back to his friends for an asspat when feeling down. But I don't know all the details, so I could be wrong.

However, I do know that he was obsessed with another user at SEGA forums. Condor constantly provoked her, and vice versa. They were always at eachother's throats for whatever petty reason they could think of and the drama (among other things) resulted in the other user getting banned. Condor's account on SEGA isn't banned.
 
@The Cunning Condor if you do come back, check out Jenna Jameson's book, "How to Make Love Like a Pornstar: A Cautionary Tale." It's an excellent read, and might change how you think about art. I don't draw, and don't have as much technical know-how as others here, but it's clear that you're trying to form ideas about the world and people's perceptions of the value of art etc. I would encourage you to be a little humble and see past some of the barbs people are throwing at you and try to learn something here and there. Most of us were eighteen and pretentious once :roll:

http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/how...ar-jenna-jameson/1005540791?ean=9780060539108
 
@The Cunning Condor Welcome, it's nice to have a Cow who is willing to be civil.

A few thing's, we are a forum based originally around Christian Weston Chandler a mixed functioning autistic person who has a massive ego for all the wrong reasons, when we use Autistic as a slur it's just a local meme baesed in a awful lot of the people we discuss are on the spectrum as are a large number of our user base, don't take it to heart.

Your Art is better than mine so I have no critique to offer on your skill's but I do have to ask;
Please answer Meowths questions she is a artist I respect and is very knowledgeable an tallented.
Answer me this question, Where does the Erotic start an the Art begin?
You have said you don't like making money from your art, that's fine but do you consider yourself a hobbyist or a professional?

Again it's nice to have a resident Cow be civil and it's a welcome change from the norm, but please don't try an be dramatic an ask to have a thread closed etc the more drama created the more discussion there is to be had, just be civil an open to ideas you might not like you will get far more out of the community that way.
 
Since apparently I'm a big meanie head, I'll tone down my reviews and talk to you about pieces you've done that I actually like and suggest some basic things you can do to improve all works you do from your deep meaningful pictures to cartoons.

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I really like this one. You chose a complimenting pallet, the character's body language flows properly, I like the odd proportions and the expression is great. I would advise removing the pencil shading under the character with a digital one and picking a different shade for the eyes.

It finally dawned on me that your style is very similar to Sonic with the enlarged eyes, feet and hands. It was the eyelashes that made me realize this. It also reminds me of Bleedman's style, especially his early work.
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I do agree with what you said that your traditional art is better than your digital work. Speaking of, what program do you use? Do you own a tablet? If you are more interested in improving your digital work, I would suggest looking up ways to create clean outlines and make your shading not as bumpy. Flash is actually a good program for beginning artists just doing still drawings, not just for animation. However it is good to see you are using cel shading and not the typical burn/doge technique, something I myself am guilty of when I first started out.

My best personal advice is to get a good sketchbook, a range of B2 to B6 pencils and take a trip to the park or a ride on the bus and sketch down everyone you see. You'll learn so much about the human form and how different every face is. It's amazing how just the size of the eyebrows or how big a forehead is to change the very personality of a character.

We've all been through that phase of thinking your work is perfect and above others, my time was actually when I drew similarly to you as a matter of fact. I think you just need to cool down, take a few steps back and remind yourself you can always improve. Every new piece of work is better than your last and with every new pencil stroke you learn something new. Hopping on the mindset that your current work is your very best or meaningful is very toxic and leave you big headed. Being humble and listening to others, no matter what they say will give you a new perspective.

You have potential. Don't let that go to waste by drawing the same thing the same way and take the advice of others. I guarantee you're going to look back one day and go "what was I thinking?!?" I hope you can forgive my initial bitchy comments and revisit the forums. I admit I can be a pushy asshole when it comes to people ignoring principle concepts but I should have toned it down. Just take the time to learn some new things and remember that art is suppose to be fun! You know you've gone wrong somewhere when drawing becomes a chore. So practice, practice, practice!
 
Late to the party but let me see if I got this straight.

Condor does average art on DA and has a weird hatred for porn. When did he get all emo and shit?

EDIT- He also used a pretty wack Eminem gif in his first post.
 
Late to the party but let me see if I got this straight.

Condor does average art on DA and has a weird hatred for porn. When did he get all emo and shit?

He came on the thread last night and apparently had no idea what Kiwi Farms was about until after people on the thread keyed him in. He was horrified and depressed. I also don't think he liked us questioning his admittedly intense anger over women who have sex. We may have triggered him. Oops.
 
He came on the thread last night and apparently had no idea what Kiwi Farms was about until after people on the thread keyed him in. He was horrified and depressed. I also don't think he liked us questioning his admittedly intense anger over women who have sex. It may have triggered him.

Oops.
This was all one night? Not Holden level but I'm impressed by how much mileage he put in. Thanks for filling me in and hopefully I can catch up. Getting that emo in one night is fucking insane.
 
Obviously because we call people autistic as an insult or in a joking manner we must be discriminatory. In that line of reasoning this guy is a sexist because he called some females whores.
 
I never expected this thread to get as big as it did. Its nothing even close Marjan levels but I expected it to die rather fast. I also didn't think thought Condor would come back after his first post.

With that said I'm betting on more passive aggressive DA journals and if we're lucky he'll complain about this forum's resident artists too.
 
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