🐮 Lolcow Jack David Sickenberger / The Cunning Condor - Prudish, Nosy, and Pretentious Cartoonist who Hates WHORES and makes REAL ART

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Like I said Connor - we're all predators. You should of left but we got you hook line and sinker - welcome to the Kiwi Farms.
 
Locksnap said:
If the good stuff is whats in your folder titled 'Art for the Mind' , then I'm not sure what to say. It looks like what an angsty 15 year old would doodle in their schoolbooks. Hamfisted metaphors mixed in with vague shit that gives you the leeway to say to people "think more about it, you just don't get it!". I'm not surprised you don't value technical skill very much when your best art looks this amateur.

What substance is in this?
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It's necessarily the "good stuff" as much as a simply different method of structuring my stuff. Some of my peeps like the cartoony stuff better, others like the weird stuff better. Preference.

I'm not drawing skulls carved in apples saying it represents my sadness. I'm making images with different edits, patterns in linework, covered in a simple design and the message of the drawing is usually left up to the viewers to decide. I'm more interested in what the viewer thinks.
 
The Cunning Condor said:
Perhaps I didn't fully read your definition then (I'm having to answer like 5 posts a minute here). Basically put, art can be an infinite amount of things. Not just visual. (I may just be doing what I can to spare my injured wrist from further typing)
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Yes I know. I'm a professional dancer (well was. Knee has been destroyed), and I can tell you, shit doesn't need to mean anything. It can just be beautiful and still be art and appreciated for that beatiful.
 
TM Ambrose said:
Yes but you said you were trying to prove that girls didn't have to be drawn sexualized. Drawing them in a different context is still sexualized.... Even if you put a funny hat on them while you do it.
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They don't. This particular one was in order to be silly. I'm not encouraging women be depicted as whores. I'm just exemplifying that this one was.

Valiant said:
Like I said Connor - we're all predators. You should of left but we got you hook line and sinker - welcome to the Kiwi Farms.
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Connor?
 
The Cunning Condor said:
If the drawing doesn't grab your attention... okay. :l

Genesis is in fact more of a doodle than a drawing compared to some other stuff (didn't stop it from earning me a perfect score in the class tho (it was imagery accompanying a paper I wrote on my views on art and it's place in the world))

A smut drawing can look like Davinci himself made it, doesn't matter.
You can put lipstick on a pig. It's still a pig.
I personally prefer substance over glitter.

Erotic artwork (the pornographic kind) is pretty much devoid of any ambition and creativity). With Naked People, I'm just havin' a little giggle. I never claimed they were "revolutionary".

And I'm honestly surprised at how much buzz they're stirring up.
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You are false.

You are empty.
 
TM Ambrose said:
Yes I know. I'm a professional dancer (well was. Knee has been destroyed), and I can tell you, shit doesn't need to mean anything. It can just be beautiful and still be art and appreciated for that beatiful.
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I agree. But be aware that there are some people out there find beauty in rape and murder. Not everyone is exactly a "good person".
 
The Cunning Condor said:
skulls carved in apples
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That would actually be pretty cool though

No, even better, just stab the apples a bunch of times with a knife and then take pictures of them and call them modern art. Say the patterns represent racism or something. That really would be an interesting project to some people.

Or carve little vaginas into them and call them porn. Call it "Condor's Conundrum: Is it art, or is it porn?".
 
The Cunning Condor said:
It's necessarily the "good stuff" as much as a simply different method of structuring my stuff. Some of my peeps like the cartoony stuff better, others like the weird stuff better. Preference.

I'm not drawing skulls carved in apples saying it represents my sadness. I'm making images with different edits, patterns in linework, covered in a simple design and the message of the drawing is usually left up to the viewers to decide. I'm more interested in what the viewer thinks.
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Are you telling us you didn't actually imbue your art with any actual meaning? No soul, no essence, no love?
 
Treblinkachu said:
That would actually be pretty cool though

No, even better, just stab the apples a bunch of times with a knife and then take pictures of them and call them modern art. Say the patterns represent racism or something. That really would be an interesting project to some people.
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Yeah, see that... seems just... off. Like I see people get all bent up over a canvas with a knife through it... i feel like these kinds of people are deluding themselves into thinking that they've experienced something "beyond" in order to make themselves feel more interesting.

I can see how y'all may think this of me, but again, if I wanted attention, I'd be drawing porn all the time. But I ain't. I'm just not cool with that. That's me.

Locksnap said:
Are you telling us you didn't actually imbue your art with any actual meaning? No soul, no essence, no love?
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I do have my own personal meanings gathered from them, but I prefer to leave it open to the viewer rather than "dictate" what the purpose is to them.
 
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The Cunning Condor said:
Yeah, see that... seems just... off. Like I see people get all bent up over a canvas with a knife through it... i feel like these kinds of people are deluding themselves into thinking that they've experienced something "beyond" in order to make themselves feel more interesting.

I can see how y'all may think this of me, but again, if I wanted attention, I'd be drawing porn all the time. But I ain't. I'm just not cool with that. That's me.
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Treblinkachu said:
Or carve little vaginas into them and call them porn. Call it "Condor's Conundrum: Is it art, or is it porn?".
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The Cunning Condor said:
I feel like this is a quote...
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Your face is bear.

The Cunning Condor said:
I agree. But be aware that there are some people out there find beauty in rape and murder. Not everyone is exactly a "good person".
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Behold, The Rape of Proserpina.

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This is depicting a rape. It is unmistakably erotic in nature.

Is this rubbish, then?
 
Loke said:
I apologize in advance if you've come around in more recent posts as I really wish to get this out. So from one artist to another, your opinions on art are perverse. Art is about expression, and is secondly about communication. Much of art is a conversation, whether between the one making and the one experiencing, or between the artist and his influences/forerunners. Porn isn't brainless, it has a purpose, just like a short story or a painting of the Virgin Mary. It's purpose is to arouse, nothing more, nothing less. There is craft to it, and believe it or not, acting is involved. Know how hard it is to fake an orgasm? How hard it is to stay hard for so many hours? Lastly, as someone trying to publish a novel, grow up. Not having a venue or people willing to pay for your work does not entitle you to call others who have them hookers. Money pays the bills, and art is a skill like any other. As far as your art goes, I don't like it too much, although that Genesis pic someone a page ago shared in order to berate you was pretty neat to me, but I don't think it is bad at all, certainly not bad enough to be featured here. I like you, and no one here should attack you for no reason, and I'm happy to see you aren't a crazy person who flies off the handle at the first sight of negativity. If I were in charge, I would offer to get rid of this thread. Welcome to the farms.
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I gave him a harsh critique I didn't belittle him. Though I thank you for the dislike rating.
 
Globe said:
It probably is. Sorry if I'm sounding like a broken record here, but I'm trying to pick your brain a bit..You said the (not) Porn things were satire, right? What exactly was this specific comic strip satirizing?
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It is satirizing the well-known and innate female tendency to not have sex with/date/pay attention to The Cunning Condor.
 
@Treblinkachu I feel the vagina in an apple thing would just be humorous.

Globe said:
It probably is. Sorry if I'm sounding like a broken record here, but I'm trying to pick your brain a bit..You said the (not) Porn things were satire, right? What exactly was this specific comic strip satirizing?
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Selective nature. It's a simple (very simple) observation that I had in mind and I just... here you go internet. Again, the NP comics aren't meant to be "deep".

As for the sculpture up there, I don't think it's supposed to be seen as a thing of beauty but rather create a scene that inflicts the viewer emotionally, be it fear, sadness, etc.

I was referring to the kind of wacknuts who embrace rape by, like, making paintings of children being sodomized by a demon or some shit.
 
The Cunning Condor said:
@Treblinkachu I feel the vagina in an apple thing would just be humorous..
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It would also be exploring a valid, if utterly meaningless, question: should a likeness of a vagina carved into a delicious fruit be categorized as if it were an actual human vagina? These are the kinds of things modern artistes dwell on. You are an artiste. Think like one. Act like one.
 
The Cunning Condor said:
Selective nature. It's a simple (very simple) observation that I had in mind and I just... here you go internet. Again, the NP comics aren't meant to be "deep".
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M'kay. Do you think that "selective nature" is exclusive to a gender? If not, do you realize that this comic could very easily and reasonably leave someone with the impression that you do?
 
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