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You know, at this point, I wonder if there's an arabic idiomatic expression that translates to "religion of peace" and if that's the case, what connotations the arabic word for "peace" carries in that instance.
Oh didn't you know, our word for "peace" in the koran can only be accurately translated into our own language, because God says so in our book about God that we wrote that you aren't able to read correctly so you'll just have to take our word for it. #unfalsifiable #isntthatconvenient
 
Islam as a "religion of peace" is a misnomer. It's more of a "religion of submission" and indeed "islam" like that translates to "submission to the will of God."

Surat an-Naba said:
So taste ye (the fruits of your deeds); for no increase shall We grant you, except in Punishment.

In other words, believe or God will fuck you up hardcore.
 
Islam as a "religion of peace" is a misnomer. It's more of a "religion of submission" and indeed "islam" like that translates to "submission to the will of God."



In other words, believe or God will fuck you up hardcore.
So in all seriousness, it looks like a sapir-whorf thing. "Peace" and "do what we demand" are the same thing to Islamists.
 
So in all seriousness, it looks like a sapir-whorf thing. "Peace" and "do what we demand" are the same thing to Islamists.

When you look at all these rulings individually, it's bad enough, but when you start looking at them in context of one another, you soon get how atrocious this whole IslamQA network of bullshit really is.
Like, there's rulings about how it's okay to take Kuffar as slaves only when you're at war with them, but then there's another ruling that mentions that Islam is at war with everyone that's not either muslim or submits to muslim rule and pays the kuffar-tax.
And even then, when the "end times" draw near, it's either being a muslim or getting your head chopped off.

It's insane.

Without really looking too much into Islam, undoubtedly there's passages that do have merit. Such as taking care of poor people - I know there's a part that rhetorically asks "How can your neighbor be starving when you yourself are well fed?" somewhere in the Quran. Or it tells muslims to always act morally good, such as not stealing from anyone, since muslims should be virtuous and a role model to others (even non-believers) so they might inspire people to become muslims or to adhere to its values...
And as per usual, the texts themselves are less important than what the believers make of them. Terrible, bigotted assholes will preach terrible, bigotted bullshit - open-minded, tolerant people will preach open-mindedness and understanding.

But there is a significant fraction of muslims that just seem to be completely out of their minds if they just adhere to even half the shit that IslamQA tells them to. And another significant fraction of so-called moderate muslims might not really share these views, but they still don't really oppose them either.
 
When you look at all these rulings individually, it's bad enough, but when you start looking at them in context of one another, you soon get how atrocious this whole IslamQA network of bullshit really is.
Like, there's rulings about how it's okay to take Kuffar as slaves only when you're at war with them, but then there's another ruling that mentions that Islam is at war with everyone that's not either muslim or submits to muslim rule and pays the kuffar-tax.
And even then, when the "end times" draw near, it's either being a muslim or getting your head chopped off.

It's insane.

Without really looking too much into Islam, undoubtedly there's passages that do have merit. Such as taking care of poor people - I know there's a part that rhetorically asks "How can your neighbor be starving when you yourself are well fed?" somewhere in the Quran. Or it tells muslims to always act morally good, such as not stealing from anyone, since muslims should be virtuous and a role model to others (even non-believers) so they might inspire people to become muslims or to adhere to its values...
And as per usual, the texts themselves are less important than what the believers make of them. Terrible, bigotted assholes will preach terrible, bigotted bullshit - open-minded, tolerant people will preach open-mindedness and understanding.

But there is a significant fraction of muslims that just seem to be completely out of their minds if they just adhere to even half the shit that IslamQA tells them to. And another significant fraction of so-called moderate muslims might not really share these views, but they still don't really oppose them either.

Keep in mind I'm Christian and have a built in bias because of that, but I shall try to keep this based on objective fact regardless.

Islam has a fundamental problem with the concept of peace as is understood in it's most general sense because, when you get down to it, Islam has spread more by the sword historically than by peace.

Judaism technically can claim the same in theory if you count the conquering of Canaan in the Bible, but that was more a "get off my land so we can have it" in practice.

Christianity, on the other hand, it deliberately spread further via nonviolence than through violence. They even have a saying for it:

"The blood of martyrs is the seed of the church."

Sure, there were various European powers who tried to impress religious worship of Christianity up until a few centuries ago, but it was never as effective as when they let people believe or not of their own free will, and it's built into Christianity that you DON'T need to use the law of Man to make people follow the law of God, and such practice has virtually ceased in every civilized nation today where Christianity took firm root.

Jesus even made an explicit point of this when the Pharisees tried to trick him with the "should we pay taxes to Caesar?" question, pointing out the face on the coins of the time were those of Caesar, so to give to Caesar's what is Caesar's, and to God what is God's. He also went on at length about how he had no intention of establishing an earthly kingdom but a spiritual one.

tl;dr; Christianity is rather tailor made to spread via willful conversion than by forcible oppression.

Islam is quite different. It's own history is built on the premise of its founder waging war to spread the word of Allah. It's historical fact that after Muhammad's death that practice continued for the longest time, and Islam immediately experienced a contraction in followers the minute the threat of the sword eased up, as can be exemplified in every country where Islam was enforced by Man and then that no longer applied.

I emphasize that not everyone follows Islam out of fear of Man's retribution. Like the other "People of the Book", many of it's adherents are willfully submissive to Allah and would rather face death then deny Allah, and there is nothing wrong with that, but as the subject of this thread is dedicated to, there are those who literally are forced by decrees of Men to follow their God, or in many cases they will be put to death either by the state or by fanatics whose faith in Allah is so weak they feel they have to make sure other Muslims follow him out of fear than out of willful reverence.

Which should explain all the crazy rulings this thread is dedicated to and the underlying logic behind their authority.
 
I figured that this is the most appropriate place to post this video. It doesn't come from IslamQA, but the ideology is identical to what IslamQA preaches. It was done by some fuckwad named Nouman Ali Khan. Shockingly, he got his Islamic education in Saudi Arabia and Pakistan.


This video actually nauseated me. I'll give a rundown of the major points for everyone who doesn't want to be exposed to this shit:
  • Women are men's biggest weakness. Because of this, Allah instructs women to drape themselves in fabric and cover their hair so they don't ruin men's lives.
  • Men are incapable of not being lecherous perverts and can't just respect women regardless of what they're wearing, so women must do everything they can to not tempt men.
  • Women are the biggest threat to the male gender. Apparently this point cannot be stressed enough.
  • Oh, here's where it gets good, guys. If a wife yells at her husband for leering at women and calls him weak for not being able stop perving out, she's the bad guy. Instead, she must accept that all men are lecherous animals who are incapable of controlling their urges, because that's the way Allah designed them. Women must be "supportive" and accepting of this weakness and never "lecture" men by telling them to fight their urges.
  • Women who don't veil themselves and smile at men are whores who have no dignity or self-respect. They bare their arms and their hair because they want men to ogle them. Nouman calls this "horrible and sad."
  • A woman's appearance is referred to as "her shame." Not making any of this up.
  • Wives are expected to take care of their husbands and "heal" their hearts after they've been exposed to indecent women all day.
Tl;dr: Men are mindless rape apes who can't control their urges, so women are responsible for not "tempting" them by covering themselves up completely.

Also, all the comments are worth looking at (there aren't many of them), but this one made me laugh:
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"I LOVED your misogynistic video, but it gave me a boner and that's haram."
 
I figured that this is the most appropriate place to post this video. It doesn't come from IslamQA, but the ideology is identical to what IslamQA preaches. It was done by some fuckwad named Nouman Ali Khan. Shockingly, he got his Islamic education in Saudi Arabia and Pakistan.


This video actually nauseated me. I'll give a rundown of the major points for everyone who doesn't want to be exposed to this shit:
  • Women are men's biggest weakness. Because of this, Allah instructs women to drape themselves in fabric and cover their hair so they don't ruin men's lives.
  • Men are incapable of not being lecherous perverts and can't just respect women regardless of what they're wearing, so women must do everything they can to not tempt men.
  • Women are the biggest threat to the male gender. Apparently this point cannot be stressed enough.
  • Oh, here's where it gets good, guys. If a wife yells at her husband for leering at women and calls him weak for not being able stop perving out, she's the bad guy. Instead, she must accept that all men are lecherous animals who are incapable of controlling their urges, because that's the way Allah designed them. Women must be "supportive" and accepting of this weakness and never "lecture" men by telling them to fight their urges.
  • Women who don't veil themselves and smile at men are whores who have no dignity or self-respect. They bare their arms and their hair because they want men to ogle them. Nouman calls this "horrible and sad."
  • A woman's appearance is referred to as "her shame." Not making any of this up.
  • Wives are expected to take care of their husbands and "heal" their hearts after they've been exposed to indecent women all day.
Tl;dr: Men are mindless rape apes who can't control their urges, so women are responsible for not "tempting" them by covering themselves up completely.

Also, all the comments are worth looking at (there aren't many of them), but this one made me laugh:
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"I LOVED your misogynistic video, but it gave me a boner and that's haram."
This religion has such a pessimistic view on men. Heck, there are animals with more sexual self-control than the way humans are portrayed here. I have to wonder if this was all made to excuse Mohammad's own sexual problems while having a scapegoat.
 
At this point, can the slogan of Islamism just be "Islam!: If you enjoy it, it's haram!"?
This religion has such a pessimistic view on men. Heck, there are animals with more sexual self-control than the way humans are portrayed here. I have to wonder if this was all made to excuse Mohammad's own sexual problems while having a scapegoat.
It amazes me how incredibly sexist the conservative Islamic worldview is towards both sexes. Women need to stay in the kitchen and shut up, but only because all men are mindless rape-machines who'll violate a woman for making eye contact with them. It's like the worst elements of Neo-Traditional Christianity and Tumblr Feminism in one package.
 
At this point, can the slogan of Islamism just be "Islam!: If you enjoy it, it's haram!"?

It amazes me how incredibly sexist the conservative Islamic worldview is towards both sexes. Women need to stay in the kitchen and shut up, but only because all men are mindless rape-machines who'll violate a woman for making eye contact with them. It's like the worst elements of Neo-Traditional Christianity and Tumblr Feminism in one package.
Granted, the bible teaches sexual restraint and to just advert your gaze.
 
Remeber ladies, if you're not wearing your burqua you're asking to be raped.
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It's not going to save you sweetie. Your husband alone can force sex upon you and men still see you as a horrid temptress. In the middle east, "modest" girls still get raped, harassed and/or molested if the man can find a loophole. Man, why is it that the more I learn of this religion, the less I like it?
 
It amazes me how incredibly sexist the conservative Islamic worldview is towards both sexes. Women need to stay in the kitchen and shut up, but only because all men are mindless rape-machines who'll violate a woman for making eye contact with them. It's like the worst elements of Neo-Traditional Christianity and Tumblr Feminism in one package.

To be fair, short of joining ISIS you aren't going to find crazier than IslamQA.info.

However, it should be noted that the only Christian site this crazy is Landover Baptist, which is a parody, while this is even more insane and apparently completely sincere.
 
To be fair, short of joining ISIS you aren't going to find crazier than IslamQA.info.

However, it should be noted that the only Christian site this crazy is Landover Baptist, which is a parody, while this is even more insane and apparently completely sincere.
There was Jesus is Lord and they were pretty nuts and for real.
 
To be fair, short of joining ISIS you aren't going to find crazier than IslamQA.info.

However, it should be noted that the only Christian site this crazy is Landover Baptist, which is a parody, while this is even more insane and apparently completely sincere.

They are both Salafi, what do you expect? Their concept of Islam was born from the minds of an uneducated people a few hundred years ago who were living on the brink of poverty in the center of the Arabian desert. In such an environment poverty means death. So they take the most narrow interpretation of what Islam is in hopes that the deity will not punish them but will instead reward them with relative success for their piety. Regretfully those zealots were sitting on a sea of oil...
 
It amazes me how incredibly sexist the conservative Islamic worldview is towards both sexes. Women need to stay in the kitchen and shut up, but only because all men are mindless rape-machines who'll violate a woman for making eye contact with them.

You know, when this point is brought up, a lot of people say "But why? That worldview is so insulting to both sexes, why do people buy into it?"

Well, it's because this mentality works out great for the men. They're allowed to sexually harass, molest, and even rape women with impunity. Men usually receive little to no punishment for their behavior while women are blamed for "enticing" them. After all, nobody would blame a cat for eating uncovered meat, so why blame men for acting out on their natural urges when they see an indecent woman? Oh, and by the way, I didn't make up that cat analogy. A decade ago, a senior Muslim cleric in Australia used that analogy to blame rape victims for provoking good men into raping them.

So basically, these men are totally fine with being called mindless beasts because it lets them get away with shitty behavior they'd be held accountable for otherwise.
 
You know, when this point is brought up, a lot of people say "But why? That worldview is so insulting to both sexes, why do people buy into it?"

Well, it's because this mentality works out great for the men. They're allowed to sexually harass, molest, and even rape women with impunity. Men usually receive little to no punishment for their behavior while women are blamed for "enticing" them. After all, nobody would blame a cat for eating uncovered meat, so why blame men for acting out on their natural urges when they see an indecent woman? Oh, and by the way, I didn't make up that cat analogy. A decade ago, a senior Muslim cleric in Australia used that analogy to blame rape victims for provoking good men into raping them.

So basically, these men are totally fine with being called mindless beasts because it lets them get away with shitty behavior they'd be held accountable for otherwise.
It makes Allah seem like a dick if he would give one gender an urge so powerful that it hurts people while the other is to take the blame and be their punching bags. I've heard a theory that Mohammad might've had a hand in his first wife's death given that she's an independent woman who probably wouldn't be all that hot on his anti-woman beliefs and taking other wives.
 
The bible teaches a lot of things, some of which is almost as bad as Islamism if you take it literally (which most Christians these days don't).

Which, if you follow Christianity, Jesus explicitly revoked most of the more literal parts by the time he died and was resurrected, and God further demolished most of the remaining former aspects of the Jewish covenant, and the early church decided to do the same and agreed aside from the moral strictures as codified by Jesus, they wouldn't expect other followers of Christ to follow all the uber literal parts that hadn't already been revoked.

And while Jesus was alive, he even flat out said the more literal parts of the Jewish covenant still applied only if you wanted to follow them, but you didn't have to, so long as you accepted the basic premise of God's teachings.

Islam has to be the only religion that claims Abraham as a descendant that has only added MORE rules over time, not less.
 
While looking for MEMRI TV screenshots, I found some about the cartoon Spongebob SquarePants and there is an entire fucking video where some Islamist is talking about how Spongebob Squarepants is some Zionist Conspiracy and some crap.
Here's the video if anyone is interested.


I just cracked up after watching that video and yeah, I think MEMRI TV might warrant it's own thread (and there should be a subforum just for Islamic Content and the lolcows that support Shariah and Salafism/Wahhabism).
 
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