Incel and Lonely Men Debate thread - Defend men giving up or tell them otherwise

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Would incels be fit to join some Muslim terrorist group?
There was a study that came out either 2023 or 2024 that basically showed that, at the heart of every single terrorist group are incel men who have no purpose in life.
Those incel men are given purpose by a charismatic leader and then they are the pawns who get sacrificed.

If the thought of being surrounded by men like this scares you, that means you're sane.
 
There is not someone out there for everyone.

Looks are extremely important and if you don't have that you better have a good personality but these guys almost never have that either.

So to the bunny ranch you go.
 
Almost equally many women and men are born. Where do the excess women go? Sure they all chase Chad, but Chad only marries one or two.
Extra workforce + more bodies for the state harem.
Would incels be fit to join some Muslim terrorist group?
Of course--sacrificing surplus men will always be an act in society in order to balance it out and squash potential disorder in it. Who do you think the Spanish and English sent to the New World at first? or the plebeians who joined the first crusade? mostly surplus men/criminals/people who had nothing going for them in said society.
 
Almost equally many women and men are born. Where do the excess women go? Sure they all chase Chad, but Chad only marries one or two.

Leftover women aren't really allowed to complain. At least not 'yet'. Genuinely unattractive women are really a social taboo. Positivity movements around body size( "big is beautiful") and race ("black is beautiful") still want to go nowhere near genuinely ugly women and won't spot light their struggles. Lots of women do end up alone and most of them are ugly (through no fault of their own) but you don't hear about them.
 
Leftover women aren't really allowed to complain. At least not 'yet'. Genuinely unattractive women are really a social taboo. Positivity movements around body size( "big is beautiful") and race ("black is beautiful") still want to go nowhere near genuinely ugly women and won't spot light their struggles. Lots of women do end up alone and most of them are ugly (through no fault of their own) but you don't hear about them.
There's a lot of those women complaining on Reddit, where they get not only creeps and bots, but genuine guys trying to meet them, as when I was on Reddit a long time ago I used to read a lot of comments from actual lonely boys trying to be loved.

But these women refuse to even reply, and are often spewing sexist remarks about men on dedicated, usually man-hating, fish-smelling subreddits.
 
In my opinion, if you’re an incel and believe it’s over, join some religious order or something that requires celibacy. Like a priest or a monk. No foids for miles! You’re also already immune to temptation (harlots) because of your supposed ugliness. Not sure what you should do if you’re an atheist however, I am open to suggestions though.
 
Almost equally many women and men are born.
In what regards?
Leftover women aren't really allowed to complain.
It was always and always will be more of a task for most men to land a girlfriend than the opposite.

Sure, culturally speaking this might change. Americans and Latinos still carry on some Hollywood-like Romanticist values mixed with some "body count = XP" mentality which only encourages overt competition between men and overestimation of women which can lead to burnout among men.

This is why American/Latin women complaining on social media about men not hitting on them anymore is a thing. Obviously in this context when they say "men" we know they're referring to a specific type and not generally speaking, but they perhaps also noticed the shift in the situation as more men, generally speaking, stopped engaging with them. The real question is how much of these women are mere bimbos complaining.

But I don't know how Europeans (assuming there is no difference between Western/Southern/Northern/Eastern Europe) see that. I don't know if Europe is facing some "single men epidemic" like in America. I'm not sure if they have the same dilemma or if it's just because raising a family became something prohibitive financially speaking. Same for Asians (apart from the Middle East of course). Don't know about Africans.

Repharsing myself, it was always and always will be more of a task for most men to land a girlfriend than the opposite. However, how hard it is worldwide is what should be compared. Usually when we talk about incels, most of them are Americans (though we have LatAm incels). How much of this incel phenomenon is just the byproduct of mainstream American media slop and its effects on society?

Since I'm from the New World I wonder if the incel/redpill dilemma is that universal.
 
Would incels be fit to join some Muslim terrorist group?
I dunno, but I'm pretty sure that the 72 virgins are all other men who blew themselves up hoping for an eternity of sex and paradise with attractive women.
There is not someone out there for everyone.

Looks are extremely important and if you don't have that you better have a good personality but these guys almost never have that either.

So to the bunny ranch you go.
This is true, and harems were a thing for a number of years. That being said, Bunny Ranch type places are not legal in most of the US (and only in a few places in Nevada I think) but I don't know about the rest of the world.
 
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Bunny Ranch type places are not legal in most of the US (and only in a few places in Nevada I think) but I don't know about the rest of the world.
As I've said before:
Usually when we talk about incels, most of them are Americans (though we have LatAm incels). How much of this incel phenomenon is just the byproduct of mainstream American media slop and its effects on society?
And considering prostitution is illegal in almost all of America most (if not all) incels can't get laid partly perhaps because of this legal hindrance. Though I don't know what are the workarounds for this and how widespread this is in the US.
 
And considering prostitution is illegal in almost all of America most (if not all) incels can't get laid partly perhaps because of this legal hindrance. Though I don't know what are the workarounds for this and how widespread this is in the US.
Considering that Chris Chan could get a prostitute (twice), I don't think there are many real obstacles to this.
 
Considering that Chris Chan could get a prostitute (twice), I don't think there are many real obstacles to this.
OK and why incels won't just hire one, then? I'd imagine there's pride (not paying for sex) or "it's not about simply getting laid" that keeps them hiring one but are these the only alternatives?

Perhaps they desire casual sex/relationships in a search for personal validation? To feel they're being desired by others rather than having someone really interested in dating them? You know, the thing most incels accuse women of.
 
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