🎨 Artcow Iconoclast / Jonathan Mack Sweet - The Chris-Chan of Arkansas

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Holdek said:
Members can still log in and communicate with each other through private messages, but everything has been deleted except for a note indicating that the forum has been closed. I PMed admin and he says they shut it down.
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Gotcha. Well...if they wanna take their ball and go home I guess that's their right. :\
 
TheIceCreamMan said:
Gotcha. Well...if they wanna take their ball and go home I guess that's their right. :\
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I'm waiting on a response from the admin for the reasoning, but I think there had been less activity for a while now and this latest kerfuffle just made them realize it wasn't worth the trouble of keeping the forum going.
 
I'm sure Sweet will blame us for getting his precious hugbox shut down. I doubt he'll come back here, as he's a coward without a bunch of supporters at his back. We should stay vigilant for where ever he lands next.

Wonder if we'll have a small influx of posters from AJM? Surely Treenbeen and AJMinsider aren't the only ones curious about us.
 
I posted a longcat photoshop a minute ago, but it seemed too triumphalist. I don't feel triumphant.

I feel bad for most of the AJMers - they got caught in the crossfire between us and the coward Dr. Belch. That an online community that was celebrating its 10th anniversary should lose so much of its recorded history seems a shame. I know that most of the members will still meet up on Playstation network or Teamspeak, and this is at least some consolation.

Mostly I'm disappointed in myself - AJMStudios was the single greatest trove of Sweet's internet posts and I worry that I revealed my archival work too early. Now it can never be completed.

Sorry guys.
 
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Thats a bit sad. Its a shame their insistence on tolerating Jon caused their whole fucking forum to die out. I don't think anyone here intended for this kind of result.
 
Locksnap said:
Thats a bit sad. Its a shame their insistence on tolerating Jon caused their whole fucking forum to die out. I don't think anyone here intended for this kind of result.
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Indeed. All they had to do was just reign him in. When Sweet says something obviously provocative, it's easy to see, and can't be that hard to deal with. Would it have been that difficult to tell him to tone down the hateful rhetoric and unprovable conspiracy talk? We've seen plenty of evidence that he can make innocuous posts about snacks and cartoons. Why not do your job as a moderator and make sure he doesn't cause problems?

Absinthe said:
Sorry guys.
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You did nothing wrong. This was inevitable, and it was all from their side. They wanted to sit quietly in the reference section of the library, enjoying their little latte and scones and decorum, while letting their rabid pet baboon run all over the place, scratching and biting people, getting upset when someone complained. In a way, they were just as impractical and in denial as Jon is.
 
Part of me hopes this means Iconoclast will come back here, but he'll more likely try to find another conservative forum (and hopefully get banned within a year).
 
trombonista said:
Part of me hopes this means Iconoclast will come back here, but he'll more likely try to find another conservative forum (and hopefully get banned within a year).
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Quite right about the latter. I have strong doubts he'll find another place as extraordinarily tolerant towards him as AJM Studios. Whether that means he'll come back here I don't know, but I expect hes somewhere writing up a scathing statement about how the Kiwi koalas are to blame for this.
 
trombonista said:
Part of me hopes this means Iconoclast will come back here, but he'll more likely try to find another conservative forum (and hopefully get banned within a year).
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Since most conservatives tend to be older, and very straight laced, I suspect their bullshit threshold will be a lot lower. Seriously, if Sweet starts posting about his fart fetish, or lusting after underaged girls, most conservative forums will swing the banhammer without a second thought. AJM put up with Sweet cause they were a lot younger than him and younger people are less set in their ways usually.
 
AJM is dead? Holy shit.

They would rather kill their own webforum than confront sweets.

I'm lost for words.
 
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Holdek said:
Today the AJM board was shut down permanently.
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Well within my predicted responses. Admittedly, it was a notably less likely outcome than them just banning you guys because they like the raging strawman because he matches their opinions, but this matches the MO of the other sites I've encountered with this type of staff. They can't take drama due to being too incapable to realize that you can make it go away by either hitting the red x or doing what you were assigned to do in a short five minute burst. Neither are hard, but they collectively lacked the will to do so.

DrJonesHat said:
I'm sure Sweet will blame us for getting his precious hugbox shut down. I doubt he'll come back here, as he's a coward without a bunch of supporters at his back. We should stay vigilant for where ever he lands next.

My prediction is he'll likely flee to DeviantArt, to TvTropes if he is not banned, or to another webzone that he might have deep in his history. He's simplistic and predictable, he will be found within the week based on his utter inability to not stop caring about stuff that happened like 20 years ago.

Wonder if we'll have a small influx of posters from AJM? Surely Treenbeen and AJMinsider aren't the only ones curious about us.
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Outcome: rather unlikely. They mostly seem to be super insular and were not supportive of our scrutiny. My prediction is they'll find a new zone most likely to chat. My experience with sites like this are that they'll regroup into a new area. Likely with a new name and everything.

If they do so, and in the event that our creep Sweets joins them; I advise those going into the fray as weens, investigators, and archivers to do so discreetly and silently if possible. They tend to be easily spooked and they will easily kill their new Zion if they feel threatened.

He Sets Me On Fire said:
Indeed. All they had to do was just reign him in. When Sweet says something obviously provocative, it's easy to see, and can't be that hard to deal with. Would it have been that difficult to tell him to tone down the hateful rhetoric and unprovable conspiracy talk? We've seen plenty of evidence that he can make innocuous posts about snacks and cartoons. Why not do your job as a moderator and make sure he doesn't cause problems?
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Doubtful. The only places that Sweet commonly kept in his raging assholery was the classroom, where he was likely told very bluntly that his behavior is not tolerable and will be punished. He's almost completely incapable of seeing how he's behaving is wrong, so it would take a firmness that I would not expect in anyone there. No offense to fellas like @Treenbeen and @AJMLurker ; Sweet needs to be smacked with the metaphoric lead pipe to understand things; he cannot read social cues and the like.

Locksnap said:
Quite right about the latter. I have strong doubts he'll find another place as extraordinarily tolerant towards him as AJM Studios. Whether that means he'll come back here I don't know, but I expect hes somewhere writing up a scathing statement about how the Kiwi koalas are to blame for this.
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Possibly to his webzone or to his DeviantArt. Not sure if he still has TvTropes though.
 
Well damn, I literally had no idea about what happened to the AJM forum until I came to this thread and saw Holdek's post at the top of the page.

This move by the admin is just as surprising to me as it is for you guys so I don't know the exact details behind why this happened. I will likely be dropping a line with AJM soon to discuss this though. All I know this is huge step taken by the admin, but the AJMers definitely did feel uncomfortable with the attention their forum was getting. They never were able to fully accept that you guys were archiving posts on the site, even if it was just Sweet Bro's material.

Well, I hope Jon is happy. He just lost his favorite forum to post at.
 
If he tries to join the new incarnation of AJM, they should ban his ass ASAP (ASSAP?).
 
Really, I can't say that I'm surprised. It became evident over the past month or two that Sweetums was either going to tear them apart or get banned.

I'm honestly wondering where Sweetums will go now. There's no way that he'll be able to go completely dark. Since he does the same shit over and over and over, it shouldn't take too long to find him.
 
So I was googling "Dr. Belch" to see if he has an account somewhere else we haven't found, and it turns out there's actually a lot of real doctors with the surname Belch out there. Nevertheless, I found a couple things I don't think have been posted:

-His posts on some Three Stooges forum. Mostly on topic, although there's a few political rants about liberal fartknockers in there.
-A summary page for the Kiwi thread on AJM. Don't know how useful this is, since all the links go back to the board, but maybe something can be salvaged?
-His Yahoo Answers account, in which he projects like a fucking IMAX:
Do you oppose gay marriage?
Gay marriage is a ploy. The people who tell you it doesn't matter who a person loves and we all have the same right to be happy are the same ones who throw a fit when a middle-aged man expresses a desire to return to college to enjoy the company of women 10-15 years younger than he. I wrote a story in which I satirized the whole same-sex marriage debate as a struggle between the social classes (it was easy, just substitute the word "poor" for "gay" in all the speeches and rhetoric). http://smokingcatcomicsandcollectibles2.... I think it's a sad day in America when it's a bigger scandal for a lower-class man to love an upper-class woman than it is for a man to love another man..

Im poor, and my girlfriend comes from a wealthy family?
Have you met her parents, or is she ashamed to bring you home? Do you actually go out on public dates, or just stay in your dorm room, maybe hook up for the odd quickie in a broom closets or a public bathroom now and again? That should tell you if this relationship is real or not.

How many nipples does a female dog have?
I think it also depends on breed. Smaller dogs only have room for eight. I once dated a girl with inverted nipples...maybe your dog has one of those?
This is his Yahoo profile pic:
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Sorry if any of this has been posted before.
 
LMAO


"I got trolled by a girl I thought was rich and people universally agree it's usually inappropriate for a 40 year old man to date 18 year olds"=THE SYSTEM WON'T ALLOW POOR PEOPLE TO DATE RICH PEOPLE AND OLDER PEOPLE TO DATE YOUNGER PEOPLE AND IT'S A BIGGER CRIME THAN BANNING GAY MARRIAGE

"Also you're poor and you're dating a rich girl? SHE MUST BE TROLLING YOU BRO cuz that's what happened to me and I can literally only comprehend the world through my own experiences and cannot fathom the possibility of understanding others' experiences."
 
ToroidalBoat said:
I haven't been keeping up with what's going on over at AJM. I'm guessing that Sweet was arguing with kiwi farmers again, it somehow escalated, and they shut the whole thing down.
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Sort of. Sweet had stayed relatively quiet recently, actually, but some of the other members were concerned that we were "monitoring" everything they wrote, despite others telling them otherwise. They never understood that Sweet was the sole focus for us reading past threads, or the concept of "public databases" (they thought we were being super-hackers finding that arrest warrant stuff, then I pointed out that it was the highlighted link on the Jonesboro Police Department web page).

Still, if these were the only concerns they could have just banned the Kiwis, so I think it was a culmination of things and they were just tired of the drama.

DrJonesHat said:
Since most conservatives tend to be older, and very straight laced, I suspect their bullshit threshold will be a lot lower. Seriously, if Sweet starts posting about his fart fetish, or lusting after underaged girls, most conservative forums will swing the banhammer without a second thought.
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Also most conservatives don't care about the TV ratings system that much, or any of Sweet's personal problems that he complains about under the guise of politics.
 
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