Hurricane Watch 2021

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How bad will the Atlantic hurricane season be in 2021?

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WD-40 said:
Flash Flood warning declared in Plaquemines Parish. Possible levee failure near Hwy 23.
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Joy, that makes the second possible failed/failing/overtopped levee of the night, the other one I've seen reported being near Jean Lafitte in LaFouche Parrish. I've rearranged the Damage Highlights section in my post to break out levee issues separately in case this snowballs like Katrina.
 
SCSI said:
Joy, that makes the second possible failed/failing/overtopped levee of the night, the other one I've seen reported being near Jean Lafitte in LaFouche Parrish. I've rearranged the Damage Highlights section in my post to break out levee issues separately in case this snowballs like Katrina.
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Quick from levee failure.
Or slowly from lack of pumps.
One way or another these lower areas are striat fucked at this point. I think we will see Katrina 2, Electric Boogaloo.
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Jump said:
Quick from levee failure.
Or slowly from lack of pumps.
One way or another these lower areas are striat fucked at this point. I think we will see Katrina 2, Electric Boogaloo.
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It feels like we've had an entire year and a half of slow, depressing misery and all the energy built up to pop out in just a few weeks.
 
Stoneheart said:
Why is the flooding so bad in New Orleans? the Leevee looks so primitive.
also why is there no buffer land build infront of the city? it should be flat enough to build something like that.
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New Orleans is basically a city built inside of a bowl. It was already low lying, on top of being below sea level and has gradually sunk over time. When the city was being built, they ran out of land and decided to drain the nearby swamps to create more buildable terrain, which also caused more sinking.

It is built between the Mississippi River and Lake Pontchartrain levees which creates the bowl effect. This has caused a lack of natural protections like barrier islands and disappearing wetlands which makes the levees necessary. For every mile of natural wetlands storm surge can be reduced up to 8 inches. Human interference has caused the wetlands and barrier islands off the coast of New Orleans to disappear at an incredible rate.
 
Jump said:
Quick from levee failure.
Or slowly from lack of pumps.
One way or another these lower areas are striat fucked at this point. I think we will see Katrina 2, Electric Boogaloo.
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I was wondering if the power outages, especially the ones that took down NO's Sewage & Water department, was going to end up affecting the pumps. I was hoping they'd had a backup plan for those but I guess not. This is not a nice combination that's forming.

Also, trying to detangle some shit -- is the HW23 near Alliance levee break in Plaquamines actually a second break in that Parrish? The alerts for that one are within the last hour or two, but I've also noticed there was an earlier reported break/overflow near Braithwate (same Parrish) around 4PM. This might actually be two breaks/overflows for that county. Asshole journos need to post maps.

Bonus -- This thread is now on the first page of results for Google.

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Azshara said:
New Orleans is basically a city built inside of a bowl. It was already low lying, on top of being below sea level and has gradually sunk over time. When the city was being built, they ran out of land and decided to drain the nearby swamps to create more buildable terrain, which also caused more sinking.

It is built between the Mississippi River and Lake Pontchartrain levees which creates the bowl effect. This has caused a lack of natural protections like barrier islands and disappearing wetlands which makes the levees necessary. For every mile of natural wetlands storm surge can be reduced up to 8 inches. Human interference has caused the wetlands and barrier islands off the coast of New Orleans to disappear at an incredible rate.
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New Orleans was entirely built on the slave trade. After the civil war all the former slaves with any intelligence or sense of anything got as far the fuck away as possible. The rest stayed. Hence New Orleans. Home to the laziest and stupidest niggers who ever lived.
 
Azshara said:
New Orleans is basically a city built inside of a bowl. It was already low lying, on top of being below sea level and has gradually sunk over time. When the city was being built, they ran out of land and decided to drain the nearby swamps to create more buildable terrain, which also caused more sinking.
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thats very normal for coastal cities. just build massiv dykes to protect the former swamps. its not rocket science...

Azshara said:
It is built between the Mississippi River and Lake Pontchartrain levees which creates the bowl effect. This has caused a lack of natural protections like barrier islands and disappearing wetlands which makes the levees necessary. For every mile of natural wetlands storm surge can be reduced up to 8 inches. Human interference has caused the wetlands and barrier islands off the coast of New Orleans to disappear at an incredible rate.
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Just build real dykes and not just those laughable walls. also why not build new islands/wetlands? you could build a big belt of barrier island on both sides of the River Mouth with some Barriers to close down when the water is pressing in from the sea. like the Delta Project in Rotterdam .
 
Stoneheart said:
thats very normal for coastal cities. just build massiv dykes to protect the former swamps. its not rocket science...


Just build real dykes and not just those laughable walls. also why not build new islands/wetlands? you could build a big belt of barrier island on both sides of the River Mouth with some Barriers to close down when the water is pressing in from the sea. like the Delta Project in Rotterdam .
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I think the idea was floated, and was rejected because it would "Destroy the view" or some shit.
 
Honka Honka Burning Love said:
So, I notice a very clear pattern about the skin color of most of the people I see calling for help.

Did..all the white people just fucking leave New Orleans after Katrina?
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No, it's just that New Orleans has always been made up of mostly black people considering it's a former slave port.
 
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Gehenna said:
I think the idea was floated, and was rejected because it would "Destroy the view" or some shit.
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So why should we feel bad for them?
there is a german proverb for this...
"Deichen oder Weichen." to build dykes or to move .
 
Stoneheart said:
So why should we feel bad for them?
there is a german proverb for this...
"Deichen oder Weichen." to build dykes or to move .
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I wouldn't think the Germans had use for such a proverb, given its the Dutch that are typically known for dikes. Are there dikes along the Baltics?
 
Save the Loli said:
Flooding isn't going to stop for quite some time since this storm is dumping a metric fuckton of water into the Mississippi River. And it's going to keep dumping water into the Mississippi since over the next few days it's going to fucking pour in Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky, Ohio, and Pennsylvania, and almost all that water all goes back into one river which goes right through New Orleans.

It's going to be fascinating to see what happens over the next few days.

If you breech a levee in the right spot, you reduce tension on the levee in other areas. In theory, it's pretty useful since it allows controlled flooding. In practice it's fucking shit because a lot of people get fucked over and who gets fucked over depends on who's doing the breaching. Supposedly this happened during Hurricane Katrina where the Corps of Engineers dynamited at least one levee and flooded a black neighborhood but looking it up to see more details shows me that it's apparently a conspiracy theory that people like Louis Farrakhan have promoted. I don't know either way, since evidence is clear the levees were poorly maintained and insufficient for the job.

However, it definitely happened in the 1927 Great Mississippi Flood when the rich people in New Orleans blew up a levee that flooded out all the poor Cajuns and shit and then the poor Cajuns ended up electing Huey Long who made damn sure to fuck over those rich assholes. Apparently that's what the Katrina levee dynamiting is based on.
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That was a pretty famous conspiracy theory I thought, I remember getting in an argument with a group of very left wing guys online when I dismissed as ridiculous, though I guess I could have been wrong.
 
Stoneheart said:
So why should we feel bad for them?
there is a german proverb for this...
"Deichen oder Weichen." to build dykes or to move .
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You know that movie trope of the bringing a guy out of jail and offering a pardon if he'll use his special talent to solve a big issue? Well, we have just the guy in prison right now who could save Louisiana from future floods. I hear he's a huge fan of dykes :biggrin:.
 
Titos said:
You know that movie trope of the bringing a guy out of jail and offering a pardon if he'll use his special talent to solve a big issue? Well, we have just the guy in prison right now who could save Louisiana from future floods. I hear he's a huge fan of dykes
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Just kidnap a bunch of Random Dutch people and give them shovels, they will instincitvly start to build Dykes.
 
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