Hurricane Watch 2021

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How bad will the Atlantic hurricane season be in 2021?


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So, I'm reading that a majority of the deaths were people "caught in flood water areas in vehicles"

Now the image they are trying to give is people driving normally suddenly engulfed by water, but... this is idiots driving into low water crossings right?

I come from an area where low water crossing hazards are fairly common, plenty of warning put on almost all dangerous spots, police barricades practically live next to them they get put up often enough, and still every big rainfall we get a few fatalities from people driving into rushing water. If a few people are dumb enough to do it here, I bet a ton of people are dumb enough to try to drive through flooding low water crossing elsewhere.
 
Sattelite imagery shows an oil spill 2 miles off the coast of Port Fourchon, Louisiana. The U.S. Coast Guard said it may be from an old pipeline owned by Talos Energy and have so far removed 42 gallons of crude oil from the 10-mile long oil slick.
Cleanup crews are working to contain what experts called a substantial oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico, according to an examination of satellite and aerial survey images, ship tracking data and interviews with local officials and others involved in the spill response.

The spill, one of multiple plumes spotted off the Louisiana coast in the wake of Hurricane Ida, was identified in satellite imagery captured Thursday by the space technology companies Planet Labs and Maxar Technologies.
A black expanse and rainbow sheen of oil spanning at least 10 miles was spreading in coastal waters about two miles off Port Fourchon, an oil and gas hub. An aerial survey image of the spill was captured Wednesday by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

The powerful hurricane, which swept through one of the nation’s largest chemical, petroleum and natural gas hubs when it made landfall on Sunday, has heightened concerns over the vulnerability of the region’s fossil fuel infrastructure to intensifying storms, which are linked to global warming driven by emissions from oil and gas.

It was unclear how much oil had spilled into the Gulf, according to a person with direct knowledge of the cleanup. The spill, possibly from an old pipeline no longer in use that was damaged by the storm, was first spotted on Monday from reconnaissance flights led by a number of Gulf Coast producers, and was reported to the Coast Guard, said the person who was not authorized to speak publicly about the cleanup effort.

Late Saturday, two more boats appeared to join the cleanup. James Hanzalik, assistant executive director of Clean Gulf Associates, a nonprofit oil spill cooperative set up by the industry, confirmed Friday afternoon that a leak was ongoing and that a cleanup was underway.
Lt. John Edwards of the U.S. Coast Guard said that the spill was believed to be crude oil from an old pipeline owned by the Houston-based oil and gas exploration company, Talos Energy. A cleanup vessel hired by Talos was using skimmers to recover the oil and had placed a containment boom in the area to try to contain the spread, he said. Talos Energy declined to comment on the record.
Coast Guard boats had not yet made it to the site, Lt. Edwards said, but the agency had been told by Talos that just 42 gallons of material had so far been recovered from the water. The agency has launched a preliminary investigation, he added.

Several experts who studied the flyover and satellite images said the spill appeared to be ongoing and significant.
“It’s a substantial leak that requires further investigation,” said Oscar Garcia-Pineda, a scientist at Water Mapping, a Gulf Breeze, Fla.-based consultancy, who has led research into the use of satellite and aerial images for oil spills. “I see an indication of thick heavy oil, which is the main dark feature, surrounded by a rainbow sheen,” he said. The flyover image from Wednesday, appeared to show the leak starting underwater.

The area was known for being dense with pipelines, and in the past powerful storms have caused mudslides that can damage pipes or even the foundations of platforms that hold equipment that pumps oil and gas out of the seabed, he said.

Cathleen E. Jones, a scientist at NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif., who has been participating in flyovers to assess storm damage, said the images suggested very thick oil was leaking, and that more investigation was needed.

In a case like this where you clearly have thick oil, you can calculate the area, but what you don’t know is how thick it is,” she said. But based on the color, she said, “that’s a very, very thick slick.”

The likely origin of the Talos spill was first spotted by John Scott-Railton, a senior researcher at The Citizen Lab, a research center based at the University of Toronto, who had been scrutinizing the images of Ida’s damage.

“The fact that it was possible to find this spill is owed to the fact that NOAA made aerial imagery publicly available,” he said. “Had NOAA not made that public, it would have been a lot harder to uncover what is clearly an unfolding environmental problem.”

The Associated Press reported Wednesday that there appeared to be a long oil slick off the Louisiana shore, several miles east of the Talos spill. It was unclear whether that slick was related.

Flyover and satellite imagery showed multiple other slicks along the Louisiana coast. The person with knowledge of the cleanup said that it was possible that leaks from other sources were also contributing to the plume.

The U.S. Bureau of Safety and Environmental Enforcement, which regulates offshore oil and gas platforms, said in a media update that as of Friday morning, workers had been evacuated from 133 production platforms and six drilling rigs. More than 90 percent of oil and gas production in the Gulf was still shut down, the agency said.

The bureau’s update did not mention the ongoing cleanup. After inspections are carried out, production from facilities with no damage “will be brought back online immediately,” it said. Calls to the bureau, as well as the Louisiana Department of Environmental Quality, were not answered.

A spokeswoman for the Environmental Protection Agency, Janie Acevedo-Beauchamp, referred questions to the Coast Guard, which handles spills in coastal waters. The E.P.A. remained “committed to deploying resources at our disposal to help communities impacted by the storm,” she said.

Naomi Yoder, a staff scientist with Healthy Gulf, an environmental group based in New Orleans, said the spill was the latest sign that the pollution unleashed by the hurricane was widespread. “The corporations that are poisoning our communities must be held accountable, and must reverse this catastrophe,” she said.

A report published earlier this year by the U.S. Government Accountability Office found that since the 1960s, federal regulators have allowed oil and gas producers in the Gulf to leave some 18,000 miles of pipeline on the seafloor. Those pipelines, about 97 percent of the decommissioned ones in the area, are often abandoned without cleaning or burial.

In 2004, Hurricane Ivan destroyed an oil platform about 10 miles off the Louisiana coast. It triggered what is still the longest oil spill in United States history.

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The NYC metro is such a hellscape. It's really much, much different than it was 25 years ago. It's fucking HUGE and it goes on forever in every direction. Driving into the boroughs from any side is horrifying. The sprawl and enormity of the development is just unreal, and it starts many miles away from the city itself.

That said this wasn't even much of a weather event. It was kind of a lot of rain but I'm pretty sure it was typical in the context of cyclical weather phenomena. The problem is that there's now twice as many buildings, twice as many cars, twice as many people, and all stacked on the same original infrastructure. Mechanical problems only ever get worse. They have to be fixed. Without repair, in this case a great deal of repair AND improvement, this shit will just keep happening and it'll happen with even less severe storms.

Climate change is just an excuse for the failure of the massive urban model, especially in low-lying coastal areas. Turns out it's really a LOT more expensive and maintenance-intensive than they thought it would be.
 
New York City is in a really unfortunate position geographically for a metropolis. The civil engineers in charge of modernizing the city in the wake of the Industrial Revolution probably never expected the place to become the financial capital of what would become the most powerful country in the world half a century later, nor did they anticipate commercial air travel and less stringent foreign policy measures allowing immigration from literally every corner of the world to exacerbate the city's population to rival that of most countries, along with the infrastructure required to maintain such a large number of permanent residents.

Anyway, without powerlevelling too much, I grew up in an East Coast city that actually takes preventative measures in the event of hurricanes like Ida and Sandy, unlike these limpdick blame-shifters helming NYC. We have a massive hurricane barrier that prevents excess flooding from the bay into the river, not to mention the foundations along the river are at least ten feet above sea level. Ida still hit hard, but no one has died according to the local newspapers and associated press.
 
Not to be a nerd, but the irl location Braithwaite Manor from RDR2 was based off of was fucked up by the storm.

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Sammy's growing up by the hour.

"The National Hurricane Center said the storm was “small but dangerous” and was forecast to become a Category 4 hurricane by Sunday.
“Additional strengthening is expected over the next day or so,” the center said.
The hurricane was just under 1,100 miles east-southeast of the Northern Leeward Islands as of 11 a.m. Eastern time on Saturday, moving at 10 miles per hour, with maximum sustained winds of 120 m.p.h., according to the center.
The Saffir-Simpson scale classifies major hurricanes as Category 3 or higher, with maximum sustained winds above 110 m.p.h.
The swells generated by the hurricane were forecast to reach the Lesser Antilles early next week and have the potential to cause life-threatening surf and rip current conditions, the center said.
Beyond the swells, it was “still too early to tell what impacts might occur in the United States,” Dennis Feltgen, a meteorologist at the hurricane center in Miami, said on Saturday.
Sam, which formed on Thursday in the central Atlantic, is the fourth named storm to develop in less than a week and the 18th overall in a busy 2021 Atlantic hurricane season."
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/09/24/us/hurricane-sam-path-tracker.html
 
Sorry to bring back this old thread from the dead but we got to see what Hurricane Idalia will do to Florida.

CNN —
Hurricane Idalia is expected to intensify considerably as it heads toward Florida, where officials already have told people to flee, closed schools and shuttered a major airport ahead of a predicted landfall Wednesday along the Gulf Coast.

With powerful winds and life-threatening storm surge, the hurricane is due to hit at Category 3 strength, and millions are under storm warnings as Idalia may bust precedent as the first major hurricane in at least 172 years to track into Apalachee Bay in the sparsely populated Big Bend region, according to the National Hurricane Center and its Tallahassee office.

The National Guard is on call and evacuations underway as the storm could deliver a devastating blow to parts of Florida’s Gulf Coast. It is expected to make landfall well north of Tampa, though a small shift in the track could put that vulnerable population center more at risk.

Urban search and rescue teams are on standby from the Federal Emergency Management Agency, while the Army Corps of Engineers is set to support power generation missions, FEMA Administrator Deanne Criswell told “CNN This Morning” on Tuesday.

Beware of flood risk and heed evacuation orders, she told those in the path, as state and local officials reminded residents they often don’t have to go far – tens of miles, versus hundreds – to get to higher, safer ground.
 
I've been Florida for 4 years or so, I've gotten nothing but Nothing Burgers as far as storms go.
 
I've been Florida for 4 years or so, I've gotten nothing but Nothing Burgers as far as storms go.
I know a number of really old oldfags who live in Florida and every few years they take five figures in damages from random shit and have to wait almost a year for it to get fixed.
 
I've been Florida for 4 years or so, I've gotten nothing but Nothing Burgers as far as storms go.
I'm getting real tired of hearing "more active hurricane season". Every year we're supposed to get ass raped by storms but I swear I haven't seen a good storm season since 2017 and that's only because I lived through Harvey. It's fucking hot and dry, so at this point give me a Cat69 so we can get some damn rain.
 
I'm getting real tired of hearing "more active hurricane season". Every year we're supposed to get ass raped by storms but I swear I haven't seen a good storm season since 2017 and that's only because I lived through Harvey. It's fucking hot and dry, so at this point give me a Cat69 so we can get some damn rain.
As long as you don't get flooded like in New Orleans when Hurricane Katrina passed there in 2005.
 
People seem to be adapting well.
 
Some people jumped on this opportunity from what I read on that article.

Florida Gas Stations Receive Contaminated Fuel Right Before Hurricane Idalia Makes Landfall​

The Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services (FDACS) has reported fuel contamination could impact residents who are evacuating from Florida’s coast.

FDACS reported fuel contamination has occurred at dozens of gas stations that were serviced by the Port of Tampa.

In a press release, FDACS revealed, “Any fuel purchased after 10 a.m. on Saturday, August 26, at stations supplied by Citgo from the Port of Tampa has a strong likelihood of being contaminated with diesel fuel.”

Governor Ron DeSantis also weighed in on the situation and stated the fuel contamination stemmed from a human error.

DeSantis further explained, “They put diesel in tanks that were supposed to be regular gas.”
Talk about a coincidence or should I said "cohencidence".
 
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