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Part 5 has the most kills and the most titties of any installment, plus some of the more iconic goofy scenes. I don't know what's not to like, really (outside of people who take the entire series much to seriously).

Part 9 has the best opening, and some good ideas to stretch out the series, but has two fatal flaws - it's pretty boring, and they made Creighton Duke a nigger.
 
other than Maniac, are there any horror movies where the killer kills themselves?
Antropophagus AKA The Grim Reaper is probably the best example of a horror movie where the killer kills themselves.
Grim Reaper.webp
 
I've grown to like Part 5 more over the years. Jason Goes to Hell, on the other hand, I still find mostly retarded and boring.
 
so the wife is watching All Of Us Are Dead, sorta more Train To Busan type stuff
I'm like "what if you did the gay porno: Train To Bussy"
 
Just got back from watching Bring Her Back. It's not a very scary movie, but it's not a bad movie. Like Hereditary, it's more sad than frightening, but it's not nearly as boring. Apparently the movie was intended to have a more "horror" ending and when a friend of the filmmakers died they adjusted it to be a more emotional ending. I don't think this was the right move. If you go into it with more of an expectation for a drama with some frightening/intense moments I think that's the better approach.
I found the end really tonally jarring and I guess that would explain why. It didn't feel like the moment the rest of the movie had been building up to. Still a good watch.
 
Now which of the least favorite in the series would you rather watch, Part 5 or Part 9?
I respect both for trying to do something different with the formula. And out of those two I especially like how Freddy makes a cameo at the end of 9, and the actual crossover movie happens much later.
I would rather binge 5 and 9 than watch the reboot.
 
I caught bits and pieces of All Of Us Are Dead from Worst Korea
basically The Fast Running Dead, miniseries
usual ROK style "very formula, very polished"
looked pretty decent, wife dug it a lot
she said it should have been the Train To Busan sequal/prequel/etcs
 
I do find it funny that both Halloween and Friday the 13th have an installment where the protagonist becomes the killer in an ending twist, only for it to be completely ignored in the next film because everyone realized how fucking stupid that was.
 
I do find it funny that both Halloween and Friday the 13th have an installment where the protagonist becomes the killer in an ending twist, only for it to be completely ignored in the next film because everyone realized how fucking stupid that was.
I like the ending of Halloween 4, but it's not a good setup for a sequel.

Friday 5 is funny because there was apparently a whole minute where they thought it would be too dumb and lazy for Jason to come back to life. They they just went "fuck it" and didn't even try to think of a real explanation.
 
I finished Generation Z, the Ben Wheatley zombie "dark comedy" series. It wasn't good by any stretch - the same shit that's wrong with everything else these days - but it did have some pretty unique takes on the genre (along with many trope/reverse-trope things). First off, just like everything else, all the "protagonists" are completely insufferable. The four main teens have literally no redeeming qualities. They're unlikeable, shiftless, retarded, useless...so I guess that's at least pretty realistic (also two of them are mutts, which doesn't help). Also their acting is pretty sub standard. They do all the same things zombie protags always do...splitting up, not arming themselves, not dealing with things, letting their guard down at the most inappropriate times. Although it seemed quite particularly BAD in this since there was a small gap between episodes where I literally had to go back to the previous episode to make sure I wasn't crazy. Like they knew about the infected and somewhat of how they worked (or at least that they were trying to eat the teens) at the end of an episode, but then in the next episode it picks up chronologically right afterwards, and they act like they didn't know what was going on. I wasn't crazy, it's just that stupid. Even on two watches I couldn't figure out if they were supposed to be THAT thick, or if it was just bad writing.

The next generation up, their parents, are just as bad, and the acting is even worse. Johnny Vegas is completely out of place, thankfully (for him) only used sparingly. His life is a dark comedy, he's not supposed to be in them. The sheboon mom actually breaks stereotypes by being a legit piece of shit, instead of a super black woman who's good at everything, so that was refreshing, I guess. The four fathers are - dead, Johnny Vegas (utterly useless), Scottish blusterer who, although he at least tries, is utterly useless, and literal drug dealing pedophile step-dad. I mean granted the moms aren't any better, just varying ranges of stupid (even the fucking nurse); but at least their performances are a lot better. This generation also has two random drug dealers who are by far the best characters and actors of the lot, and I really wish the series revolved around them. They have an arc even!

And then there's the old people. Now this is what almost makes the show worth watching. It's a really great take on zombies/infected...kind of a cross between Cocoon, ROTLD and Omega Man (with enough unique stuff rolled into it). They are aware they're zombie cannibals, but it makes them feel better than being old, and they even debate about it. They get most of the actual comedic parts, and they are acted well across the board (although to be fair, they do get by far the most to do). Only one of the infected ever cucks out of anything, and they actually do keep pushing their boundaries in a pretty entertaining manner.

The plot is pretty bog standard (chemical spill, zombies start, people are retarded, military tries to contain, fails, bombs everything), but there's a lot of good OTT gore in it. And then every so often there's just enough Wheatley-isms sprinkled that kept me somewhat entertained. Like the Colonel that's in charge of the containment and his arc is really great, and it actually pissed me off that he got done dirty at the end (he was the only character I actually liked). But even that's done in a goofy way, not in a mean or shitty one.

There's the 30 minute left turn during the last episode where he decides to shoe-horn in a Shirley Jackson morality play for no reason. And it would've REALLY worked if the Jean D'Arc stand in had been in any way a decent actress or just had the tiniest shred of charisma. Even so, there's still some hilarious parts of that thread, and I'm a huge fan of The Gauntlet. Like literally if it was just a decent actress then I would recommend this show based on that episode alone, but she's so utterly terrible.

Also this is in annoying male feminist territory. EVERY single faction is run and pushed by women. The men are just there to be pushed around and used, and it's hugely noticeable, and part of the reason why everything is so annoying. I mean the women aren't, by any measure, competent themselves, except when measured against just how useless the men are. There's a couple exceptions - the drug dealers (who don't really interact with any women), the antagonist/anti-hero (for trope reasons), and the Colonel (who in my head cannon insisted on not being a cuck or he wasn't going to be in it). I get it, it's ostensibly a comedy, so everyone is supposed to be retarded, but when it's just the same thing repeated across all 3 generational groups, it's pretty fucking boring.

So I don't know. I guess if you like Ben Wheatley, or just don't fucking hate modern teen protagonists as much as I do, then I can probably recommend this. The old people across the board are outstanding, and, like I said, the zombie take is fun and interesting. Maybe 2 hours of the 4.5 hour run time is actually good, and then you just have to sit through the rest of it. The ending's not great, but at least it's satisfying. Great and fun gore, no titties...I don't know....2.5 out of 5? Feels like the potential of this was just ruined by casting and a slightly padded run time.
 
Saw 28 Years Later last night, rewatched the first 2 right before but it turns out that wasn't necessary. They handwave retcon what happened at the end of 28 weeks later so the focus can remain on Britian.

Unfinished messy 1/3rd of an apparent Trilogy. Opening scene was very rushed, and you're immediately hit with the theme that is dominant in modern horror these days: parents are the real horror and Christianity is evil.

We get a text dump explaining Britian had been quarantined by NATO for 28 years. Since 28 weeks isn't considered canon by Boyle, the concept of Infected dying off from starvation is ignored, and there are different evolutions of infected, such as bloated, blue, slow asians crawling on their bellies, and 9 feet tall intelligent Arabs with massive wangs who perform MK Fatalities. Infected take orders from the big 'Alpha's, attempt to clean themselves in rivers, and even give birth to non-infected babies.

The first half of the movie shows a Dad cooking his son (Spike) breakfast and dealing with his mentally and physically sick wife. He takes his son from their fortified island, across a coral causeway onto the mainland to learn how to kill Infected. He repeatedly saves his panicky son from death while still encouraging him to focus and achieve the sole purpose of their journey.

There is also a really bizarre sequence with B-roll of medieval archers, footage from 'Code Red' during 28 Weeks later, and Infrared nightvision showing infected killing deer while Kiplings poem 'Boots' is recited. Over reliance on iphone-shot Bullet time during the action. Heavy art student vibes.

After hiding in an attic from infected, they notice the Alpha watching them for several hours and also see a fire in the distance. The house randomly collapses so they run back to the causeway which is knee-deep. The Alpha decides he wants to kill so Forrest Gump runs after the father and son, leading to a silly chase along the causeway.

The Alpha gets harpooned with an exploding spear and island inhabitants throw a giant party for Spike. The Dad talks up his son as being a cool giga-chad, then goes off to eat some random girls pussy. Spike sees and gets upset that his Dad didn't expose him as a bitch, then bugs an old man about seeing the fire. The old man says the fire belongs to a Doctor. Spike seethes that his Dad didn't tell him there was an insane doctor who collects dead bodies, because the Doctor would obviously cure his sick mother. His dad smacks him for being lippy.

Spike burns down the shack with dwindling supplies full of signs begging people to not be selfish, so everyone would be distracted, and he could sneak his sick mother out across the causeway and find the Doctor. They sleep in an old castle and Spike nearly dies to a blue bloated zombie, but his sick dying Mother somehow wakes up at the last second and kills it with a bag.

We're then shown 8 soldiers landing on a rocky beach in an inflatable watercraft. All but one are killed by Infected, and that one manages to save Spike and Mother from Vicks Vapor Rub fumes. The soldier is an Americanised Swede named Eric who wants to fuck his Stacy girlfriend.

Despite the mother being really sick, Spike lets her wander off onto a train alone for several minutes, where she finds a Pregnant Infected. The Pregfected is cognizant of being pregnant so forms a temporary truce with the Mother. After the successfully disgusting birth, Pregfected flips out, Eric shoots her then demands they drop the baby so he can kill it as well. The Alpha performs his finishing move on Eric, then chases Spike, Mother and Baby while Spike pops him with arrows. The Doctor blow darts the Alpha with a morphine needle and leads them to his Bone Temple.

The doctor somehow managed to live out in the open with a semi-permanent fire, cooking corpses for over a decade, building a giant death shrine, covered in iodine and wielding a blowgun with morphine needles. He diagnoses the Mother with cancer and tells Spike to always remember that everyone dies. He later also tells him to remember that everyone loves. The Mother confesses she knew she had cancer, rendering the entire journey pointless, then silently agrees with the Doctor to euthanise her. Spike is shot with a morphine dart and given the baby while the Doctor melts down the Mothers' corpse. He gives Spike her skull and tells him to place it in the most important spot, which forces Spike to climb a 30 foot mountain of skulls at the crack of dawn.

The Alpha then literally appears on the horizon charging at them. Spike, Doctor and Baby instantly dive into a hidden room in the ground. The Alpha punches through the ground and grabs the Doctor, but Spike stabs him with another morphine needle and they escape. The Doctor tells Spike to take the baby back to his island, but instead Spike leaves the baby at the causeway door with a note explaining he is heccin' independent and doesn't need his stupid Dad anymore. The Dad runs onto the causeway screaming for his son.

We get a "28 days later" text, then Spike cooking fish on the side of a road. An infected appears and goes for Spike, who headshots it with an arrow. More infected arrive so Spike runs down the road and comes up against a rock barrier sealing off the road. The infected approach, but suddenly a pale, blonde-haired, purple tracksuit wearing nonce appears, followed by more similar looking weirdos. They start doing backflips and kung-fu kicking the infected. Turns out the leader is Jimmy, the kid from the start.

The movie ends.
 
I've been reading comics since I was a teenager, so it's been about 30 years by the way I figure it. Yeah, I'm very old. I stopped reading cape comics years ago for a number of reasons, and not the least of which is shit like this. The people the Big Two, DC and Marvel, hire to write their comics are many things: self-absorbed know-it-alls, sexual deviants, virtue signaling addicts, loud-mouthed midwits, and just plain "faggots" in every sense of the word, sexual and otherwise. But one of the things they are guilty of the most is thinking that everything they touch is the apex of human creation. You can see it whenever they reference anything else, and it's 100% the root of that meme, "My fictional character would hate your politics." In this case, it's a matter of "Your horror killers are stupid and lame because I'm allowed to beat them them up with dudes who're literally made out of rocks and fire. Your enigmatic puzzle box is stupid and lame because I'm a retard and I think science is literally both a religion and magic, so my heckerino' SCIENCE! man is the bestest EVAR." And don't even get me started on Sue, who is already the biggest badass boss bitch ever (DID YOU KNOW SHE ONCE BEAT UP THE HULK ALL BY HERSELF?!?!?!) and Marvisney is about to catapult the character to levels of "YAAAS KWEENING" we previously thought impossible, mark my words.
 
Happy 50th birthday Jaws. Because of your book movie sharks got a bad rep, but we also got Shark Week, and 6 Sharknado movies.
 
Unfinished messy 1/3rd of an apparent Trilogy. Opening scene was very rushed, and you're immediately hit with the theme that is dominant in modern horror these days: parents are the real horror and Christianity is evil.
I was never big into the series, but what a terrible way to start off the continuation.
 
In this case, it's a matter of "Your horror killers are stupid and lame because I'm allowed to beat them them up with dudes who're literally made out of rocks and fire. Your enigmatic puzzle box is stupid and lame because I'm a retard and I think science is literally both a religion and magic, so my heckerino' SCIENCE! man is the bestest EVAR."
Plus the Tall Man would solo the Fantastic 4 with prep time
 
Saw 28 Years Later last night, rewatched the first 2 right before but it turns out that wasn't necessary. They handwave retcon what happened at the end of 28 weeks later so the focus can remain on Britian.
Watched it too myself recently. It was ok, a little too stylistic for me.
The pregnancy part looked like something from the 2004 Dawn Of The Dead. Which folks back then felt ripped off 28 Days. I am disappointed we didn't see the three from the first movie.
 
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