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I heard Adam Marcus tried to make a Freddy vs Jason script, in his version Duke appears again and plays an active role, but it never got picked up. Much like his ambitions for a new movie. By the way Duke did have an appearance in the novelization of Freddy vs Jason but only in a flashback and one of Freddy's mind games that's it.
 
PS1gamenwatch said:
I heard Adam Marcus tried to make a Freddy vs Jason script, in his version Duke appears again and plays an active role, but it never got picked up. Much like his ambitions for a new movie. By the way Duke did have an appearance in the novelization of Freddy vs Jason but only in a flashback and one of Freddy's mind games that's it.
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Honestly think Creighton Duke is Adam Marcus's waifu. He wants to own the chuds by having gay sex with a gay Black manly man. So he's supposed to be a bounty hunter that specializes in undead serial killers or something? Fan favorite character from fan favorite film, sure.
 
Calandrino said:
Honestly think Creighton Duke is Adam Marcus's waifu. He wants to own the chuds by having gay sex with a gay Black manly man. So he's supposed to be a bounty hunter that specializes in undead serial killers or something? Fan favorite character from fan favorite film, sure.
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He said he was to be a tribute to George Romero casting black heroes in his films. Problem is, all Duke ever did was talk, get arrested, stay in jail, talk, break fingers, talk, stay in jail, break out of jail, kidnap a baby, talk, hand an Evil Dead inspired weapon, talk, and lastly get back broken. Shouldn't he be written as a hero?
 
PS1gamenwatch said:
He said he was to be a tribute to George Romero casting black heroes in his films. Problem is, all Duke ever did was talk, get arrested, stay in jail, talk, break fingers, talk, stay in jail, break out of jail, kidnap a baby, talk, hand an Evil Dead inspired weapon, talk, and lastly get back broken. Shouldn't he be written as a hero?
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Duke was my biggest disappointment in that movie, because he sounds like such a neat silly idea and nothing is done with it. Like the idea of a group of bounty hunters going after supernatural slashers could be a fun idea for a bunch of crossover movies.
 
PS1gamenwatch said:
I heard Adam Marcus tried to make a Freddy vs Jason script, in his version Duke appears again and plays an active role, but it never got picked up. Much like his ambitions for a new movie. By the way Duke did have an appearance in the novelization of Freddy vs Jason but only in a flashback and one of Freddy's mind games that's it.
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The writer and director has told many a tall tale over his "misunderstood" entry in the franchise.


Some chestnuts from this interview I'm going off of memory:

He confirms that originally it was supposed to focus on Jason's incest brother who eats hearts. He tiptoes around the fact that the movie was shot with this angle and filming was suspended once New Line Cinema got wind that the movie wouldn't have Jason. All of which resulted in filming being paused over a weekend so the script could be re-written.

He claims he wanted to use CGI to add a digital hockey mask on the possessed Jason bodies (whatever you want to call them).

He claims Sean Cunningham wanted to do a Friday the 13th movie without the hockey mask. This claim might actually be true.

He claims his previous movie, My Boyfriend's Back, was originally a movie about the AIDS metaphor which is hard to believe considering the movie ended up being a teen comedy but this is Hollywood so I chalk this up as being plausible.

He claims people hated Jason Goes to Hell only when the internet became a thing. This is just cope.

He claims that after the movie came #2 opening weekend (and dropped to #11 the following weekend before falling out of the box office charts completely) that Steven Spielberg called him and wanted a meeting. I think the guy is going off of a similar story from Renny Harlin when he directed Elm Street 4 but Renny's anecdote is infinitely more believable because Elm Street 4 opened at #1, stayed at #1 for 3 weeks straight, and (unadjusted for inflation) was the highest grossing film in the franchise at that point... Not to mention that Spielberg is a horror fan. That was a big reason he sought Tobe Hooper to "direct" Poltergeist because Spielberg is a big fan of TCM. Not to mention that Jason Goes to Hell had done only lukewarm box office and just barely hit the 'break even' barrier.

Edit: to give you guys an idea, this is the same chuckle fuck who co-wrote the script for Texas Chainsaw 3D:


He swears up and down that he didn't write the line but I have my doubts.

2nd edit: here's the Indiegogo the guy held and there's still no release date but he's claiming that filming has been completed and they're wrapping it up: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/hearts-of-darkness-the-making-of-the-final-friday#/
 
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Calandrino said:
Besides being bad in general, JGTH and Chainsaw 3D are both blatantly patched together with reshot scenes working from different scripts. Doubtful that would happen to one director twice by pure coincidence.
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I was about to say but had to stop myself from editing my post again. When you think about it you realize that both movies have roughly the same problem: nothing makes any sense at all.
 
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Rewatching A Tale of Two Sisters. It very much reminded me of Angela Carter. Love me some fairy tales. Bittersweet ending though. Love the actress playing the stepmother.
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I can't speak for the Angela Carter comparison but A Tale of Two Sisters is so good. The bit with the girl at the end of the bed makes my hair stand on edge or the bit in the kitchen. That movie is so good at being creepy.
 

Coming out from Sweden, from the guy who wrote Let the Right One In (which I really like - even the American is pretty well done, but lacks some of the bleakness of the original). The trailer looks really good, and supposedly it's already been screened at a few festivals, but I haven't heard much about it. Cautiously optimistic, cause it's just my kind of bleak and depressing horror, hopefully punctuated by some gory and shocking violence.

My biggest fear is that it is directed by a young female director who has only directed a couple of shorts, and I've been REALLY let down by literally every female horror directed horror movie in the past few years. So it will probably be shit, but at least I can watch it in my head movies.
 
I'm struggling to think of any good female horror directors and there's just nothing. NB4 someone brings up the Soska Sisters but their movies are pretty bad but not on par with Things (1989). They crossed the threshold of competence.

Other than that... Uhm... A chick directed Slumber Party Massacre... Uhm... Doris Wishman directed Tenement?

That's about it. I refuse to count Near Dark. That movie sucks.
 
BrunoMattei said:
I'm struggling to think of any good female horror directors and there's just nothing.
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Julia Ducournau comes to mind, although she's only done 2 films and they're both body horror which is a subgenre that often doesn't feel to me like proper horror.
BrunoMattei said:
That's about it. I refuse to count Near Dark. That movie sucks.
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This is wild coming from someone who recommended that piece of dogshit Friday the 13th remake.
 
Babadook was a good movie. It's made worse by all the baggage put onto it after the fact, but if you take it just as is, it's a good horror movie that stays true to its roots while still putting in a lot of unique and innovative stuff.

I think it caused a lot of problems because Jennifer Kent was first and foremost trying to make a horror movie, but necessarily told it from a female perspective, and added in the dread of an actual female in that situation. Unfortunately, since then, it seems every single female director has taken up the flag of the second part (focusing on the female perspective) while utterly forgetting the first, and more important part (making an actual horror movie). It's just lazy and band-wagonning, trying to skip the actual craftsmanship, history, and understanding of the genre while getting a free pass to the front of the line.
 
BrunoMattei said:
I'm struggling to think of any good female horror directors and there's just nothing. NB4 someone brings up the Soska Sisters but their movies are pretty bad but not on par with Things (1989). They crossed the threshold of competence.

Other than that... Uhm... A chick directed Slumber Party Massacre... Uhm... Doris Wishman directed Tenement?

That's about it. I refuse to count Near Dark. That movie sucks.
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There's got to be some. I know there are some great women in FXs, like Milicent Patrick that created the GilMan.
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Now I'm going to look too, maybe some directed some older movies, or foreign movies.
 
Almighty Kevin said:
Julia Ducournau comes to mind, although she's only done 2 films and they're both body horror which is a subgenre that often doesn't feel to me like proper horror.

This is wild coming from someone who recommended that piece of dogshit Friday the 13th remake.
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Raw was okay. Titane sucked. And Near Dark sucks because the main character is a charisma black hole and the cure for vampirism being a god damn blood transfusion is bullshit and killed the movie.

Vampirella said:
There's got to be some. I know there are some great women in FXs, like Milicent Patrick that created the GilMan.
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Now I'm going to look too, maybe some directed some older movies, or foreign movies.
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A chick also did the makeup for the first Toxic Avenger and designed Toxie's makeup.
 
Your Starter for 10 said:
Babadook was a good movie. It's made worse by all the baggage put onto it after the fact, but if you take it just as is, it's a good horror movie that stays true to its roots while still putting in a lot of unique and innovative stuff.

I think it caused a lot of problems because Jennifer Kent was first and foremost trying to make a horror movie, but necessarily told it from a female perspective, and added in the dread of an actual female in that situation. Unfortunately, since then, it seems every single female director has taken up the flag of the second part (focusing on the female perspective) while utterly forgetting the first, and more important part (making an actual horror movie). It's just lazy and band-wagonning, trying to skip the actual craftsmanship, history, and understanding of the genre while getting a free pass to the front of the line.
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I'd say it did a good job influencing the famously lost Lon Cheney silent movie London After Midnight, especially its iconic yet terrifying Man in the Beaver Hat. But I'd say The Black Phone did a way better job doing that.
 
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