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Your Starter for 10 said:
Babadook was a good movie. It's made worse by all the baggage put onto it after the fact, but if you take it just as is, it's a good horror movie that stays true to its roots while still putting in a lot of unique and innovative stuff.

I think it caused a lot of problems because Jennifer Kent was first and foremost trying to make a horror movie, but necessarily told it from a female perspective, and added in the dread of an actual female in that situation. Unfortunately, since then, it seems every single female director has taken up the flag of the second part (focusing on the female perspective) while utterly forgetting the first, and more important part (making an actual horror movie). It's just lazy and band-wagonning, trying to skip the actual craftsmanship, history, and understanding of the genre while getting a free pass to the front of the line.
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If you want to know everything wrong with Kent's craft, just watch her second film The Nightingale.
Her films are nice looking but ultimately pretty mediocre in the writing and relentlessly on-the-nose with the messaging.
 
Almighty Kevin said:
If you want to know everything wrong with Kent's craft, just watch her second film The Nightingale.
Her films are nice looking but ultimately pretty mediocre in the writing and relentlessly on-the-nose with the messaging.
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Yeah, I'm not saying she's a great director or anything, just that Babadook was a good horror film when it came out.

Alice Lowe's Prevenge was great as well, but, as with most others, is somewhat debatable as a horror.
 
Watched Black Christmas last night, the 1974 original.

Probably the most anticlimactic horror film I've ever seen. It's pretty easy to see why they chose the poster art, it's probably the only memorable scene in the damn thing. Did get a few laughs out of Margot Kidder's cartoonishly irresponsible character though.
 
Your Starter for 10 said:
Yeah, I'm not saying she's a great director or anything, just that Babadook was a good horror film when it came out.

Alice Lowe's Prevenge was great as well, but, as with most others, is somewhat debatable as a horror.
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Yea the Babadook was terrifying, but she is a shitty storyteller at the end of the day
 
I didn't find The Babadook that terrifying or impressive, but I only saw it for the first time this year, so maybe it's one of those "ya had to be there" things. I did enjoy the way she manipulated the audience's sympathies from for the mother in act 1 to for the son in act 2, but it felt like as the horror ramped up in the final act, the writing completely fell apart.

By that same token, a movie I saw people calling a shittier Babadook, The Monster from 2016, I thought was a lot better with the whole family drama smuggled into a horror film thing.
 
Almighty Kevin said:
I didn't find The Babadook that terrifying or impressive, but I only saw it for the first time this year, so maybe it's one of those "ya had to be there" things. I did enjoy the way she manipulated the audience's sympathies from for the mother in act 1 to for the son in act 2, but it felt like as the horror ramped up in the final act, the writing completely fell apart.
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I'm going to have to agree, the first two parts, really really good. IDK why the third part just kind of falls flat for me. It did look good too.
 
Almighty Kevin said:
Summary: A young American woman is sent to Rome to begin a life of service to the church, but encounters a darkness that causes her to question her faith and uncovers a terrifying conspiracy that hopes to bring about the birth of evil incarnate.

They've already fucked up imo by hiring a first time feature director to do it. Rarely does that seem to work out.

Tim Smith (producer of Brand New Cherry Flavor) wrote it with Keith Thomas (director of The Vigil / Firestarter remake), and Ralph Ineson and Bill Nighy are in the cast. Nell Tiger Free is the lead, she was in Game of Thrones but I don't remember her at all.
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Nell Tiger Free is the lead in AppleTV horror series Servant. That show kind of crumpled in its 4th & final season, but I really dug it and she impressed me. Casting her in a prequel of The Omen makes me think she’s in danger of being typecast as she’s sort of a Damien type character in Servant, though not completely evil.
 
GilaCutter said:
Watched Black Christmas last night, the 1974 original.

Probably the most anticlimactic horror film I've ever seen. It's pretty easy to see why they chose the poster art, it's probably the only memorable scene in the damn thing. Did get a few laughs out of Margot Kidder's cartoonishly irresponsible character though.
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I think Black Christmas has aged beautifully. The disturbingly patient cinematography feels like such a breath of fresh air in this current age of TikTok-brained quick cut editing and shitty jumpscares. Also the characters are all very well written and, for the most part, all feel three-dimensional.

For example early in the film right after the first murder, the camera is at the stairs looking up at the top floor, we see the killer's legs as it slowly pans away from his slow walk in the opposite direction, it faces the wall and keeps panning and by the time we get back to where he was, we see the attic hatch sliding closed. It's such an uneventful moment but so creepy and effective.

Every time I rewatch Black Christmas I become more and more enamoured by the film's structure.
 
Lunar Eclipse Paradox said:
Also. I absolutely admire Black Metal Veins
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Black Metal Veins is great to show the slow deterioration of junkies but Valentine just couldn't help but put his dumb stages scenes in it.

Almighty Kevin said:
The only things I remember about the '09 remake of Friday the 13th are the annoying characters, and the retarded shaky cam and jumpcut editing during the scenes of violence, damn near ruining them. Shaky cam is the worst technique ever introduced to cinema.

You don't remember that chick's stupendous tits?
 
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Almighty Kevin said:
America Olivo's awful implants. :story:
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Nah, this part

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Never thought I'd see praise for The Babadook and scorn for Black Christmas on the same page. State of this place.
 
Are there any good horror recommendation sites? I've tried various movie rec sites but with horror they tend to just funnel me into the standard answers. I've seen a shocking amount of horror so I'm looking for the really esoteric shit
 
Doubly Punished Snigger said:
Are there any good horror recommendation sites? I've tried various movie rec sites but with horror they tend to just funnel me into the standard answers. I've seen a shocking amount of horror so I'm looking for the really esoteric shit
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Tubi is your best bet. As far as sites with good recommendations, you're looking at a good source right here. Your best bet is horror message boards and maybe other social media but the mainstream horror sites are all awful and very woke now unfortunately.
 
BrunoMattei said:
Tubi is your best bet. As far as sites with good recommendations, you're looking at a good source right here. Your best bet is horror message boards and maybe other social media but the mainstream horror sites are all awful and very woke now unfortunately.
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I check tubi pretty frequently, but it's been dry lately.
A few years ago, Amazon Prime was amazing for B-horror movies. It really felt like they grabbed up every cheap movie they could get their hands on, but that's seemingly no longer the case.
 
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