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I went into Killer Shrews knowing nothing except that they used dogs to play the shrews and it was used for a MST3K episode. But George Romero obviously borrowed heavily from it for NotLD. The similarities between certain scenes are pretty strong. For a 50s movie with clearly visible boom mics it's not bad.
I love Killer Shrews, easily one of my favorite films of that kind. Other than the cheap effects it's basically a great film. Easily the kind of thing you could show to somebody who doesn't otherwise like 50s Sci Fi Horror films. Kinda baffling that it was produced and released back to back with The Giant Gila Monster, which is probably the worst film of that kind.
I still prefer Full Metal Jacket
Anyone who says this you can pretty much instantly disregard anything they have to say about Kubrick. FMJ is a fine film, but easily his most accessible. Maybe if they're a vet, but other than that it shouldn't really be anyone's favorite.
 
Just watched Sleepaway Camp 2 and 3. Part two is leaning into dumb comedy rather than the original's tongue in cheek. Especially funny for farmers, in the beginning one guy even laments how taxpayer dollars were spent to transition Angela.

Part three's gone into pure campiness, which is fine, it was fun if a bit more boring. I liked Angela's memory from part two when s/he gets the award, which is a totally different recreated embellishment of the scene with none of the actors from part two. (Good sticking to continuity with the Camp Rolling Hills t-shirts.) Sadly in part three you can really tell the censorship in strange cuts to the violence. The films were shot back to back, but this is not like Back to the Future or Lord of the Rings. All the money was spent on part two and part three is cheap as hell. Surprisingly never even mentions the transgender stuff.

Part three features a cast so multiracial you would think they were the Burger King Kids Club. Special props to the black dude who always listens to his 'rap' tapes which is just a Casio keyboard demo mode on infinite repeat. He's also got headphones down around his neck which he never uses even though people keep asking him to turn his boom box down.

Part two is very excessive especially pushing the boundaries for topless babes and fake sex in an R-rated movie. Part three ... also lots and lots of tits.

I'm not sure if I could classify these sequels as horror, as there is absolutely no suspense or fear. Just goofy tranny killing spree. The opening sequence in part three really takes the cake-- Angela runs down a girl with a garbage truck and skinwalks her for the rest of the movie.
 
Part two is very excessive especially pushing the boundaries for topless babes and fake sex in an R-rated movie. Part three ... also lots and lots of tits.
I'm tempted to show this dude Jess Franco movies to demonstrate the difference between what is deemed to be excessive nudity in R-rated American pictures versus Eurotrash flicks.
 
I'm tempted to show this dude Jess Franco movies to demonstrate the difference between what is deemed to be excessive nudity in R-rated American pictures versus Eurotrash flicks.
By all means sir. (Bring on the boobies)

I did mean excessive in context of the late 80s MPAA puritanism, which kind of crossed over into 90s girl power and the downright disappearance of tits from American theatrical horror. However this is all working from a hypothesis of which I'm happy to be shown wrong.
 
Gentlemen, there will be no shitting on Barbarian.
Barbarian was garbage. It was the same man-hating woke trash cinema that Hollywood pumps out akin to Ghostbusters 2016. The only difference is that the first 20 minutes are solid enough to fool most people. Barbarian cracked the code for baiting midwit YouTuber reviewers with a bait n switch of thinking "You're watching a decent movie. Whoops! Men suck and are all monsters. #GIRLBOSS MOMENT" And for that, this movie is all that more malicious. Justin Long is the same character as Chris Hemsworth in Paul Faggy's Ghostbusters and is just as retarded. If anything, this movie is a litmus test for your friends. If they can't see the same woke bullcrap nonsense they've seen from Hollywood in Barbarian just because it throws a thin fresh coat of shiny paint in it, then you'red dealing with a moron. I hate this movie and I hate how well it tricked everyone.

Now give me my Late and MATI ratings.
 
By all means sir. (Bring on the boobies)

I did mean excessive in context of the late 80s MPAA puritanism, which kind of crossed over into 90s girl power and the downright disappearance of tits from American theatrical horror. However this is all working from a hypothesis of which I'm happy to be shown wrong.
You poor naïve simpleton... Tons of R-rated films from that time had way more nudity. All the sex comedies back then (especially Porky's and Animal House knockoffs) had tits everywhere practically. Even other American slashers had even more nudity like Friday the 13th part 4: the Final Chapter.

Jess Franco movies (pretty much all European cinema but Franco was known for his excess) had nudity for days. In one of his more """""revered""""" movies Female Vampire it opens with full frontal nudity of his lover Lina Romay and he zooms the camera all the way into her hairy 70's bush where you can see pussy lips.
 
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Yeah, sometimes I do question if those minute long+ close up shots of Lina Romay's bush were really necessary.
 
I'm not disputing non-American movies are free to show more nudity. That's just a given as it's not as permissable in the USA and even less as time went by. I'm talking about American movies in theaters. Surely the home video market and Tipper Gore types had a lot to do with getting nudity out of American cinema. Maybe the combination of nudity and gore would not grant R for whatever reason due to "public sensibilities changing." The ratings people are all assholes after all.

As for violence the movies you mention are all before 1988, which seems to be the year MPAA got the bee in their bonnet. See the difference Sleepaway Camp 2 (1988) and 3 (1989.) I can't remember which Friday the 13th movie, maybe part 7, that had to have a ton of stuff trimmed that would have been allowed earlier. That was about the same time.
 
I'm talking about American movies in theaters. Surely the home video market and Tipper Gore types had a lot to do with getting nudity out of American cinema
Oh, you Candide* of modern times.


*One guy is going to get that reference without looking it up. I give zero fucks.
 
Ha I was going to mention this wonderful movie but it was a bit past the 80s and not quite a slasher. Ive only seen the unrated so not sure what was in the theater.* Definitely fits the criteria though. But I imagine the MPAA gave it good boy points for being artsy. Of course Paul Verhooeven goes over the top knowing he'd have to trim it. This movie was 30+ years ago and nothing quite like it since, especially as part of the zeitgeist. Though if we are tread into the sexy/violent suspense "movies for adults" subgenre I think that's kind of different discussion anyway.

Sidenote. The sequel is sensational in the fact that it got made at all, but it's too safe and bland like an English tv movie and suffers from a bad male lead. Not sure if it was in theaters or not, and I did hear there's an x-rated cut...

*Yes I know flashing the pussy lips was world famous
 
If they can't see the same woke bullcrap nonsense they've seen from Hollywood in Barbarian just because it throws a thin fresh coat of shiny paint in it, then you'red dealing with a moron.
I wasn't sure if it was that, or if the woke bullcrap that was the thin coat of paint. Distracting that you get the sense it has to be there in 2023, one way or the other. tbh, neither Pennywise nor the cops did anything wrong.

Kinda baffling that it was produced and released back to back with The Giant Gila Monster, which is probably the worst film of that kind.
It's good that you warn me, otherwise Giant Gila Monster might have been my next stop (or maybe it will be anyway, I'm pretty dumb). I figured if Killer Shrews is supposed to be one of the worst movies ever, I can't trust Gila Monster's rep either. Well, they can't all be winners.
 
How long did the chick from Barbarian survive on diseased mutant breast milk? Months? Huh.

It would have been a very different if Justin Long walked away at the end. Cynical in a different way. Once girl jumped off the water tower and Mommy followed with a comical Darth Vader-esque "noooooo" but girl landed on top of Mommy, you can tell the movie gives up any veil of seriousness. Ending on Be My Baby. Yes, haha, we get it.

Barbarian is just dressed up shlock with social overtones to get people talking about it. However the first part was very effective and you gotta wonder what kind of movie it would be if it didn't devolve to monster in the basement stupidity.
 
Someone lobbed a Shining theory that Lorraine Massey (the bathtub hot chick turned rotten hag) is a symbol of the Overlook Hotel itself: externally beautiful and alluring, but hideous and nasty once you are in her/its clutches.

Watching it again, I agree.

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Look at his coomer face. Jack is sick of Wendy at this point, and has found a new mistress. When he makes out with her, he has surrendered himself to the Overlook. This, IMHO, is his point of no return. Even as he recoils at her decomposing form, it's too late.
 
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I just came back from Saw X, it's a definite improvement from the last few sequels, and brings back the unintentionally hilarious feeling that was missing from both Jigsaw and Spiral. Of course it's not better than the first movie as that one really can't be topped.
Yea, it's way better than Final Chapter, Jigsaw and especially Spiral for sure. I still say 6 is the better Saw movie, however.
 
is 6 the insurance one or am I thinking of 5?
Yes, 6 is the insurance one. It surprisingly was the only time it tried to be more political with its commentary on post-recession medical issues including Obamacare
 
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