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October is going to be a great month for horror: you have the Hellraiser reboot (let's hope it doesn't suck), Terrifier 2, new season of Chucky and Halloween Ends (which at the least will have some good kills and hopefully be a so bad it's good woke experience).
 
@White Devil Hey, hey now. I'm just happy to see a variety of movies for the season. It's not just Saw or one of those god awful Paranormal Activity movies. I still remember the 90's and early 00's when there weren't any horror movies released in October, Halloween movies were released around August or July for whatever asinine reason, and if you did get a horror release in October it was some bullshit like Bats. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0200469/

NO ONE REMEMBERS BATS. NO. ONE.
 
BrunoMattei said:
@White Devil Hey, hey now. I'm just happy to see a variety of movies for the season. It's not just Saw or one of those god awful Paranormal Activity movies. I still remember the 90's and early 00's when there weren't any horror movies released in October, Halloween movies were released around August or July for whatever asinine reason, and if you did get a horror release in October it was some bullshit like Bats. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0200469/

NO ONE REMEMBERS BATS. NO. ONE.
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To be fair, 90s and 00s also had very few horror movies worth a shit. Scream is probably the best out of those two decades.

Edit: Honorable mention for New Nightmare because fuck you that was an underrated movie.
 
White Devil said:
To be fair, 90s and 00s also had very few horror movies worth a shit. Scream is probably the best out of those two decades.
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If you go with mainstream horror then yes. There was some good shit coming out but it was all foreign films. The 90's sucked but there were quite a few gems like DeadAlive AKA Brain Dead, Cemetery Man, and Audition to round out the decade.
 
BrunoMattei said:
If you go with mainstream horror then yes. There was some good shit coming out but it was all foreign films. The 90's sucked but there were quite a few gems like DeadAlive AKA Brain Dead, Cemetery Man, and Audition to round out the decade.
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I always forget Dead Alive but then again that movie is like a comedy. I feel you on foreign. Someone mentioned Tokyo Gore Police a few pages back and that movie was fucking excellent. Not just because a big titty goth girl sucked my dick in 2009 while watching it.
 
White Devil said:
Edit: Honorable mention for New Nightmare because fuck you that was an underrated movie.
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New Nightmare is a deeply flawed experience. There's things that are great about it but I didn't like how it tried to re-write the rules of how Freddy gets you but at the same time it kept to the rules. It would have been more interesting had it been shown that Freddy or whatever this "evil" is can get you even when you're awake. Or if it was at all explained. Or why Freddy looks different here. Or why killing him in the dream world means a god damn. Or, how it makes no sense that he would target Heather/Nancy because her character was killed off in part 3. Or, well it just keeps going.

Big question: is this Freddy that's killing actors in the real world or is this some other entity utilizing his visage and everything? If it's Freddy then why are the rules wishy washy and why does he look different? If it's an entity then why is it playing by Freddy's rules? It's one of those movies where if you think about it especially in relation to the rest of the movies it doesn't make much sense. I think it was designed for people who never watched any of the sequels. Also, I think it bombed because of the title. If New Nightmare was called "A New Nightmare on Elm Street" it would have done better. Because normies didn't know who Wes Craven was especially in 94.
 
TV's Adam West said:
You know, I loved Terrifier. James A Janice from the kill count repeatedly said its mediocre and mean spirited, but I was bored after work one day, and it's definitely a movie that sticks with you. The scene of Art dancing around with the Scalped body parts is honestly so good I don't know if I should laugh or be terrified.
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I think that was James political views speaking. But most of the time he's ok when he's not shilling a movie for political reasons.
 
Internet War Criminal said:
I have to say, fuck that guy:



Nigga, there's two movies named Dashcam that were released in 2021. I was all psyched to watch some horror shlock, I kept expecting for shit to happen and go crazy when it never did, was confused why you thought the main character was so unlikeable, and then the movie just fucking ended.

Turns out I watched the shitty found footage thriller about a cop coverup of a shooting, and not the actual movie you were talking about, which I have queued up for tomorrow.

Give at least a one sentence rundown of the plot in the future, pal.

edit: and as far as the other dashcam movie goes, probably 6/10, with the potential of being an 8/10 if they had revealed a bit more information than they did. It's just not horror, but rather a found footage thriller that happens on halloween. which is super confusing.
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You have my sympathy. That happened to me with a movie called "The Toll" or "Toll" I forget which. I think that was the name. I don't quite remember. Instead of a cozy horror movie I got stuck with some boring ass English movie.
 
BrunoMattei said:
October is going to be a great month for horror: you have the Hellraiser reboot (let's hope it doesn't suck), Terrifier 2, new season of Chucky and Halloween Ends (which at the least will have some good kills and hopefully be a so bad it's good woke experience).
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I notice you manage to dredge up a few kind words about CY Hellraiser and Halloween "Ends" (🌈) but still decline to comment about the Evil Dead thing
 
I watched the first two V/H/S films

The first one was decent, like there was some stuff better than others. Like I enjoyed the Halloween party and glitch one more than the others which were either decent or forgettable.

The second one was definitely an improvement since each of the segments had something good. The Cult one honestly is my favorite and I would've definitely enjoyed it if it were it's own movie since it had the best setup. The Alien one is definitely the weakest one since the teens are really fucking annoying and I feel it relies on more of the shock of "Oh no the dog will die" to compensate.
 
I recently saw The Return of the Living Dead and while it seems to not be as serious as Romero's Dead series, it works. Even with this tone, having the zombies be practically indestructible, be smart enough to set traps, and they can run, which predates both Zack Snyder's Dawn remake and 28 Days Later (if you call them zombies), gives the whole film a sense of dread. And having it all culminate to how it ends was just icing on the cake.
 
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BrunoMattei said:
New Nightmare is a deeply flawed experience. There's things that are great about it but I didn't like how it tried to re-write the rules of how Freddy gets you but at the same time it kept to the rules. It would have been more interesting had it been shown that Freddy or whatever this "evil" is can get you even when you're awake. Or if it was at all explained. Or why Freddy looks different here. Or why killing him in the dream world means a god damn. Or, how it makes no sense that he would target Heather/Nancy because her character was killed off in part 3. Or, well it just keeps going.

Big question: is this Freddy that's killing actors in the real world or is this some other entity utilizing his visage and everything? If it's Freddy then why are the rules wishy washy and why does he look different? If it's an entity then why is it playing by Freddy's rules? It's one of those movies where if you think about it especially in relation to the rest of the movies it doesn't make much sense. I think it was designed for people who never watched any of the sequels. Also, I think it bombed because of the title. If New Nightmare was called "A New Nightmare on Elm Street" it would have done better. Because normies didn't know who Wes Craven was especially in 94.
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Could I sperg for another moment?


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I really believe New Nightmare is a victim of bad marketing. There's the title but there's also the trailers. I never saw a single trailer except for this one solitary TV spot that I linked. I had no idea it was an Elm Street movie and I was a super fan. I loved these fucking movies and had no clue. You might say "Bruno, you plebian! Clearly the trailer shows Freddy! He say's 'miss me' it's obious!" You're seeing that clip in context. Imagine not knowing anything about the movie, not knowing who Wes Craven is and you see the "Miss me?" Clip. It's Freddy but with different makeup, you can't really see the sweater, you can't see the glove and there's no hat.

They used the worst possible clip to show off that this was a Freddy movie. Had I known this was a Freddy movie I would have demanded my parents take me to see it ala Bart and Lisa saying "Can we have a pool, dad?"


And I wasn't a brat but in this case I would have demanded to see it in the theater and probably would have enjoyed it at least on that first watch. And I didn't see this poster either.

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This is a good poster and clearly shows that it has Freddy. I don't think I saw that poster. That poster was used for the tape and when I saw the tape I immediately rented it. I think this is the theatrical poster that I saw:

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The fuck is this? You couldn't show the claw?
 
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TV's Adam West said:
I watched Spiral from the book of saw. I could leave it at that, but fuck.

A few things bothered me, a lot.
There's a line in this movie" John Kramer never targeted cops. " what the fuck were 2 3 and 4 then?
I was excited to see Samuel L Jackson in it, and you know what? He has 10 minutes of fucking screen time.
All the traps sucked. "Rip your fingers off or get electrocuted. Rip your tongue off or get hit by a train. "
The best trap was literally the equivalent of an alcoholic father. It's beer bottles being chucked at a high velocity.
The ending was actually just fucking boring.
so Chris Rock is given a chance to save his father, Samuel Jackson. It's false. Not true. No matter what this trap kills, Chris Rock screams and the killer leaves.
Also how many times are we gonna reboot but not really reboot this franchise?
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Late reply but "Sprial from the book of saw" feels less like a reboot and more of a side story, I feel they will be making more "Book of Saw" standalone anthology movies assuming saw X is successful
also yeah fuck that ending
like i get that the traps were rigged in this one, cementing this guy further into being a retarded copycat but this is the ONE trap that should have been unrigged thematically/spoiler]
 
@BrunoMattei I had forgotten all about our mini New Nightmare sperg because of the downtime/work/blah blah life in general.

I agree with most of your points but honestly I felt that New Nightmare was actually the scariest one since NOES II. Sure, part of the plot didn't make complete sense, the franchise was in a sort of decline since the horror boom of the 80s and the 90s had a whole new culture which demanded new kind of horror / slasher. I'm going more off feeling here. Freddy felt threatening, he felt menacing, he felt fucking scary. Legitimately the last time he felt like that was in II before they turned him into a complete caricature and comedic relief. It's why I like The Evil Dead over Evil Dead II : Dead By Dawn. The sequel is a fucking comedy movie. As for the marketing? New Nightmare came out in 1994. I was seven years old, I barely paid attention to the marketing because who the fuck markets slasher movies to a child? My sister took me to see it with her and her boyfriend, like they usually did with big releases coming out. Fuck, I saw Terminator 2 with my dad in theaters. I barely remember it in the theater but I know I saw it.

All that aside, is New Nightmare a perfect movie? God no. It's not even a good movie by standards, but I enjoyed it, and others in this thread have enjoyed worse.
 
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White Devil said:
@BrunoMattei I had forgotten all about our mini New Nightmare sperg because of the downtime/work/blah blah life in general.

I agree with most of your points but honestly I felt that New Nightmare was actually the scariest one since NOES II. Sure, part of the plot didn't make complete sense, the franchise was in a sort of decline since the horror boom of the 80s and the 90s had a whole new culture which demanded new kind of horror / slasher. I'm going more off feeling here. Freddy felt threatening, he felt menacing, he felt fucking scary. Legitimately the last time he felt like that was in II before they turned him into a complete caricature and comedic relief. It's why I like The Evil Dead over Evil Dead II : Dead By Dawn. The sequel is a fucking comedy movie. As for the marketing? New Nightmare came out in 1994. I was seven years old, I barely paid attention to the marketing because who the fuck markets slasher movies to a child? My sister took me to see it with her and her boyfriend, like they usually did with big releases coming out. Fuck, I saw Terminator 2 with my dad in theaters. I barely remember it in the theater but I know I saw it.

All that aside, is New Nightmare a perfect movie? God no. It's not even a good movie by standards, but I enjoyed it, and others in this thread have enjoyed worse.
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I wouldn't say it's the worst in the series. Not by a long shot. Was a new direction needed? Hell yeah. But you have to respect the cannon and changes have to make some kind of sense. Shit, I have a New Nightmare Freddy toy on my shelf so there's definitely aspects of it that have held up.
 
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Kevin Smith wants to make Tusk 2, a follow up to his second worst movie only beat by Yoga Hosers which was already a follow up.
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It's not like he's got anything better to do. No one liked the new Jay and Silent Bob film (for good reason because it was dog shit) or anything else he's done for about a decade. Clerks 3 is getting a limited release at best and that looks equally bad.
 
BrunoMattei said:
It's not like he's got anything better to do. No one liked the new Jay and Silent Bob film (for good reason because it was dog shit) or anything else he's done for about a decade. Clerks 3 is getting a limited release at best and that looks equally bad.
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In all fairness he lost alot of the nerd crowd when he lied about his He-Man reboot.
 
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