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BrunoMattei said:
Is his shitty Twilight Zone better or worse than the shitty 2000's reboot of the show?
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It's pretty fucking shitty. The writers do nothing original and so called twists are easily guessed. The only one I enjoyed is the time loop one Try, Try and I unironically thought the guy should have won in the end. The point of Twilight Zone is not happy endings. It's thought provoking ones. Her going HAM on him at the end had no real lesson in the end. Wow. Break free of abusers. Blah blah blah. Ultimately it made the story and so called lesson pointless.

Topher Grace is really good in it and is the saving grace (ha) of that season. Everything else was just predictable schlock with no standouts.


So I finally watched Midsomer and visually I liked it a lot, the brutal norse Paganism does it for me and the acting was good but...so much of it felt telegraphed. Wow a really high cliff and rocks underneath. Wonder what is gonna happen! A man with a hammer? I wonder if that'll come up. Oh my! A bear I wonder if that'll come back... I guess that's the issue when you watch so much horror. Nothing surprises you any more.

If we're going to allegory horror then I guess the story makes sense but if we're going on the surface than Dani is horrible and she murdered her boyfriend for a shitty reason. And while all these essayists on YT are like 'it's a metaphor for overcoming a bad toxic relationship and freeing herself from grief' Okay...I guess. But nobody could come up with a compelling reason why the boyfriend is the only one in the wrong. He just is cuz man bad?

I don't know. I must be getting old. I still love classic horror but some of the newer stuff seems a little try hard shock and handwaving dumb shit with 'it's a metaphor!' And 'psychological' without really doing either very well honestly.
 
BrunoMattei said:
Same thing happened with Texas Chainsaw 3D knocking The Hobbit out of the top spot.
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Or like how The Devil Inside took over the fourth Mission Impossible movie as the number one movie of the weekend. Granted, it fell badly on its second weekend due to a shitty CinemaScore rating, which explains audiences reacting towards the embarrassing copout ending.

Anyway, I'm not surprised that a lot of mediocre to bad horror movies still manage to top number one, even after the pandemic.
 
BrunoMattei said:
Has anyone dared to see Nope?

The only thing positive I can say, the silver lining, is that it amuses me that it dethroned the new Thor from #1 at the box office. That's about it. Same thing happened with Texas Chainsaw 3D knocking The Hobbit out of the top spot.

Even though it made 44 million so far it somehow cost 68 million to make. I think a lot of that went into marketing because I remember seeing the fucking trailer in front of every single fucking movie when I went to the theater this year.
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I saw it over the weekend; The main female character is tolerable at best and Keith David is annoyingly underused but the premise is pretty new and not too tropey. It seems to be more of a "fuck you" to Hollywood for the mistreatment of animal actors than any specific social commentary.
 
TVBForever said:
Or like how The Devil Inside took over the fourth Mission Impossible movie as the number one movie of the weekend. Granted, it fell badly on its second weekend due to a shitty CinemaScore rating, which explains audiences reacting towards the embarrassing copout ending.

Anyway, I'm not surprised that a lot of mediocre to bad horror movies still manage to top number one, even after the pandemic.
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It's the power of marketing.
 
NOT a Loaded Gun said:
Whoah, lemme stop you right there. Topher Grace is a terrible actor that must have some serious dirt on high level producers to keep getting roles. There isn't any other explanation I can think of, how he still has a career. Box Office Poison, my dude.
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He's a fine actor. I think you're just butt-hurt over his casting as Venom. Which I get because he was definitely miscast there.
 
BrunoMattei said:
He's a fine actor.
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I've never heard that combination of words put together to describe the guy. Just sayin.

BrunoMattei said:
I think you're just butt-hurt over his casting as Venom.
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Never saw it. I can only stomach a modest amount of capeshit. His casting may have contributed to me not seeing it, but that was long ago I don't remember.
 
I'm really starting to hate A24 and apparently Ti West too, apparently. X was shit, Mia Goth can't act, they did not in any way need an origin story and if anything, it makes it even worse retroactively. He even fucking described it as a murderous Mary Poppins.
 
BrunoMattei said:
It's the power of marketing.
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A lot of modern horror movies (just like reboots, parodies, capeshit or animated kids movies) use their gimmicky marketing tactics just to trick audiences to see the movie. It's the same exact sing and dance number every single time. Monty Python elaborated this at best:
 
Product Placement said:
didn't he try and get his name removed from that?
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Lion's Gate wasn't happy with the final cut and the studio did some reshoots, re-edited the film and Ti didn't want his name on it and wanted to be credited as Alan Smithee. All I remember about that film is that it has a lot of gross-out gags, it has shitty animated segments that are used for filler and the fat kid in the movie was the lead singer in the hardcore/punk/noise band Total Abuse.
 
F_Break said:
There's already a fuck ton of leaked spoilers from test screenings and the trailer and synopsis line up with them. They also just finished some reshoots probably based on feedback from the test screenings.
Laurie is living with her granddaughter and working on her memoir. Her granddaughter is dating a guy with a fucked up history that is kind of an outcast. The big twist is that the boyfriend is a legit fucking psycho that becomes a Michael Myers copycat killer. A majority of the kills in the movie are done by the imposter Myers. The real Michael Myers is being held in the sewers by a crazy homeless guy and finally emerges towards the end of the film for the big confrontation. The imposter Michael is in the trailer (he's not missing fingers like the real one) as well as a scene where the boyfriend/imposter is accosted in the sewers. Jamie Lee Curtis's comments that the film will probably piss a lot of fans off seems like an understatement. If any of this sounds too outlandish to be real, let me remind you that in the 2018 reboot the bus accident that freed Michael was originally going to be caused by Laurie until John Carpenter talked some sense into the filmmakers. Of all of the plot elements these people could choose to borrow, they go straight for the polarizing imposter angle from F13 part V and the crazy hobo caretaker from Halloween 5. I don't see how any amount of reshoots could fix this clusterfuck.
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If audiences in 1983 were pissed Michael Myers didn't appear Halloween 3, they will definitely be pissed if Michael only shows up in the final act. Why is the hell Laurie writing a memoir? She's not a renowned psychiatrist like the Rob Zombie version of Dr. Loomis. She survived Michael's murder spree in 1978 and failed to kill him in 2018 because despite living outside the town boundaries of Haddonfield, plot convenience resulted in the fire department going to her property. Even if the boyfriend is not the same height and build as Michael, people will think it's the real Michael since this is the same continuity where people thought a Danny Devito-looking guy but slightly taller was Michael.
The Blumhouse Halloween trilogy seems to be going the way of the Disney Wars trilogy and the Jurassic World trilogy: starts off with a bang, then a disappointment, and ends with a whimper.
 
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The Nothingness said:
If audiences in 1983 were pissed Michael Myers didn't appear Halloween 3, they will definitely be pissed if Michael only shows up in the final act. Why is the hell Laurie writing a memoir? She's not a renowned psychiatrist like the Rob Zombie version of Dr. Loomis. She survived Michael's murder spree in 1978 and failed to kill him in 2018 because despite living outside the town boundaries of Haddonfield, plot convenience resulted in the fire department going to her property. Even if the boyfriend is not the same height and build as Michael, people will think it's the real Michael since this is the same continuity where people thought a slightly tall, Danny Devito-looking guy was Michael
The Blumhouse Halloween trilogy seems to be going the way of the Disney Wars trilogy and the Jurassic World trilogy: starting off with a bang, then a disappointment, and ends with a whimper.
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Well at least I'll say this, I'm at least sighing with relief that Spiral was a breath of fresh air and that Lionsgate nor Twisted didn't shit all over the Saw franchise with that nor, at the time of this post, its upcoming X, and not make it an absolute pandering piece of bullshit like what Paramount did with Scream or what Universal is doing with Jurassic World and Halloween (the latter alongside with Blumhouse).
 
TVBForever said:
Well at least I'll say this, I'm at least sighing with relief that Spiral was a breath of fresh air and that Lionsgate nor Twisted didn't shit all over the Saw franchise with that nor, at the time of this post, its upcoming X, and not make it an absolute pandering piece of bullshit like what Paramount did with Scream or what Universal is doing with Jurassic World and Halloween (the latter alongside with Blumhouse).
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I'm sorry but Spiral was a fucking retarded film and the behind the scenes of it showed how much the creative team shat on the Saw franchise. They decided to make this non-horror film instead of something with Tobin Bell all because Chris Rock wanted to make a Saw movie since he happened to meet the producers at a party. The film itself was some lazy ass attempt at an anti-police film and felt like a boring crime thriller than a SAW movie, especially with the director trying to act like this is the most mature Saw movie. All the traps and stuff lack any imagination whatsoever while the film revels in how pretentious it is.
 
F_Break said:
There's already a fuck ton of leaked spoilers from test screenings and the trailer and synopsis line up with them. They also just finished some reshoots probably based on feedback from the test screenings.
Laurie is living with her granddaughter and working on her memoir. Her granddaughter is dating a guy with a fucked up history that is kind of an outcast. The big twist is that the boyfriend is a legit fucking psycho that becomes a Michael Myers copycat killer. A majority of the kills in the movie are done by the imposter Myers. The real Michael Myers is being held in the sewers by a crazy homeless guy and finally emerges towards the end of the film for the big confrontation. The imposter Michael is in the trailer (he's not missing fingers like the real one) as well as a scene where the boyfriend/imposter is accosted in the sewers. Jamie Lee Curtis's comments that the film will probably piss a lot of fans off seems like an understatement. If any of this sounds too outlandish to be real, let me remind you that in the 2018 reboot the bus accident that freed Michael was originally going to be caused by Laurie until John Carpenter talked some sense into the filmmakers. Of all of the plot elements these people could choose to borrow, they go straight for the polarizing imposter angle from F13 part V and the crazy hobo caretaker from Halloween 5. I don't see how any amount of reshoots could fix this clusterfuck.
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Feels good to be right.
 
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