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JohnDoe said:
It pandered hard to the Girl Power™️ and Me Too™️ delusions in spades is why, complete with the 'UwU I'm so sexy that hot billionaires will do anything to be with me' female power fantasy, combined with the 'girls are smarter and stronger than men!' delusion. Its way too focused on the central theme of female narcissism to the point that the guy in the title, the Invisible Man, is practically an afterthought. He's not a character, he's just a plot device and it was a hamfisted attempt to slam the square peg of 'modern Ring of Gyges with science' into the round hole of 'domestic abuse is bad'. These two themes cannot co-exist.
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That is the biggest piece of fantasy for me in that movie. I could truck with a magic suit of invisibility but hot as fuck Oliver Jackson Cohen settling and being obsessed with dumpy Elizabeth Moss? Okay. I can only suspend disbelief that much honestly. The dude was a genius millionaire inventor and settled with a whiny uggo? C'mon now. Please.

And yeah. It's a shame they gave him nothing to do cuz he's a good actor who has played quite a few decent villains. No scenery to chew until the parking lot scene. But for the most part it was underdeveloped. If they're going with the sleeping with the enemy angle you have to establish the relationship. Her sneaking off into the middle of the night as the start does not add any context. Sure, he looked a bit psycho trying to break the window but I still don't know their relationship even based on visual context clues. I can tell she planned to get away but not  why so the threat of him feels...milqutoast.
 
Commander X said:
I know there have been a lot of these terrible DTV movies that feature "Amityville" in the title that may or may not actually reference the Amityville house, like a movie about a zombie outbreak that happens to take place in the burg of Amityville but someone has got to be just having a larf with this one, surely. Someone's idea of a joke, right?

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Another Mark Polonia masterpiece it would seem. Obviously with Jeff Kirkendall as a cast member. Polonia singlehandedly keeps the Amityville and shark movies alive churning out bangers like Noah's Shark, Shark Encounters of the Third Kind, Amityville Exorcism, etc. Sometimes I wonder how this man keeps getting the funds to make them. I used to make time to watch that kind of garbage, but I just don't have the time to spend anymore so if I do manage to have a movie night, I'd rather take a gamble on anything but this bottom of the barrel junk.
 
I'm watching The Devils again.

Everytime I watch it (this is like my third or fourth time), I'm just at awe by how utterly fucked up it is, and the fact a mainstream studio like Warner Brothers put it out.
 
Power Glove said:
Another Mark Polonia masterpiece it would seem. Obviously with Jeff Kirkendall as a cast member. Polonia singlehandedly keeps the Amityville and shark movies alive churning out bangers like Noah's Shark, Shark Encounters of the Third Kind, Amityville Exorcism, etc. Sometimes I wonder how this man keeps getting the funds to make them. I used to make time to watch that kind of garbage, but I just don't have the time to spend anymore so if I do manage to have a movie night, I'd rather take a gamble on anything but this bottom of the barrel junk.
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Virus Shark is worth a watch. Got some good laughs out of that one.
 
Commander X said:
I know there have been a lot of these terrible DTV movies that feature "Amityville" in the title that may or may not actually reference the Amityville house, like a movie about a zombie outbreak that happens to take place in the burg of Amityville but someone has got to be just having a larf with this one, surely. Someone's idea of a joke, right?

https://youtube.com/watch?v=GhYIEISiEbo
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How many exactly are there now? 16?

Edit: so I looked up TV Tropes and apparently there's official sequels and unofficial sequels. Good God that amount of unofficial is truly insane.
 
Oats12345 said:
How many exactly are there now? 16?

Edit: so I looked up TV Tropes and apparently there's official sequels and unofficial sequels. Good God that amount of unofficial is truly insane.
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Yes, some are indeed somehow connected and follow each other. I think the last one I watched was Amityville in the Hood. Yes. They went full Leprechaun on them, and made a "In the Hood" version. Needless to say it was shockingly bad. What I'm always thinking about when watching these movies, some of the biggest names on the big screen have all had their start as minor roles in horror films, such as Johnny Depp, Jennifer Anniston, DiCaprio, Kevin Bacon, the list goes on. How many of the "actors" in these D-list movies will ever go and become actual sought after movie stars rather then circling between movies made by the same directors?
 
Commander X said:
I know there have been a lot of these terrible DTV movies that feature "Amityville" in the title that may or may not actually reference the Amityville house, like a movie about a zombie outbreak that happens to take place in the burg of Amityville but someone has got to be just having a larf with this one, surely. Someone's idea of a joke, right?

https://youtube.com/watch?v=GhYIEISiEbo
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I see your Amityville In Space and raise you this:


Internet War Criminal said:
It is a much better adaptation.

The problem is that it's a terrible movie/tv series that is almost all drama and no horror. It's literally a reverse of my earlier review, where it's definitely 9/10 in terms of being faithful to the book, but about a 4/10 in terms of quality. I mean it's by no means terrible, but it's 4h30 hours long. Holy shit that's way too much when you can't put up the level of quality Kubrick did.

Kubrick's version would have benefitted from an additional 20 minutes of extra characterization and amp up the horror in the beginning.

This one would have benefitted from cutting off an hour and a half, and amping the horror way up.

I will say this though: the roque mallet is superior to the axe. You can actually have him clubber the shit out of Wendy without killing her and raise up the stakes, unlike in Kubrick's version where she can't possibly be fighting against Jack so Kubrick just has her walking around seeing spoooooooky stuff because she has fuck all left to do.
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I'm wondering if you saw the Euro cut of Kubrick's The Shining that cuts out a good 10-15 minutes of footage? We get a lot of character development after Danny has a seizure after talking to Tony for the first time.
 
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Power Glove said:
Yes, some are indeed somehow connected and follow each other. I think the last one I watched was Amityville in the Hood. Yes. They went full Leprechaun on them, and made a "In the Hood" version. Needless to say it was shockingly bad. What I'm always thinking about when watching these movies, some of the biggest names on the big screen have all had their start as minor roles in horror films, such as Johnny Depp, Jennifer Anniston, DiCaprio, Kevin Bacon, the list goes on. How many of the "actors" in these D-list movies will ever go and become actual sought after movie stars rather then circling between movies made by the same directors?
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I hear yeah. You never know who will become a major A-lister.
 
Oats12345 said:
I hear yeah. You never know who will become a major A-lister.
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Or what names that used to be big or at least noteworthy pop up in those movies. Like when John Heard suddenly popped up in Sharknado. One would almost forget that Tara Reid used to be in movies like The Big Lebowski, American Pie, Cruel Intentions and Urban Legend. While some of those were already of debatable quality, it's hard to deny they were popular movies back in the days. Nowadays she has to get by with titles like Mummy Dearest and Ouija House (because there haven't been enough Ouija movies, right?)
 
Power Glove said:
Or what names that used to be big or at least noteworthy pop up in those movies. Like when John Heard suddenly popped up in Sharknado. One would almost forget that Tara Reid used to be in movies like The Big Lebowski, American Pie, Cruel Intentions and Urban Legend. While some of those were already of debatable quality, it's hard to deny they were popular movies back in the days. Nowadays she has to get by with titles like Mummy Dearest and Ouija House (because there haven't been enough Ouija movies, right?)
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Yeah I find John Heard being in Sharknado a downgrade especially when you watch some of his older movies. Others like Gary Busey being in a bunch b-list slack and than you remmber he use to play in movies with big names like Keanu reeves and Jodie Froster. I mean there's a ton of actors who i see in b-movies now and days who used to star in movies with Tom Hanks or Tom Cruise who now star with no name people.
 
I recently saw both 28 Days/Weeks Later and this may be an unpopular opinion but I think Weeks is not as good as Days. What I see as a big plot hole is how did the mother survive even though she was infected but asymptomatic. I'm not sure if it was established that those with the Rage Virus just go after those who are not infected (like how zombies always go after anything living), which could be anyone who doesn't look like them. If that is the case why was the mother spared if she doesn't look infected in appearance? It just seemed like a convenient writing for another outbreak. Also I felt Idris Elba was wasted in this film. Yes, this is before Luther and his other big roles but his character had limited screentime and was barely an antagonist (unlike Christopher Eccleston's character in Days).

And I felt the shaky cam work in Weeks was too much. While it adds to the disorientation of the infected attacks and was used in Days, it didn't come off as Michael Bay edit-levels of annoying.
 
I prefer Weeks over Days. I think the mother being asymptomatic and escaping makes sense. She hid somewhere or maybe the boy she tried to rescue acted as bait or a distraction? The shaky cam, what little that was used was fine. I'd rather have that then the shitty DV used to film Days.
 
Oats12345 said:
How many exactly are there now? 16?

Edit: so I looked up TV Tropes and apparently there's official sequels and unofficial sequels. Good God that amount of unofficial is truly insane.
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At this point, The Amityville Horror is poised to outdo Night of the Living Dead in terms of how many official and unofficial sequels and spin-offs it has.
 
So I watched Ratter (2015) a found footage movie that's about a girl who has her shit hacked by her psycho ex, it's short, doesn't overstay it's welcome, it's not exactly scary but has plenty of tension and the short runtime helps. Not fantastic, bug good enough 6.5/10.

Sightseers (2012) about a couple of retarded misfits who go on a honeymoon type trip around England and murder people and shit. Pretty nice and bizarre overall, 8/10

Psychotic (2016) is a shitty movie about the Buschwick Party Killer and kind of a whodunnit that follows a bunch of wannabe hipster cunts who cant act or play music but they try to do both for most of the movie. I lasted way longer than I thought watching that movie because the opening was actually really good, even if technically a rip-off of the Halloween opening. Opening was 9/10, rest of the movie is 1/10.

The Nothingness said:
I recently saw both 28 Days/Weeks Later and this may be an unpopular opinion but I think Weeks is not as good as Days. What I see as a big plot hole is how did the mother survive even though she was infected but asymptomatic. I'm not sure if it was established that those with the Rage Virus just go after those who are not infected (like how zombies always go after anything living), which could be anyone who doesn't look like them. If that is the case why was the mother spared if she doesn't look infected in appearance? It just seemed like a convenient writing for another outbreak. Also I felt Idris Elba was wasted in this film. Yes, this is before Luther and his other big roles but his character had limited screentime and was barely an antagonist (unlike Christopher Eccleston's character in Days).

And I felt the shaky cam work in Weeks was too much. While it adds to the disorientation of the infected attacks and was used in Days, it didn't come off as Michael Bay edit-levels of annoying.
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Days is a much better movie than Weeks... until we reach the manor. Then the movie goes off the fucking rails entirely. Weeks is better overall as a result, but cannot touch the highs of the first half/two-thirds of Days.
 
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Oats12345 said:
Yeah I find John Heard being in Sharknado a downgrade especially when you watch some of his older movies. Others like Gary Busey being in a bunch b-list slack and than you remmber he use to play in movies with big names like Keanu reeves and Jodie Froster. I mean there's a ton of actors who i see in b-movies now and days who used to star in movies with Tom Hanks or Tom Cruise who now star with no name people.
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To be fair to Busey, he had a horrific head injury in the 90s and I don't think Reeves was a big star yet by Point Break. He was known but he wasn't huge. I think PB was Buseys last movie before the motorcycle accident.
 
White Devil said:
To be fair to Busey, he had a horrific head injury in the 90s and I don't think Reeves was a big star yet by Point Break. He was known but he wasn't huge. I think PB was Buseys last movie before the motorcycle accident.
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Wash he in a Wesley snipes movie after point break through?
 
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