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BrunoMattei said:
Eli Roth. I liked Hostel 1 and 2. I'd have a beer with the guy and talk about Pieces and Cannibal Holocaust. But he is not a good director.
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He's not a good director but Hostel 1 & 2, Cabin Fever and even Green Inferno were definitely fun movies. I also liked his Death Wish remake, nothing to write home about but still enjoyable with a few beers and a few friends. Haven't seen Knock Knock yet, but heard good thing.

Definitely wouldn't classify a as a hack

BrunoMattei said:
James Wan. The first Saw is good especially considering the limitations he had to work with (shot in about 2 weeks with under a million dollars). Everything else he's done is shit and he's legitimately a hack (in the truest sense of the word) for doing Aquaman.
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Mostly agree, but.I also really liked Insidious 1/2 and liked Conjuring 1/2, but aside from that yeah I'd say that he's definitely a hack and malignant was fucking retarded bullshit. His mainstream bullshit is just that, mainstream bullshit.

BrunoMattei said:
Jordan Peele. One hit wonder. I liked Get Out but that's the only gimmick he can do "muh race relations" which is worse than Argento just making the same Giallo film over and over.
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His latest movie looks like shit. Probably the one with the least talent on that list.

BrunoMattei said:
Rob Zombie, largely because of Lords of Salem proving he can make a good film that's not the same shit over and over. His Halloween movies are enjoyable and for my money are better than the 2018 movie and Kills.
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The only ok movie he made was House of 1000 Corpses, then he made an absolute masterpiece with The Devil's Rejects and then everything else he made is absolute dogshit.

BrunoMattei said:
Fede Alvarez, I like the guy's enthusiasm and camera work but he's yet to make a film I genuinely liked.
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his Evil Dead remake was good enough

BrunoMattei said:
Alexandra Aja, aside from Haute Tension I've hated everything else he's done. At least he produced the Maniac remake.
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Fuck High Tension, he's absolute shit. I'd say he's worse than Peele if it wasn't for Crawl which was at least entertaining with some good/ingenious shots

BrunoMattei said:
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Did you scream like a little girl watching a boy band for the first time when you watched a Ti West movie? Jeeze.

Danzig>Ti West. Fite me I fucking mean it.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Uiwe1XZnnfM
Verotika is a more entertaining film than anything made by Ti West and Danzig's follow up Death Rider in the House of Vampires looks even more epic.
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I never watched Verotika because it looks like Danzig hired a couple of prostitutes for the weekend, couldn't get hard because of all the coke and whiskey, and decided to shoot a movie instead.
 
Early morning workout, just finished watching Studio 666 from the Foo Fighters and... it's pretty fucking awesome and extremely gory. Dick jokes, relies heavy on the comedy but still firmly horror, Dave Grohl is surprisingly not terrible, it's definitely something to watch if you were into shit like Tucker and Dale vs Evil (not as good but similar vibes)

A genuine 8.5/10 if not 9/10, it's been a while since I saw a horror movie that was that fun (and as gory by moments).

So much fucking better than what I expected, or X.
 
You know, if by "hack" we mean a director who only made a horror movie because it's the safest genre commercially, and basically just tried to make something that would perform well and get a lot of buzz while being cheap to make, and don't have any special love for the genre, and would jump ship and go make artsy dramas or mainstream family movies at the first opportunity... a lot of the really good ones are "hacks". Hacks have a better track record than horror fanboys, I think.
 
I came across an adaptation of Todd Browning's Freaks put out by Fantagraphics, written by Jim Woodring and illustrated by Francisco Solano Lopez. It provides a fascinating "what if" for the original proposed ending. It does however omit the scene showing Herculese is a castrato (having been castrated):

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I did some catching up on things it seems like I should have already seen and watched both versions of Little Shop of Horrors. You could say the 80s version fits into the same remake trend as The Fly, The Thing, and The Blob. Audrey II is so articulated it gives a kind of reverse uncanny valley effect and reminds me of CG. I enjoyed the racism: there is an inscrutable Chinese man, and Audrey II is both "black-coded" and "rapist-coded". If only the greedy Jewish shop owner were more stereotypical. I'm curious to watch the original director's cut, which is apparently quite different and pissed off test audiences.

The original version isn't overly excruciating for a 1960 horror comedy. Jack Nicholson is in it for maybe five minutes, which is enough to steal the movie.
 
Calandrino said:
I did some catching up on things it seems like I should have already seen and watched both versions of Little Shop of Horrors. You could say the 80s version fits into the same remake trend as The Fly, The Thing, and The Blob. Audrey II is so articulated it gives a kind of reverse uncanny valley effect and reminds me of CG. I enjoyed the racism: there is an inscrutable Chinese man, and Audrey II is both "black-coded" and "rapist-coded". If only the greedy Jewish shop owner were more stereotypical. I'm curious to watch the original director's cut, which is apparently quite different and pissed off test audiences.

The original version isn't overly excruciating for a 1960 horror comedy. Jack Nicholson is in it for maybe five minutes, which is enough to steal the movie.
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Don't get too excited to see the director's cut. It's 100% the same except for the ending, which isn't all that exciting or special, just audiences at the time preferred happy endings.
 
So I just finished Fallen (1998) and... holy shit what a fucking movie.

You got Denzel, Donald Sutherland, James Gandolfini, John Goodman in their 90s peak. I won't say much about the story except that Denzel is the lead detective who goes to witness the execution of a serial killer (played by Elias Koteas, his name won't ring a bell but you've seen him in a bunch of shit and he fucking steals his scenes) and after he dies, well, things start to go very wrong.

I don't know why people don't talk about this movie more, sure it's a bit more on the supernatural thriller than pure horror, but it's a fucking 10/10 must watch.
 
Internet War Criminal said:
So I just finished Fallen (1998) and... holy shit what a fucking movie.

You got Denzel, Donald Sutherland, James Gandolfini, John Goodman in their 90s peak. I won't say much about the story except that Denzel is the lead detective who goes to witness the execution of a serial killer (played by Elias Koteas, his name won't ring a bell but you've seen him in a bunch of shit and he fucking steals his scenes) and after he dies, well, things start to go very wrong.

I don't know why people don't talk about this movie more, sure it's a bit more on the supernatural thriller than pure horror, but it's a fucking 10/10 must watch.
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It's a personal favorite of mine. Absolute fucking best use of a Stones song that isn't Sympathy for the Devil. It's just a shame it bombed at the box office but that doesn't matter now. It's a far superior film to Wes Craven's Shocker which has a similar premise.

@AnOminous Get your ass in here, we're talking about Fallen.
 
BrunoMattei said:
It's a far superior film to Wes Craven's Shocker which has a similar premise.
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There had already been a few other Hollywood movies with that premise in the decade or so prior, none of them particularly great, which probably didn't do Fallen any favors. I haven't seen it but I'll assume they nailed it better than Jason Goes to Hell did.
 
Calandrino said:
There had already been a few other Hollywood movies with that premise in the decade or so prior, none of them particularly great, which probably didn't do Fallen any favors. I haven't seen it but I'll assume they nailed it better than Jason Goes to Hell did.
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I'm honestly struggling to think of other movies with the same premise. Jason Goes to Hell and The Hidden (shame on you for forgetting The Hidden) is more sci fi than supernatural but okay Mr. Calandrino, it's a close enough example of a thing technically possessing someone and making them kill. Golf clap for you, sir. Are we going to count Exorcist 3 as well?
 
BrunoMattei said:
Guess who illegally downloaded a German rip of The Sadness, baby bitches?

https://youtube.com/watch?v=VUR1DWh7eLs
(The copy I have has subs)

I have no idea why in the fuck the distributors/producers are dragging their feet getting this thing on the streaming services over here but oh well.

I liked this one. Takes a little while for it to kick off but the gore is great and the pace is frantic. I would say it's one of the best zombie movies in a long while. The plot is generic but the carnage is great and it goes to some places. I give The Sadness 9/11 out of 10.
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Update: this is coming to Shudder on May 12th.


I don't know if this version will be gorier than the German Blu that just came out but we'll be finding out soon.

Since it's on Shudder there's a decent chance that Joe Bob Briggs will host it on his show for a special. Since I think season 4 of Last Drive In has already been filmed. Not unless Shudder worked something out and got Joe Bob an advanced copy to write his schtick.
 
BrunoMattei said:
I'm honestly struggling to think of other movies with the same premise. Jason Goes to Hell and The Hidden (shame on you for forgetting The Hidden) is more sci fi than supernatural but okay Mr. Calandrino, it's a close enough example of a thing technically possessing someone and making them kill. Golf clap for you, sir. Are we going to count Exorcist 3 as well?
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I had thought The First Power was pretty much 1:1 exactly the same concept as Shocker but I don't remember it very well.
 
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