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If you want a really unsettling found footage movie, check out The Poughkeepsie Tapes. It's obviously fiction but parts of it look like it comes from a snuff film. That being said, there are other parts that are a little ridiculous for a movie that looks to be taking itself seriously.

Trollhunter is another great found footage movie that knows its subject material and does not shy away from being over-the-top. I'm so glad the US remake never came into fruition.
 
While it is nice to see a good reason for watching a FF flick and why the person kept filming, if the film is literally about an intergalactic space alien attacking people, are you really that worried about realism? That being said I tend to like the mockumentary style ones the best.

If you want a really unsettling found footage movie, check out The Poughkeepsie Tapes. It's obviously fiction but parts of it look like it comes from a snuff film. That being said, there are other parts that are a little ridiculous for a movie that looks to be taking itself seriously.

Trollhunter is another great found footage movie that knows its subject material and does not shy away from being over-the-top. I'm so glad the US remake never came into fruition.
Trollhunter is probably my favorite.
 
It's even more questionable when it happens in print, the number of supposed journals of narrators in horror stories that ends with them putting down words even as their doom is upon them - I recall a story in some vintage 60s paperback anthology from the UK that has the narrator still writing down in his journal as he continues to cut off and feed pieces of himself to the local seagulls on a deserted island.

Back in the day in the fanzine Crypt of Cthulhu (later reprinted in Twilight Zone Magazine) writer Robert M. Price commented on this sort of end cropping up in Mythos related stories.

As fans of horror- fantasy fiction, all of us are called on from time to time to swallow greater or lesser implausibilities. After all, why quibble if Wilmarth can quote verbatim entire letters from memory in "The Whisperer in Darkness"? Even gross physiological impossibilities such as the "change' undergone by the Innsmouth folk from mammals to amphibians can be swept under the rug with only a wink, and the chances of Wilbur Whateley's ever finding clothes that fit? What the heck! But at some point we really have to draw the line. And what more needful place than at a particular device for ending stories? We refer, of course, to those which break off in midscream with the narrator's grisly doom. There is nothing untoward about such a device per se, but these narrators seem to be as addicted to writing as we are to reading. They perish pen in hand, their death rattle committed to paper. A few examples will demonstrate how horror shades unwittingly into humor:

"The end is near. I near a poise at the door, as of some immense slippery body lumbering against it. It shall not find me. God, that hand! The window! The window! " — H. P. Lovecraft, "Dagon."

"Not long to go now; even the stone walls shudder to the monstrous weight pressing upon them — The window!— Merciful God, that FACE! Can anything that lives be so huge — " —Lin Carter, "The Dreams in the House of Weir."

"But now — something — Great God! Wings! What beings at the window! la! la! Hastur fhtagn . . . !" —August Derleth, "The ' House on Curwen Street."

"It is as if the walls of the house fell away, as If the street too, were gone, and for a fog— something in that watery fog, like a giant frog with tentacles — like a — Great God! What horror! !a! !a! Hastur! " —August Derleth, "The Watcher from the Sky."

"How hard it is for me to fight, while all the while it' is commanding me to put down my pen and tear this up! But I will fight — I must, until I can tell you what the creature told me— what it plans to let loose on the world when it has me utterly enslaved. ... I will tell. , , . I can't think. . . . will write it. . . . damn you! stop. ... No! Don't do that! Get your hands—" —Robert Bloch, "The Mannikin."

"Black marks two feet wide, but they aren't just marks. What they really are is fingerprints! The door is busting o — " —Robert Bloch, "Notebook Found in a Deserted House,"

"... too late — cannot help self — black paws materialize — am dragged away toward the cellar. — H.P. Lovecraft, "The Diary of Alonzo Typer."

Are we supposed to imagine poor Typer writing this onto the floorboards he is being dragged across? No, because according to the story's "frame," the narrative is all contained in his diary. And this is the problem with all these story endings. They are part of written documents. And even if someone were writing when some horror came upon him, he would drop quill or Bic long before these narrators do. The silliest of the bunch, and therefore the best example, is the ending of Frank Belknap Long's "The Hounds of Tindalos":

"God, they are breaking through! They are breaking through! Smoke is pouring from the corners df the wall. Their tongues — ahhh — ."

Ahhh indeed.
 
There are some fantastic found footage movie, it's a format like everything else and to say they all suck is as dumb as saying that 'all country/rap is bad'. That usually comes from people who couldn't name more than 3-5 movies they've seen like that.
3-5 times bitten, 6-10 times shy.

"God, they are breaking through! They are breaking through! Smoke is pouring from the corners df the wall. Their tongues — ahhh — ."
Perhaps he was dictating.
 
It's even more questionable when it happens in print, the number of supposed journals of narrators in horror stories that ends with them putting down words even as their doom is upon them - I recall a story in some vintage 60s paperback anthology from the UK that has the narrator still writing down in his journal as he continues to cut off and feed pieces of himself to the local seagulls on a deserted island.

Back in the day in the fanzine Crypt of Cthulhu (later reprinted in Twilight Zone Magazine) writer Robert M. Price commented on this sort of end cropping up in Mythos related stories.
People don't write out the "AAAAGH" if they die while writing?
This is hilarious.
 
I'm thinking of watching any of the VHS movies, which of them are good and what to avoid?
Here, I'll list what I can since I've seen all of them

In general

First: fine
Second: Better
Third: All but one were horrible
94: Better than the third but not as good as segments from the first two
VHS 1:
  • Tape 56: Wrap Around - very obnoxious
  • Amateur Night - Enjoyed.
  • Second Honeymoon - incredibly anticlimactic and boring (done by the guy who just released X)
  • Tuesday the 17th - fun, interesting use of the VHS gimmick
  • That Sick Thing that Happened to Emily When She was Younger - kinda boring, more like a mundane drama with some sci-fi-ish elements and dramatic elements
  • 10/31/98 - starts off annoying but I ended up having fun with this.
  • Siren (not a segment for the film but a spin off feature film of the Amateur Night Segment - not a bad way to waste an hour and a half

VHS 2:
  • Tape 49: Wraparound - surprisingly not annoying, indifferent towards it though
  • Phase 1 Clinical Trials - Fun
  • A Ride in the Park - interesting take on the zombie genre, where everything is filmed from the zombies GoPro camera. Other than that you can probably skip it.
  • Safe Haven - Longest Segment of the film, and maybe the entire series (I haven't double checked), I had a ton of fun with it
  • Slumber Party Alien Abduction - alright but ends very abruptly
VHS Viral:

  • Vicious Circles: Wraparound - started off kinda okay but ended up being completely fucking ridiculous
  • Dante the Great - stupid, its formated as a documentary
  • Parallel Monsters - the only segment here that's as good as the stuff from the previous films. Actually uses the VHS format in its story
  • Bonestorm - fucking stupid,
  • Gorgeous Vortex (DVD only segment) - I actually enjoyed this one but it had fuck all to do with the series proper and should have been a stand alone short film.

VHS94:

  • Holly Hell: Wraparound - goddamn this makes me want to replay SWAT 4
  • Storm Drain - Unremarkable but the ending effects where the woman pukes black acid on the news reporter was cool
  • The Empty Wake - forgettable
  • The Subject - too long but I still enjoyed it
  • Terror - the only segment in the entire series where I seriously considered skipping it. Personally this and Bonestorm are the worst in the series. If you couldn't stand Trump Derangement Syndrome

And then: "Why the fuck are you still filming this?" That's a really important one. It's a massive fucking monster pulling the city apart, you got your shot, now fucking run. Or... four of our mates are dead, can you stop fucking about with your phone and pay attention? Films like Rec try to sidestep the issue by having the camera crew be documentarians or news people, and I guess it almost works. Even then, though, why are you filming the non-newsworthy parts where the people bicker etc?
In REC there's also the excuse that the Camera is the only thing they have that can work as a light during the final scene.
 
- I recall a story in some vintage 60s paperback anthology from the UK that has the narrator still writing down in his journal as he continues to cut off and feed pieces of himself to the local seagulls on a deserted island.
That was "Survivor Type," from Stephen King's short story collection Skeleton Crew. He was eating himself to stay alive, not feeding the birds. Pretty good story story, despite the issue you mentioned.
 
That was "Survivor Type," from Stephen King's short story collection Skeleton Crew. He was eating himself to stay alive, not feeding the birds. Pretty good story story, despite the issue you mentioned.
No, this wasn't King's story, this was published well before that story by some author I can't remember, in some British paperback horror anthology I can't remember the title of and that I lost - all I can be sure of is that it wasn't an entry in the Fontana Book of Great Horror Stories series or the Pan Book of Horror series. From my vague memories of this story, the journaler was falling apart after some supernatural shenanigans on some abandoned island and was chronicling it up to the grim end, while feeding pieces of himself to the local seagulls.
 
Guess who illegally downloaded a German rip of The Sadness, baby bitches?


(The copy I have has subs)

I have no idea why in the fuck the distributors/producers are dragging their feet getting this thing on the streaming services over here but oh well.

I liked this one. Takes a little while for it to kick off but the gore is great and the pace is frantic. I would say it's one of the best zombie movies in a long while. The plot is generic but the carnage is great and it goes to some places. I give The Sadness 9/11 out of 10.
 
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So 1/6 out of 10 then
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I've been on the look out for two more foreign horrors that are coming out soon on Blu but still aren't available digitally. There's Maniac Driver:


A Japanese homage to the Giallo.

And another homage to the Giallo with Nightmare Symphony:


This one is more authentic to the 70's/80's era of Eyetalian horror even the dubbing has that cadance where it's just off. The director even hired a guy who worked on some of the movies back in the day:

From Fulci’s screenwriter Antonio Tentori, and goremaster Domiziano Cristopharo NIGHTMARE SYMPHONY is a reboot of the in-famous “Nightmare Concert” starring Fulci itself. Here we will se an horror director on his sunset boulevar, facing the worst nightmares and paranoia: to melt the line between fiction and reality!

It's weird how he points out Tentori as "Fulci's screenwriter." Was Dardano Sachetti busy doing nothing? Did he want too much money? So you look up Tentori and... https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0855193/

This is the guy who co-wrote Cat in the Brain and Demonia... Two lower tier Fulci films although Cat in the Brain can be fun when approached in a certain way. This guy also wrote a good chunk of Bruno Mattei's final string of films shot in the Philippines AND the biggest shit bomb of Dario Argento's career Dracula 3D.


Dracula 3D...

So, I don't expect anything good from Nightmare Symphony but hopefully it'll be a fun schlockfest.
 
So X wasn't... bad. Wasn't great either. I'll give it this, some moments were highly predictable, but the movie went in different ways I didn't expect quite a few times.

The most retarded, groan inducing, absolute 'Oh fuck off movie' moment came right before the ending when white trash mia goth crawls from under the bed while the two old people are fucking, gets to the van, picks up a gun... and then decides to go into their house to try and see if she can save church mouse instead of just running back to the old house over there, and shooting them both in the face. They were still in the middle of fucking and had no idea she was even gone, and we know that it's not more than a 30 second run to the van, and another 30 seconds to run back to the house over there. And then when she could kill both of them, but doesn't immediately shoot. Like, what the fuck. That's not the kind of shitty writing that I'd expect from Ti West, at least I'd expect him to give her a plausible reason why she'd do that.

other observations:

- lmao b l a c k e d porno in the 70s in texas? please.
- mia goth is so fucking white trash you can smell the sweat and appalachia through the screen
- cinematography feels paint by the number, exactly what you'd expect from a Texas Chainsaw Massacre aesthetics filmed current year
- I think he put more effort in grossing out shots than he did on gore (full on dicks, brittany snow wiping cum off her back, elderly nudity and fucking, etc...)

I'd say it's a 5/10
 
So X wasn't... bad. Wasn't great either. I'll give it this, some moments were highly predictable, but the movie went in different ways I didn't expect quite a few times.

The most retarded, groan inducing, absolute 'Oh fuck off movie' moment came right before the ending when white trash mia goth crawls from under the bed while the two old people are fucking, gets to the van, picks up a gun... and then decides to go into their house to try and see if she can save church mouse instead of just running back to the old house over there, and shooting them both in the face. They were still in the middle of fucking and had no idea she was even gone, and we know that it's not more than a 30 second run to the van, and another 30 seconds to run back to the house over there. And then when she could kill both of them, but doesn't immediately shoot. Like, what the fuck. That's not the kind of shitty writing that I'd expect from Ti West, at least I'd expect him to give her a plausible reason why she'd do that.

other observations:

- lmao b l a c k e d porno in the 70s in texas? please.
- mia goth is so fucking white trash you can smell the sweat and appalachia through the screen
- cinematography feels paint by the number, exactly what you'd expect from a Texas Chainsaw Massacre aesthetics filmed current year
- I think he put more effort in grossing out shots than he did on gore (full on dicks, brittany snow wiping cum off her back, elderly nudity and fucking, etc...)

I'd say it's a 5/10
That's disappointing but kinda what I was expecting from the trailer. It sounds like an alright movie to have on in the background.
 
I'm curious Bruno, who else do you think are hacks in the horror genre?

I legitimately want to know


Edit: actually i want answers from everyone, who do you think are complete hacks?


Also holy shit this got undeleted thanks
 
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I'm curious Bruno, who else do you think are hacks in the horror genre?

I legitimately want to kno


Edit: actually i want answers from everyone, who do you think are complete hacks?
Eli Roth. I liked Hostel 1 and 2. I'd have a beer with the guy and talk about Pieces and Cannibal Holocaust. But he is not a good director.

Ti West. X and that Jim Jones movie (it's about Jim Jones but it's not called Jim Jones: the Movie or something, but it's the same exact story with no twists) were bad.

Soska Sisters blew everyone to get where they are and now they're doing some comic book bullshit and are on Cameo for thirsty fuccboi faggots to give $100 to tell them they're the bestest feminist horror directors.

James Wan. The first Saw is good especially considering the limitations he had to work with (shot in about 2 weeks with under a million dollars). Everything else he's done is shit and he's legitimately a hack (in the truest sense of the word) for doing Aquaman.

Jordan Peele. One hit wonder. I liked Get Out but that's the only gimmick he can do "muh race relations" which is worse than Argento just making the same Giallo film over and over.

Directors I am neutral towards:

Rob Zombie, largely because of Lords of Salem proving he can make a good film that's not the same shit over and over. His Halloween movies are enjoyable and for my money are better than the 2018 movie and Kills.

Fede Alvarez, I like the guy's enthusiasm and camera work but he's yet to make a film I genuinely liked. At best I'm like "Yeah, that was okay." Regarding Don't Breathe and his Evil Dead remake.

Alexandra Aja, aside from Haute Tension I've hated everything else he's done. At least he produced the Maniac remake.

David F. Sandberg. I love his tutorial videos but haven't liked a single film he's made.

GOOD current year horror directors:

Arri Aster, Brandon Cronenberg, Robert Eggars, Scott Derrickson, Nicolas Windin Refn (even if he's massively pretentious), and there's others but they've mostly just made one movie that I liked.
 
Eli Roth. I liked Hostel 1 and 2. I'd have a beer with the guy and talk about Pieces and Cannibal Holocaust. But he is not a good director.

Ti West. X and that Jim Jones movie (it's about Jim Jones but it's not called Jim Jones: the Movie or something, but it's the same exact story with no twists) were bad.

Soska Sisters blew everyone to get where they are and now they're doing some comic book bullshit and are on Cameo for thirsty fuccboi faggots to give $100 to tell them they're the bestest feminist horror directors.

James Wan. The first Saw is good especially considering the limitations he had to work with (shot in about 2 weeks with under a million dollars). Everything else he's done is shit and he's legitimately a hack (in the truest sense of the word) for doing Aquaman.

Jordan Peele. One hit wonder. I liked Get Out but that's the only gimmick he can do "muh race relations" which is worse than Argento just making the same Giallo film over and over.

Directors I am neutral towards:

Rob Zombie, largely because of Lords of Salem proving he can make a good film that's not the same shit over and over. His Halloween movies are enjoyable and for my money are better than the 2018 movie and Kills.

Fede Alvarez, I like the guy's enthusiasm and camera work but he's yet to make a film I genuinely liked. At best I'm like "Yeah, that was okay." Regarding Don't Breathe and his Evil Dead remake.

Alexandra Aja, aside from Haute Tension I've hated everything else he's done. At least he produced the Maniac remake.

David F. Sandberg. I love his tutorial videos but haven't liked a single film he's made.

GOOD current year horror directors:

Arri Aster, Brandon Cronenberg, Robert Eggars, Scott Derrickson, Nicolas Windin Refn (even if he's massively pretentious), and there's others but they've mostly just made one movie that I liked.
with Aja I'm in a completely different boat. High Tension almost worked for me. It really needed another draft or so and it would have been great. some shit in that film makes no fucking sense after you know the twist.

I actually liked the Hills have Eyes remake, it's not better than the original but it's an alright movie.
Crawl was alright.

Also he produced and wrote the remake of Maniac and ngl I loved that more than the original

(also sorry for deleting that post I meant to do that for another thread and I have too many tabs open.) I really need to sleep
 
That's disappointing but kinda what I was expecting from the trailer. It sounds like an alright movie to have on in the background.
By all means I wouldn't say to stay away, but yeah lower your expectations and keep it in the background (gore is top notch)

I think Ti West is a hack.
In my best trump voice, WRONG

The House of the Devil is great + comfy. I fucking love it, and that scene in particular really sets the mood
Innkeepers is probably his best horror movie (although I prefer THOTD) overall
In a Valley of Violence is one of the best Western movies in the last 20 years (though it pales next to Bone Tomahawk, ngl

The guy has potential but he's definitely hit or miss.... and he hasn't had a hit in 6+ years at this point.
 
In my best trump voice, WRONG

The House of the Devil is great + comfy. I fucking love it, and that scene in particular really sets the mood
https://youtube.com/watch?v=F913LrBAMSgInnkeepers is probably his best horror movie (although I prefer THOTD) overall
In a Valley of Violence is one of the best Western movies in the last 20 years (though it pales next to Bone Tomahawk, ngl

The guy has potential but he's definitely hit or miss.... and he hasn't had a hit in 6+ years at this point.
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Did you scream like a little girl watching a boy band for the first time when you watched a Ti West movie? Jeeze.

Danzig>Ti West. Fite me I fucking mean it.


Verotika is a more entertaining film than anything made by Ti West and Danzig's follow up Death Rider in the House of Vampires looks even more epic.
 
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