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I'm scrolling through shudder right now and all I'm thinking about is how much I miss going to my local video store's horror section.

edit: I said fuck it and put on American Mary, fitting since Bruno mentioned the Soska Sisters above (I only saw Dead Hooker)
 
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Frank D'arbo said:
I'm scrolling through shudder right now and all I'm thinking about is how much I miss going to my local video store's horror section.

edit: I said fuck it and put on American Mary, fitting since Bruno mentioned the Soska Sisters above (I only saw Dead Hooker)
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Lemme' know how that one is because I've seen Rabid and See No Evil 2 and was just not impressed with either film. The sisters definitely have an issue with pacing and all of the films of theirs that I've seen have the same problem where it takes forever for events to be set in motion.
 
BrunoMattei said:
Lemme' know how that one is because I've seen Rabid and See No Evil 2 and was just not impressed with either film. The sisters definitely have an issue with pacing and all of the films of theirs that I've seen have the same problem where it takes forever for events to be set in motion.
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alright i'll let you know in a few hours since its late here
 
The Nothingness said:
Is it just me or have established horror IPs leaned heavily in the social commentary? Examples include the "evil dies tonight" mob scene from Halloween Kills and the latest Candyman sequel that introduced any black man murdered by white racists, including real people as the ending showed, becomes part of the "hive" and the Candyman legend (so the final scene from the original film where Helen is now the new killer is nullified).
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It's not just horror, it's all genres that have been putting the cart before the horse in the last few years. Movies have always had subtexts and themes that you could find parallels to in social or political issues, due to the fact that good narrative captures something about the human experience, of which is a huge factor in society/politics. The great works of antiquity still endure because they ring true to the timeless humanity they portray, not because of the topical circumstances in which they were written.

Amazing horror films like The Thing stand alone on a strong foundation about the human need for trust opposed by paranoia, identity, and bodily autonomy - but if you shine the light of analysis on it in a certain way, you can find applicable parallels to whatever situation you're in, wether you're an ancient Roman to a future spaceman because those human factors are ever present. When the focus is on putting the narrative, the story and character first then the end product has a shot at being a timeless classic.(Execution counts, of course.) If the goal is instead centered on anything else, such as visual spectacle, 'realism' or political/social messaging then all the production value and skill will not avail - the entire enterprise was misaimed from the start.

Most modern IPs (movies, TV shows, etc) aren't even considering narrative these days. They have tunnel vision on 'sending a message' or 'updating this property' or 'diversifying the cast' and these are the first and last priorities for them. That is why so many of them feel forced, instantly dated, and either repulsive or instantly forgettable to the audience - nothing in them resonates to the fundamental human nature in experience or desire. They may have big budgets for costumes and special effects, but there is nothing at the core of their story to anchor them.
 
Frank D'arbo said:
Long story short
American Mary was shit
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I didn't realize Katherine Isabelle played Mason Verger's abused sister in the Hannibal TV show. Very good actress unlike the Soska's who can neither act nor direct.

The new age of fanboy horror directors are largely a sad lot.
 
Yaks said:
Thinking on the movie NOPE coming out soon, have there been any decent scifi-horror alien invasion/abduction films in the last few years? I don't really count films like A Quiet Place because there isnt the UFO invasion aspect of it, I consider that more in the creature feature realm. Also open to shows too.
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Progeny by Brian Yunza was good. It stars The Mummy from Brendan Frasers The Mummy.
 
GeorgeFloyd said:
Progeny by Brian Yunza was good. It stars The Mummy from Brendan Frasers The Mummy.
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Oh shit I haven't seen that one in years. Not exactly new, but I'll have to rewatch it because it's from one of my favorite film eras anyway.
 
Is anyone actually hyped for an upcoming horror release?

I’ll probably watch X just to see if it’s any good, considering the IMDB rating, but I’m not actually looking forward to anything with a planned wide release. I still haven’t seen the new TCM and based on the retarded social commentary subtext it will probably be a while before I do (though I inevitability will because I’m a masochistic completist). I’m burned out on that bullshit after Halloween Kills. You could make a fucking drinking game out of ‘evil dies tonight’. I’ve seen some teasers for Nope and I hold no optimism. Jordan Peele is only where he is because of what he is. Liberals entertained his nigger fantasy in Get Out and threw money towards him for Us, a film that wanted to have some semblance of a decent plot line, but just couldn’t. Peele can only write comedy and dream up some vaguely creepy visuals. I will still watch to see if he can at least pull himself up after the abysmal Twilight Zone revamp, but my hopes remain low. He should just go a la M. Night and embrace the schlock instead of trying to write deep-thunk screenplays.

Last film I watched was November and I would definitely recommend if you’re into Folk Horror, or general Euro superstitions, especially Estonian. It’s a bit long and artsy, but aesthetically and narratively pleasing in the way other folk horror (looking at you Hagazussa) only has been in the former. I’ve also seen: A Classic Horror Story, which was OK, not worth a recommendation. Annihilation, another film that wanted to be good Cosmic Horror, but just couldn’t. Just about snorted my beer out of my nose with the interracial cuck scene, shit was like a bad 4chan joke (that bear was terrifying though). Going to read the book, because I’m sure it’s better. And finally The Deep House, which was fun, but not proper kino. Worth a watch if nothing else is on. Kudos for the unexpected ending though.

Films I’ve meant to watch but haven’t the time are The Medium, VHS 94, Lamb, Last Night in Soho, Titane, The Scary of 61st, and Antlers. Sort of varied, but my interests are regardless.

Edit: I can not spell for shit.
 
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BrunoMattei said:
I didn't realize Katherine Isabelle played Mason Verger's abused sister in the Hannibal TV show. Very good actress unlike the Soska's who can neither act nor direct.

The new age of fanboy horror directors are largely a sad lot.
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I saw the praise for the Soskas in some quarters and it was a real I FEEL LIKE I'M TAKING CRAZY PILLS moment for me. The Rabid remake was like every other remake that has no ideas besides, what, just recreating the original film almost but not quite shot for shot? The effect is not unlike watching one of Larry Buchanan's low-rent made-for-TV remakes of AIP movies like She Creature or The Monster That Conquered The World.
 
Commander X said:
I saw the praise for the Soskas in some quarters and it was a real I FEEL LIKE I'M TAKING CRAZY PILLS moment for me. The Rabid remake was like every other remake that has no ideas besides, what, just recreating the original film almost but not quite shot for shot? The effect is not unlike watching one of Larry Buchanan's low-rent made-for-TV remakes of AIP movies like She Creature or The Monster That Conquered The World.
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I kind of enjoyed How To Make a Monster featuring the late Julie Strain and her big tits.
 
Calandrino said:
I wrote it off as just gender-swapped CG-heavy Stalker from the trailer... seems pretty well-received though.
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It’s actually based on a book by Jeff VanderMeer that won a Shirley Jackson Award if I’m not mistaken. So the source material seems solid, though I haven’t had the opportunity to read it yet. The all female cast honestly didn’t feel forced, it sort of flowed naturally into the story, which was good for once. The CG was serviceable, but the bear (horrifying as it was) would have still been better as a puppet, at least based on models that I’ve seen.

BrunoMattei said:
I liked Annihilation. Fuck you.
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Bruno, I’ve seen Cruel Jaws. Shh.
 
This was one of the black-and-white AIP films that, as I mentioned a few posts back, Larry Buchanan remade as made-for-TV color movies in the 60s, in this case as Attack of The The Eye Creatures ("They just didn't care.")

 
Commander X said:
This was one of the black-and-white AIP films that, as I mentioned a few posts back, Larry Buchanan remade as made-for-TV color movies in the 60s, in this case as Attack of The The Eye Creatures ("They just didn't care.")

https://youtube.com/watch?v=E6jf3oNjuO0
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I've heard Zontar is particularly shit too, but tbh I actually mostly like It Conquered The World so I've never bothered.
 
Colonel Gaddafi said:
I’ve seen some teasers for Nope and I hold no optimism. Jordan Peele is only where he is because of what he is. Liberals entertained his nigger fantasy in Get Out
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I can spoil the movie for you right now, and tell you that the aliens in Nope kidnap, experiment on and force the black characters to perform for their amusement. The only way the black characters survive is by being smart, resourceful, noble and beautiful (the opposite of reality). Then at the end twist it is revealed that White people were aliens in disguise all along.
 
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