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[Calandrino]

Found the full list and it is worse than I thought

The 50 Best Horror Movies You've Never Seen...

This list is a transcription from the recently released documentary special "The 50 Best Horror Movies You've Never Seen", how many of

www.listchallenges.com

Night of the Hunter is seen as an outright classic movie, well known and well-loved. Also, it's not a horror movie.

Let Right One In and Audition are only there because whoever did the list, thinks just because they aren't in English means people won't have heard or seen them, despite both being two of the best-reviewed and well-liked movies of the year they came out. Let the Right One in is one of the most reviewed movies on imdb.

Halloween 3, is a fuckin Halloween movie, people may have disliked it when it came out, but that doesn't mean it is unseen.

Looks like a pretty nice list of some of the most beloved and successful horror movies ever made. A few of them at least bombed financially, like Slither and Near Dark. I've never seen The Conjuring or Paranormal Activity and only one Saw movie, so maybe it's my problem for being too hipster.

Fun fax from wikipedia:

Halloween III: Season of the Witch
Budget	$2.5 million
Box office	$14.4 million (US)

Halloween 4: The Return of Michael Myers
Budget	$5 million
Box office	$17.8 million (US)

For the longest time, I thought Halloween 3 totally bombed, but that's not the case. It just didn't make the Freddy/Jason-type money the studio wanted (and anecdotally, "everybody hated it" or maybe not).

 

[BrunoMattei]

On the topic of the Halloween franchise, does anyone think that the release of an uncut version of Halloween 5 would improve the film?

Best video I could find on the subject despite the terrible intro and the guy's voice is a like it or hate it kind of deal. The guy failed to mention the fabled SWAT team sequence as revealed by the guy who played Myers:

“Oh, I took out Haddonfield’s SWAT team, I killed a whole bunch of people. [The scenes] took place at the hospital, the place where Danielle’s character left from. If you remember, the police get on the radio (in the film) and they say, ‘He’s here,’ and the whole SWAT team (which is stationed) at the Myers house gets in their cars and they drive off, and there’s one guy left up (in the house) with Danielle in the bedroom, and then there’s one guy down below in a police car (on the street), and over the radio he hears people screaming. So that’s where the (SWAT massacre) scene was to be – just before that.“

“There’s one guy, and I mean they show it, when they’re taking out one of the bodies, whose head is twisted around. They put the wardrobe on him backwards, and he looks like his head’s been twisted one hundred and eighty degrees. And another, the direction was, ‘Take an M16 rifle, and you’re just walking through these guys and killing them.’ There’s Donre Samson, a big tall black guy that I kill, and another one, I put the M16 through his head, and another guy, I break his neck and stomp on him, you know. The whole idea was that you’d hear everybody screaming (over the radio) when he’s killing everybody. So we did all these really quick shots. You know: ‘Pick this guy up. Knock this guy down. Stab this guy.'”

I know the original producer of the franchise, Moustapha Akkad, was against going for the gore in the series. A policy that was largely retained up until his death with Halloween 6 being the outlier (and explaining the lack of gore in the producer's cut). As soon as he died in a terrorist attack in Israel (you can't make this shit up) came the brutality of the Rob Zombie movies.

 

[Internet War Criminal]

Found the full list and it is worse than I thought

The 50 Best Horror Movies You've Never Seen...

This list is a transcription from the recently released documentary special "The 50 Best Horror Movies You've Never Seen", how many of

www.listchallenges.com

See i'm of two minds when it comes to shit like this.

On one hand, my eyes are rolling so hard I'm worried I'm gonna pull a muscle. On the other hand, if it's gonna take someone barely knows anything when it comes to horror movies except the huge mainstream names (and I don't mean shit like NoeS or FT13, I'm talking about mainstream pg-13 releases) and it's gonna get them to watch genre stuff that's worth watching, then it's a good thing.

Although the idea that Night of the fucking Hunter is some unknown unseen movie when it's a literal classic of cinema that every first year film school student has seen is hilarious.

 

[Nero You're DeadWeight]

Finally a place I can talk about 3 weird ass movies that i've never seen anyone talk about really. I'll be as vauge as I can but give the general plot.

So, Pet (2016) Was pretty good? I'm not huge into torture movies at all, but something about Pet was really good. It's about a guy who works at a dog shelter who falls in love with this one woman, but the woman had a dirty secrets and the dog shelter dude kidnap's her and locks her in a cage only for things to escalate from there.

Victim (2010) is one my personal favorites. It's one of those "what the hell is this" flicks I found on chiller years ago before they got rid of the channel. It's about a guy who's kidnapped and tortured by a mad scientist. Essentially, the guy is kidnapped because he did some shit to the scientists daughter and the scientist is like "I am going to mind break the shit out of you until your a woman". It's really fucked up but a good watch.

Recently watched this movie called Monster Brawl. Super fucking stupid and it's on Tubi but I liked it. Watched it with my dad, it's about monsters in a boxing ring. I'm serious that's it. Classic monsters, beating the shit out of eachother. It's a so bad it's good movie.

 

[frozenrunner]

Let Right One In and Audition are only there because whoever did the list, thinks just because they aren't in English means people won't have heard or seen them, despite both being two of the best-reviewed and well-liked movies of the year they came out. Let the Right One in is one of the

Speaking of, this might be the right thread to say it in: I think the American remake, Let Me In, is great and is in some ways superior/preferable to the original film. (Which I love, don't get me wrong.) There are elements of and scenes from both that I really liked, and that's not what I expected when I watched a stupid American remake.

The "twist" in the original, in particular, is a really confusing, distracting, and, in my mind, pointless addition to the plot unless you're going to do more with it. Sure, it's shocking and memorable, but they don't explain anything about it (I believe there was a cut flashback) or do anything further with it. You're just left wondering, "The vampire is a castrated little boy... but why? What happened?" And not wondering in a way that ads to the film. (I know the book explains it.)

 

[Internet War Criminal]

Speaking of, this might be the right thread to say it in: I think the American remake, Let Me In, is great and is in some ways superior/preferable to the original film. (Which I love, don't get me wrong.) There are elements of and scenes from both that I really liked, and that's not what I expected when I watched a stupid American remake.

It's current year +8, we can stop pretending that every foreign movie is automatically superior to it's american remake counterpart by virtue of subtitles and a shittier production.

Sometimes/often enough it's the case, but nowhere near enough to justify the dread people have of saying 'Actually the remake might be better' out of fear that a bunch of soyjacks will reeee at them for not appreciating norwegian or danish cinema or whatever when the fucking norwegian or danes themselves prefer to watch American movies over their own shitty country's output 9 times out of 10

 

[Product Placement]

Speaking of, this might be the right thread to say it in: I think the American remake, Let Me In, is great and is in some ways superior/preferable to the original film. (Which I love, don't get me wrong.) There are elements of and scenes from both that I really liked, and that's not what I expected when I watched a stupid American remake.

The "twist" in the original, in particular, is a really confusing, distracting, and, in my mind, pointless addition to the plot unless you're going to do more with it. Sure, it's shocking and memorable, but they don't explain anything about it (I believe there was a cut flashback) or do anything further with it. You're just left wondering, "The vampire is a castrated little boy... but why? What happened?" And not wondering in a way that ads to the film. (I know the book explains it.)

Disagree on the remake for Let the Right One In, but are for sure American remakes of movies, I like more than the originals. Some Like It Hot and the Girl with the Dragon Tatoo being my top two.

 

[Hazel Motes]

People fucking hated Halloween 3. The current day "love" for that movie are from people who weren't around when it came out and only think that liking the most disliked film of the franchise gives them some dumb hipster cred.

That movie is single handedly responsible for all the following Halloween movies just being mindless F13 clones, I believe John Carpenter even said that himself in the In Search of Darkness documentary.

I personally think 3 was ok, but they should have made it it's own thing and it probably would have done better.

People fucking hated Halloween 3. The current day "love" for that movie are from people who weren't around when it came out and only think that liking the most disliked film of the franchise gives them some dumb hipster cred.

That movie is single handedly responsible for all the following Halloween movies just being mindless F13 clones, I believe John Carpenter even said that himself in the In Search of Darkness documentary.

I personally think 3 was ok, but they should have made it it's own thing and it probably would have done better.

I liked it but I really wished they would have used Nigel Kneale's (the Quatermass guy) original script. I would have loved to see it remade now with that in mind. A good film is inside it just waiting for the right director.

Nigel Kneale and 'Halloween III' » We Are Cult

❉ How different was Halloween III from the original script as written by Nigel Kneale? Kneale biographer Andy Murray reveals all...

wearecult.rocks

 

[A Grey Cat]

So this may go off topic and more in line with the guns thread but, I recall back when Halloween 2018 or as i like to call it Halloween H40, Jamie lee Curtis got some flack for being all for assault weapons bans and strict gun control...the same year she played a character armed to the teeth to fight Michael Myers in response she had this to say

“I fully support the Bill of Rights. And fully support the Second Amendment. And have absolutely no problem with people owning firearms if they have been trained, licensed, a background check has been conducted, a pause button has been pushed to give time for that process to take place.

I also recall but can't find an exact quote on it but she mentioned something along the lines of her character owing lever action rifles, revolvers and pistol grip shotguns, because she believes people should only be allowed to own those types of guns. Which if true....well it's defiantly better than most actors in Hollywood who wanna ban all guns and the right to self defense.

 

[White Devil]

So this may go off topic and more in line with the guns thread but, I recall back when Halloween 2018 or as i like to call it Halloween H40, Jamie lee Curtis got some flack for being all for assault weapons bans and strict gun control...the same year she played a character armed to the teeth to fight Michael Myers in response she had this to say



I also recall but can't find an exact quote on it but she mentioned something along the lines of her character owing lever action rifles, revolvers and pistol grip shotguns, because she believes people should only be allowed to own those types of guns. Which if true....well it's defiantly better than most actors in Hollywood who wanna ban all guns and the right to self defense.

She's wrong and is a dumb bitch that fundamentally does not understand the Bill of Rights. Also, she encouraged her kids to troon out.

 

[Internet War Criminal]

"I fully support the 2nd Amendment Right of people, as long as we curtail it and limit it in ways I agree that go against what the 2nd Amendment actually says"

Explain to me why a battered woman who wants to get a gun to protect herself from her psycho ex-husband who threatened to kill her should have to wait a month before she's able to defend herself, Jamie Lee.

 

[A Grey Cat]

She's wrong and is a dumb bitch that fundamentally does not understand the Bill of Rights. Also, she encouraged her kids to troon out.

wtf?!....jamie lee curtis had kids?!

 

[White Devil]

wtf?!....jamie lee curtis had kids?!

Yup.

 

[A Grey Cat]

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Yup.

jesus christ idk what makes me feel older that or the fact that donald pleaseance, moustha akkad Dan O'Herlihy and deberorha hill are all dead. At least they aren't alive to see whats become of the og scream queen.

 

[BrunoMattei]

Yup.

The son is also a fan of Low Tier God.

I liked it but I really wished they would have used Nigel Kneale's (the Quatermass guy) original script. I would have loved to see it remade now with that in mind. A good film is inside it just waiting for the right director.

Nigel Kneale and 'Halloween III' » We Are Cult

❉ How different was Halloween III from the original script as written by Nigel Kneale? Kneale biographer Andy Murray reveals all...

wearecult.rocks

Terrible article. Has that usual British snark to it.

 

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wtf?!....jamie lee curtis had kids?!

adopted

 

[Internet War Criminal]

So I watched No Escape (2020) (alt title Follow Me) and I thought it was fucking fantastic. Douchebag streamer decides to fly to Russia to try some underground Escape Room and, well, things go to shit real fast. There are a couple genre switches that keep things fresh, the acting is good, the gore is top notch, it's short and sweet... A huge recommend for some into that kind of shit. 4.25/5

 

[Product Placement]

So I watched No Escape (2020) (alt title Follow Me) and I thought it was fucking fantastic. Douchebag streamer decides to fly to Russia to try some underground Escape Room and, well, things go to shit real fast. There are a couple genre switches that keep things fresh, the acting is good, the gore is top notch, it's short and sweet... A huge recommend for some into that kind of shit. 4.25/5

Couldn't disagree more, felt like if the Hallmark Channel tried their hand at making a Saw/Hostel rip off to me.

The build-up takes much too long, and they don't use that 40 minutes to really do any character work outside the main character, well they do say the black chick failed to get into the x-games which is more than the rest of them got. Hell, they don't even give any of the characters the basic archetypes seen in horror movies, which would have been something.

Nothing wrong with something that takes things slowly and builds up to the horror, but use that time for something, rather than watching characters I don't care about and not given a reason to care about dick around for 40 minutes.

The acting from the Americans is very much Lifetime or Hallmark level acting, can sure find worse acting out there but still sub-par. The people playing the Russians on the other hand are mostly pretty bad and I had to laugh at some points because of their acting.

The movie is very goreless overall, mostly just a bit of blood but it being goreless really gave the twist away, but pretty sure anyone could see it coming from just the first 5 minutes anyway and would have been better if there was no twist, would have been fresher.

One thing I will give it, the escape room traps in the movie, don't feel as unrealistic as ones found in other movies or as pure bullshit. I could believe he could solve them.

Would have to give it a 2 or 3/10 if I was rating thing, never fun or scary or even interesting in anyway, I guess it was less annoying than Escape Room: Tournament of Champions.

 

[Internet War Criminal]

Couldn't disagree more, felt like if the Hallmark Channel tried their hand at making a Saw/Hostel rip off to me.

I started the movie not knowing about it, so I was entertained by the genre switch where it went from Escape Room to Saw to Hostel to The Game. I did drink a copious amount of alcohol before and during, but I enjoyed all of those movies (literally, all of them and their sequels) so it scratched that trash itch for me. It's not meant to be serious flick, but an entertaining one with great gore, and I thought it really did all of that

rather than watching characters I don't care about and not given a reason to care about dick around for 40 minutes.

I don't know, I think it did a good job establishing who they are as characters, as well as throwing some red herrings about who worked for who etc.. that were necessary for the reveal. Agreed it could have been maybe.... 5 minutes shorter, but overall it didn't feel like they wasted their time. I'll agree the other characters could have been fleshed out more though.

The acting from the American is very much Lifetime or Hallmark level acting, can sure find worse acting out there but still sub-par. The people playing the Russians on the other hand are mostly pretty bad and I had to laugh at some points because of their acting.

See that's a question of preferences, I fucking love my Russians broad and caricatures in those movies, I don't want them realistic.

The movie is very goreless overall, mostly just a bit of blood but it being goreless really gave the twist away, but pretty sure anyone could see it coming from just the first 5 minutes anyway and would have been better if there was no twist, would have been fresher.

Literally the the first room he has to go and root through the intestines of a cadaver in very graphic details

but pretty sure anyone could see it coming from just the first 5 minutes anyway and would have been better if there was no twist, would have been fresher.

One thing I will give it, the escape room traps in the movie, don't feel as unrealistic as ones found in other movies or as pure bullshit. I could believe he could solve them all.

You could see the twist coming from miles away, however the real twist is not the fact that it was all planned to celebrate the 10th anniversary, it's the fact that he bashes Aleixi's face and now he's fucked for life

It's the equivalent of fast food, but I happen to love that brand of shit food and anyone into those movies will enjoy it as well

 

[Product Placement]

You could see the twist coming from miles away, however the real twist is not the fact that it was all planned to celebrate the 10th anniversary, it's the fact that he bashes Aleixi's face and now he's fucked for life

It's the equivalent of fast food, but I happen to love that brand of shit food and anyone into those movies will enjoy it as well

I mean that is not really a twist and is also well overdone, and something I saw coming. Another movie I also disliked Play or Die from 2019 also did something pretty much the same. But just because has something has a twist you see coming doesn't make it bad, the poor execution does. And with this movie thought the execution was overall shit.

I stand by it being overall goreless, only really two parts with gore I would say and I didn't think either were badly done but they weren't anything stand out or very strong.

I just find movies like this really bland and boring, painfully run of the mill. Most of them are like the straight to DVD Bruce Willis at best or maybe Steven Seagal straight to DVD movies at worse.