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I give them credit for maintaining continuity for 7 movies spanning just over 30 years but it'll be confusing as all hell to anyone coming into it that isn't familiar with it. I still don't know what to think of Chucky possessing a human and having multiple Chucky dolls running around. It was something different in Cult of Chucky but the TV show will be the ultimate stress test for the concept.
 
Finally watched Evil Dead 2 yesterday. I took a weird route to it... saw Army of Darkness as a kid, then saw Ash vs. Evil Dead, then saw the original Evil Dead last year.

Yeah, it's brilliant obviously. I actually prefer the original film in some ways (the plot, mostly), but I had a lot of fun with ED2. I can see why fans of the second movie dislike AoD, as it really does (intentionally) tip over the edge into outright absurdity. Anyway, it's a hell of a thing to watch a movie that old and say, "how the fuck did they film that?!" (I also somehow didn't have the mirror scene spoiled for me. Incredibly effective.) It was a great watch.

I can't imagine how I would have reacted to/enjoyed ED2 if I had seen it without seeing everything else first and having a lot of the tropes "spoiled" for me. My personal list of the films is something like AoD > ED1 = ED2. (I like the latter for different reasons.) I guess I should see the reboot, though I honestly don't have much interest without Campbell involved.

Should I bother watching Within the Woods? I know it's really a prototype for the ED movies and not a proper entry, but ED2 basically ignores ED1, so...

Also, I rewatched about half of Army of Darkness right after finishing 2. Every time I watch that movie I notice more and more subtle absurdities. So great.
Anyways anyone have any thoughts on John Carpenter's In The Mouth Of Madness?
Flawed but really cool film. One of Carpenter's better flicks. It does a good job of expressing Lovecraftian horror in a particularly cinematic way, if that makes any sense.
 
Finally watched Evil Dead 2 yesterday. I took a weird route to it... saw Army of Darkness as a kid, then saw Ash vs. Evil Dead, then saw the original Evil Dead last year.

Yeah, it's brilliant obviously. I actually prefer the original film in some ways (the plot, mostly), but I had a lot of fun with ED2. I can see why fans of the second movie dislike AoD, as it really does (intentionally) tip over the edge into outright absurdity. Anyway, it's a hell of a thing to watch a movie that old and say, "how the fuck did they film that?!" (I also somehow didn't have the mirror scene spoiled for me. Incredibly effective.) It was a great watch.

I can't imagine how I would have reacted to/enjoyed ED2 if I had seen it without seeing everything else first and having a lot of the tropes "spoiled" for me. My personal list of the films is something like AoD > ED1 = ED2. (I like the latter for different reasons.) I guess I should see the reboot, though I honestly don't have much interest without Campbell involved.

Should I bother watching Within the Woods? I know it's really a prototype for the ED movies and not a proper entry, but ED2 basically ignores ED1, so...

Also, I rewatched about half of Army of Darkness right after finishing 2. Every time I watch that movie I notice more and more subtle absurdities. So great.

Flawed but really cool film. One of Carpenter's better flicks. It does a good job of expressing Lovecraftian horror in a particularly cinematic way, if that makes any sense.
If it makes you feel any better I started with Army of Darkness and then either watched the first or second film afterwards. Evil Dead 2 is great. There's no definitive favorite of the trilogy among the fan base. I tend to prefer the first because it's a more pure horror experience. On that note, I'm going to see the re-release of the first movie on the 7th. I think this version has a new score by the original composer.

If you go down that rabbit hole with Within The Woods you may as well check out Equinox which has been considered the direct inspiration for Evil Dead. It has the same exact concept only difference is that it doesn't lean into the gore nearly as much and has much in the way of charming claymation effects in homage of Harryhausen.

The original Within the Woods is a fascinating watch but not a requirement. Sam Raimi is embarrassed by it and has put the kibosh on any kind of official release.
 
I give them credit for maintaining continuity for 7 movies spanning just over 30 years but it'll be confusing as all hell to anyone coming into it that isn't familiar with it. I still don't know what to think of Chucky possessing a human and having multiple Chucky dolls running around. It was something different in Cult of Chucky but the TV show will be the ultimate stress test for the concept.
i mean it worked with Ash Vs Evil Dead, I don't see why it couldn't work here as long as the writing is good enough.

Finally watched Evil Dead 2 yesterday. I took a weird route to it... saw Army of Darkness as a kid, then saw Ash vs. Evil Dead, then saw the original Evil Dead last year.

Yeah, it's brilliant obviously. I actually prefer the original film in some ways (the plot, mostly), but I had a lot of fun with ED2
You're not the only one. It's usually a litmus test between people who prefer the more horror vibes versus those who prefer the more slapstick comedy and gore.

AvED > ED 1 > AoD (Director's Cut) > ED 2 > AoD (Theatrical)

Day 4 movie was: A Quiet Place 2

Well, turns out that Jim was really the glue that held the last movie together and made it something special. Maybe that's why they decided to go even more quiet, literally stretches of 10+ minutes without any dialogue, even signed, but overall there wasn't increased tension or anything similar. It wasn't terrible by any stretch of the imagination, but it's a really lukewarm follow up to a great first movie, and the definition of a sequel that only happened as a cash grab because of the original's popularity, rather than because they had more story to tell. 3/5

Ironically, this movie is so self-contained that if you had never seen the original and knew nothing about it, and then watched the sequel, you'd probably rate it much higher. To me it kinda has that Paranormal Activity 1/2 thing going on where the sequel just feels like a remake with a larger budget. Hopefully AQP3 is gonna go the way of PA3 and be the best one in the series (and then stop there).

I'll still watch it because it's not like Part 2 was terrible, just wholly unnecessary.
 
So far I've seen the following:

Train to Busan (2016) - This is now one of my favorite zombie movies. I loved the spastic movements of the zombies and though they played around with "the living are the real threat" trope found in most zombie films, they did so in an interesting way. The camaraderie among the main survivors was the best part.

Village of the Damned (1960 and 1995) - I watched both of these back to back. Carpenter's version is gorier and plays around with the idea of one of the children developing emotions, but it never goes anywhere. Seems like he was setting up a sequel that never materialized. Either film is fine, though the 1995 version is easier to get. I'm not sure why he chose Christopher Reeve and Kirstie Alley to play doctors, but I guess they were popular at the time? Anyway, these were both ok films.

Tremors (1990) - This is a classic monster film that still holds up and manages to be entertaining in spite of its PG-13 rating. A lot of the cast is great and there is plenty of good humor. I also tried watching Tremors 2 after this one, but I fell asleep as there is a precipitous drop in quality from the first film.

All of The Omen films (1976-2006) - Only the first three are worth watching, especially 1 and 3 because the first is genuinely chilling and the third has Sam Neill hamming it up as the Antichrist. The fourth is an awful, awful TV movie that I remember airing on Fox back in the day. It's basically a gorier Problem Child without the humor, though watching Delia terrorize hippies was slightly amusing. The Omen remake is possibly the most pointless film I've ever seen. It is practically a shot-for-shot remake with a worse cast.

The Faculty (1998) - I don't get scared easily, but the Invasion of the Body Snatchers films from both the 50s and 70s freaked me out quite a bit. The Faculty is a horror comedy based on these films and it's pretty good. The cast has a lot of well known actors and the CGI is decent most of the time. The way they manage to fight the aliens is somewhat contrived, but then it's a horror comedy so I didn't think too much about it.

Rawhead Rex (1986) - I only half paid attention to this because it's pretty dumb. There is a surprising amount of gore in it along with a child's death so it's more shocking than I remembered. The creature is laughably bad looking and I can see why Clive Barker was pissed off by this film.

Brightburn (2019) - I wanted to see another evil child film and this one seemed promising because it's basically "What if Superman was evil?" so I was hoping to see the kid tear people in half like wet toilet paper and smash a lot of buildings, but none of that happened. Instead, it was a low budget slasher film and while two of the deaths were fairly gory and cringe-inducing, I was mostly disappointed. I liked Chronicle (2012) more, even though that wasn't a great film either.
 
Day 1: Evil Dead 1

Day 2: Evil Dead 2 and The Empty Man


Day 3: BrainDead/Alive
Day 4: Trick r Treat
Day 5: Return of the Living Dead
Day 6: VHS94
 
It was a nice love letter to Lovecraftian Horror with some good, creepy practical effects. but I can't help but think that Necronomicon (1993) did much better in that regard, with tons of 80's era megacheese and an absolutely balls to the wall final story:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=rGxIJF3qwIs


I liked the Pit and the Pendulum, since it featured Vincent Price going completely manic at the end. (Manic Vincent Price is my favorite Vincent Price.) It also featured Horror Queen Barbara Steele as a villainess who gets the tables turned on her.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=QChBy15UiTs

The Universal mummy movies were kind of ridiculous in how they expected people to be afraid of a shambling mummy going 1 mile an hour. That's why the best of them was the original, which had Boris Karloff (the titular Mummy) throwing away his bandages after the first scene and using sorcery and charisma to accomplish his goals. I will give credit to the third Universal Mummy Movie: The Mummy's Ghost, for having the Mummy win and the girl die at the end. It was a shocking ending for the time. I will also give credit to the 1999 Mummy movie, for making the title monster a near apocalyptic force of nature, but that movie was more of an Indiana Jones type adventure film than a true horror.
In Curse of The Mummy's Tomb and the Christopher Lee Mummy movie they're actually more like Jason Voorhees than shambling zombies.
 
Can i just use the new pf to say say that i miss Dan o hurlehey so much?


The man was perfect in the role Conal Cochran and a worthy successor to Michael Myers had the series gone in the direction it was supposed to if 3 had been better received. He was also great as the ceo of OCP in the first two robcops, you can defiantly see him channeling his Cochran role in Robocop 2 at some points, shame the character got written out of 3 though and never went anywhere.


The only time he played a good guy that I know of is when he was that rock/lizard alien in The Last Starfighter, and that's not the only connection to Halloween that movie has, It was directed by Nick Castle the OG Michael Myers himself and starred Lance Guest AKA Jimmy from Halloween 2.
 
In Curse of The Mummy's Tomb and the Christopher Lee Mummy movie they're actually more like Jason Voorhees than shambling zombies.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=b9nHdaCVLtA
On that note, there's two gory mummy films worth checking out.


Shot in Egypt and features some good makeup. The last 10 minutes becomes a zombie movie.

Then there's The Mummy's Revenge starring the great Paul Naschy. Paul Naschy flicks are more in tone with Hammer horror but with more gore and nudity.
 
If anyone's wondering, yes this new V/H/S movie is better than the third one.

1. V/H/S 2
2. V/H/S 1
3. V/H/S94

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4. that Siren spin off
5. those snapchat originals
6. Gorgeous Vortex (the cut segment from Viral because it had so little to do with the franchise that it was relegated to DVD Bonus content)

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7. my asshole
8. V/H/S Viral (the Spanish segment I'd put up in the top 3 but everything else stays at the bottom.)
 
Interesting it came out just a year before ITMOM Lovecraft was pretty big in the 80s and 90s, shame the man never lived to see how big his name would become. Anyway that plus event horizon makes me wonder why sam neil didn't do more horror roles. In addition to playing Damien in omen 3 i think he had the protentional to be up there with jeffery combs and bill mosley in terms of leading men in horror films.
Possession is my favorite, if you haven't seen that...

If anyone's wondering, yes this new V/H/S movie is better than the third one.

1. V/H/S 2
2. V/H/S 1
3. V/H/S94

POWER GAP

4. that Siren spin off
5. those snapchat originals
6. Gorgeous Vortex (the cut segment from Viral because it had so little to do with the franchise that it was relegated to DVD Bonus content)

POWER GAP
7. my asshole
8. V/H/S Viral (the Spanish segment I'd put up in the top 3 but everything else stays at the bottom.)
V/H/S was one of those movies where I knew I fucked up in the first five minutes but I stuck it out anyway. The haunted house part was ok.

I screwed up my 31 Days of Horror already because I had to go out of town on Saturday.
I can't do one every day, but I can do 31 altogether, probably. Up-to-date so far.

1) Puppetmaster: Axis of Evil (2010) - It doesn't cost a lot of money to do a movie about killer puppets, but holy crap these guys didn't have it. It's mostly a bunch of actors who can't act, standing around and talking. Sadly not the worst Puppetmaster movie.

2) Puppetmaster: Axis Rising (2012) - The last one ended on a cliffhanger, so now I'm locked in, even though the leads have been recast (to no great loss or gain). This is at least somewhat less boring and shitty than the last one and introduces some new puppets. Naming a nazi werewolf puppet "Weremacht" is honestly pretty genius. "Kamikaze" is pretty spicy for last decade, too.

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3) Castle of the Living Dead (1964) - Black and white gothic castle movie featuring Christopher Lee and a young Donald Sutherland. No zombies. Nice photography and a cool orchestral soundtrack. Not far out of the ordinary, but I could watch this kind of stuff nonstop.

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4) Orgasmo (1969) - The giallo, not the Matt Stone/Trey Parker comedy. Pretty sleazy and unbelievable, and not all that much violence or "horror". There's an x-rated American version, but I watched the tame (?) foreign cut.

5) Human Beasts (1980)- Paul Naschy directs a Paul Naschy-penned script, starring Paul Naschy as a devil-may-care antihero. Lots of women want to have sex with him. Can he have sex with all of them, before it's too late? yes Schizophrenic and spends a long time as an action movie before making its way to horror, but it's not boring.

6) Invasion from Inner Earth (1974) - Directed by Bill Rebane (Monster a Go-Go). Humanity is being wiped out by the saucer people, although there's no budget to show it happening, so mostly we focus on people in a cabin talking. I like 1970s UFO mythology and weird 70s movies so I was entertained, but it's rockin' a 2-point-something on IMDB.
 
Possession is my favorite, if you haven't seen that...




1) Puppetmaster: Axis of Evil (2010) - It doesn't cost a lot of money to do a movie about killer puppets, but holy crap these guys didn't have it. It's mostly a bunch of actors who can't act, standing around and talking. Sadly not the worst Puppetmaster movie.

2) Puppetmaster: Axis Rising (2012) - The last one ended on a cliffhanger, so now I'm locked in, even though the leads have been recast (to no great loss or gain). This is at least somewhat less boring and shitty than the last one and introduces some new puppets. Naming a nazi werewolf puppet "Weremacht" is honestly pretty genius. "Kamikaze" is pretty spicy for last decade, too.

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4) Orgasmo (1969) - The giallo, not the Matt Stone/Trey Parker comedy. Pretty sleazy and unbelievable, and not all that much violence or "horror". There's an x-rated American version, but I watched the tame (?) foreign cut.

5) Human Beasts (1980)- Paul Naschy directs a Paul Naschy-penned script, starring Paul Naschy as a devil-may-care antihero. Lots of women want to have sex with him. Can he have sex with all of them, before it's too late? yes Schizophrenic and spends a long time as an action movie before making its way to horror, but it's not boring.
We had Possession on Movie Night a little while ago. It blew everyone away.

The best Puppet Master flick is hands down Littlest Reich despite the fact that it ends on a cliffhanger. I think a direct sequel was supposed to happen but either COVID shut that down or another thing. I remember stupid assholes defending the use of a cliffhanger saying "Oh, they're definitely going to make a follow up!" It's been almost 4 years and still no sequel. Faggots.

It's funny, I like Lenzi's shit but I can't get into any of his Gialli.

Paul Naschy rocks. Watch Hunchback of the Morgue. It's ESSENTIAL Paul Naschy along with Horror Rises From the Tomb.
 
Last night I introduced the wife to Monster Squad because she's never seen it. Amazing that an 80s kids horror movie is enjoyable to someone in their 30s that has never ever seen it.

Wolfmans got fuckin' nards.
 
If anyone's wondering, yes this new V/H/S movie is better than the third one.

1. V/H/S 2
2. V/H/S 1
3. V/H/S94

POWER GAP

4. that Siren spin off
5. those snapchat originals
6. Gorgeous Vortex (the cut segment from Viral because it had so little to do with the franchise that it was relegated to DVD Bonus content)

POWER GAP
7. my asshole
8. V/H/S Viral (the Spanish segment I'd put up in the top 3 but everything else stays at the bottom.)
None of them are good. Found footage films aren't real movies.
 
tonight's 31 for 31 entry is Dracula (1931) feel kinda bad for the universal monsters, they've hit a major rough patch recently. The attempt to bring them all back and together in the "Dark Universe" with 2017's the mummy was a total flop, then the follow up was the 2020 version of the invisible man.
 
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