Horizon: Forbidden West - coming to PS5

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Gimmick Account said:
lol nope, Sylens remains a hilariously colossal cunt for no reason who was secretly planning on letting everyone on earth die to become king of the starmen, and the Klingon lady literally just wants carnage and you get the choice to either execute her or make her serve you and die fighting some robots to make the last mission easier. Which ironically was Sylens' goal for her.

Sylens' dickishness makes me laugh every time
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Sylens is such a troll. I like him.
 
He's very relatable. All you fucking primitives on this gay earth can eat a dick
 
You know, with Elden Ring getting such high praise, and coming out just a week after this game, you really gotta pity Guerrilla Games. The first Horizon got upstaged by Breath Of The Wild no less than a week after the former released, and now the sequel is suffering the same fate from a game that many are comparing to BOTW.

Talk about unlucky. XD
 
At this point I'm, if I had to guess, about a quarter of the way through the game. Except for the 50% black and 25% Asian population of what is apparently Nevada, the culture war shenanigans have been kept to a minimum with a notable exception.

That infamous "jungle tranny" image was nothing. It wasn't a tranny, it was just a guy. All of that tribe dresses that way, regardless of gender. They're a bunch of hippies, so it's normal that they'd be confused for the mentally ill.

As far enbies and LGBTIAAPQWERTY+ go, there's been none of that. This is important because HFW takes place in a world where humanity is barely surviving. Humans are trying to repopulate the earth after only existing for something like a hundred years. After acquiring resources and shoring up defenses, the number one focus of everyone would be to have as many children as is sustainable. I absolutely guarantee we'll be meeting a strong brave BIPOC lesbian at some point, but in 2022 it's remarkable to play a game where they don't have one of those as the player character.

There are also no really fat people, which again, is an important detail when starvation is very real and the only way to earn your keep involves a whole lot of walking at a bare minimum. Even the sun priests cross miles and miles of hostile land on foot regularly. There are people who would qualify as relatively overweight, but they're not very common and they generally hold positions that would justify it, like cooks. "Body diversity" is not a thing here.

The bad news is that since my last post I have met a group of people who are very obviously the true antagonists, and yes, they're all white. Surprise! I'm still holding out hope for Crazy Black Woman to remain an antagonist to balance it out, but I don't expect it.

Gameplaywise, I'm playing on Very Hard and there have been a lot of instances of the game just being completely unreasonable with its difficulty. I beat the first game on the super secret ultra hard difficulty no problem, but this one is ridiculous. Everything is a damage sponge. Don't even try to remove components unless you're way, way higher level than the machine. The only reasonable tactics are to element match canisters (if they have any) and perform critical strikes. Oh, and the sharpshot bow's power shot, whatever it's called. That attack works like a charm.

If not for the fact that tear damage is so shitty it almost seems bugged, it wouldn't be so bad. But if you plan on playing on Very Hard, expect to explore absolutely every inch of the map before doing any major quests, because you'll need those skill points and levels.
 
Today's fun, blowing up bunches of Grazers using fire arrows, sadly they have to go boom twice. Was nice when some humans wandered in and got blowed up real good too.
 
LightDragonman1 said:
You know, with Elden Ring getting such high praise, and coming out just a week after this game, you really gotta pity Guerrilla Games. The first Horizon got upstaged by Breath Of The Wild no less than a week after the former released, and now the sequel is suffering the same fate from a game that many are comparing to BOTW.

Talk about unlucky. XD
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maybe their games are just not that good
 
You're The Man Now Dog said:
At this point I'm, if I had to guess, about a quarter of the way through the game. Except for the 50% black and 25% Asian population of what is apparently Nevada, the culture war shenanigans have been kept to a minimum with a notable exception.

That infamous "jungle tranny" image was nothing. It wasn't a tranny, it was just a guy. All of that tribe dresses that way, regardless of gender. They're a bunch of hippies, so it's normal that they'd be confused for the mentally ill.

As far enbies and LGBTIAAPQWERTY+ go, there's been none of that. This is important because HFW takes place in a world where humanity is barely surviving. Humans are trying to repopulate the earth after only existing for something like a hundred years. After acquiring resources and shoring up defenses, the number one focus of everyone would be to have as many children as is sustainable. I absolutely guarantee we'll be meeting a strong brave BIPOC lesbian at some point, but in 2022 it's remarkable to play a game where they don't have one of those as the player character.

There are also no really fat people, which again, is an important detail when starvation is very real and the only way to earn your keep involves a whole lot of walking at a bare minimum. Even the sun priests cross miles and miles of hostile land on foot regularly. There are people who would qualify as relatively overweight, but they're not very common and they generally hold positions that would justify it, like cooks. "Body diversity" is not a thing here.

The bad news is that since my last post I have met a group of people who are very obviously the true antagonists, and yes, they're all white. Surprise! I'm still holding out hope for Crazy Black Woman to remain an antagonist to balance it out, but I don't expect it.

Gameplaywise, I'm playing on Very Hard and there have been a lot of instances of the game just being completely unreasonable with its difficulty. I beat the first game on the super secret ultra hard difficulty no problem, but this one is ridiculous. Everything is a damage sponge. Don't even try to remove components unless you're way, way higher level than the machine. The only reasonable tactics are to element match canisters (if they have any) and perform critical strikes. Oh, and the sharpshot bow's power shot, whatever it's called. That attack works like a charm.

If not for the fact that tear damage is so shitty it almost seems bugged, it wouldn't be so bad. But if you plan on playing on Very Hard, expect to explore absolutely every inch of the map before doing any major quests, because you'll need those skill points and levels.
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There's nothing really egregious but you're too early in; you're mistaken about a lot of that (I've completed everything but the arena).

The type scaling does seem messed up on higher difficulties. For tear damage I went out of my way to get better a hunter bows. There's purple one that easily outclasses the sniper bows for tear with triple shot (and I think can be upgraded to like +50% draw speed even before mods) for example.
But that's nothing compared to how hard it is to get shit like plasma to pop (for like a bullshit 300 damage after the agonising post-proc delay) so I stuck with tear exclusively until about the last third when I stopped caring about parts and just blasted everything with explosive spikes (which seem to be the exception and fucking melt everything).
 
LightDragonman1 said:
You know, with Elden Ring getting such high praise, and coming out just a week after this game, you really gotta pity Guerrilla Games. The first Horizon got upstaged by Breath Of The Wild no less than a week after the former released, and now the sequel is suffering the same fate from a game that many are comparing to BOTW.

Talk about unlucky. XD
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The first horizon game sold over 20 million copies which is more than most series have done in their lifetime.

You're The Man Now Dog said:
At this point I'm, if I had to guess, about a quarter of the way through the game. Except for the 50% black and 25% Asian population of what is apparently Nevada, the culture war shenanigans have been kept to a minimum with a notable exception.

That infamous "jungle tranny" image was nothing. It wasn't a tranny, it was just a guy. All of that tribe dresses that way, regardless of gender. They're a bunch of hippies, so it's normal that they'd be confused for the mentally ill.

As far enbies and LGBTIAAPQWERTY+ go, there's been none of that. This is important because HFW takes place in a world where humanity is barely surviving. Humans are trying to repopulate the earth after only existing for something like a hundred years. After acquiring resources and shoring up defenses, the number one focus of everyone would be to have as many children as is sustainable. I absolutely guarantee we'll be meeting a strong brave BIPOC lesbian at some point, but in 2022 it's remarkable to play a game where they don't have one of those as the player character.

There are also no really fat people, which again, is an important detail when starvation is very real and the only way to earn your keep involves a whole lot of walking at a bare minimum. Even the sun priests cross miles and miles of hostile land on foot regularly. There are people who would qualify as relatively overweight, but they're not very common and they generally hold positions that would justify it, like cooks. "Body diversity" is not a thing here.

The bad news is that since my last post I have met a group of people who are very obviously the true antagonists, and yes, they're all white. Surprise! I'm still holding out hope for Crazy Black Woman to remain an antagonist to balance it out, but I don't expect it.

Gameplaywise, I'm playing on Very Hard and there have been a lot of instances of the game just being completely unreasonable with its difficulty. I beat the first game on the super secret ultra hard difficulty no problem, but this one is ridiculous. Everything is a damage sponge. Don't even try to remove components unless you're way, way higher level than the machine. The only reasonable tactics are to element match canisters (if they have any) and perform critical strikes. Oh, and the sharpshot bow's power shot, whatever it's called. That attack works like a charm.

If not for the fact that tear damage is so shitty it almost seems bugged, it wouldn't be so bad. But if you plan on playing on Very Hard, expect to explore absolutely every inch of the map before doing any major quests, because you'll need those skill points and levels.
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The Utaru are vegetarians in game and it gets mentioned a shitload of times.

Also Sky Clan has a lone gay dude who looks like John Cena.

I have nearly all the map covered and all the quests done I just have the last island to do. Thats the only gay dude I found.
 
I’m not too far in, but I did find it annoying how

Aloy and Varl just stood around and did jackshit when the Tenakth rebels slaughtered Fashav and the Carja
 
I didn't like the first game that much (it just didn't grab me) but I do like the world/setting. What's the deal with the new clans you find? Some one said one of them worhsips the remains of the US Military?
 
Back me up! said:
I didn't like the first game that much (it just didn't grab me) but I do like the world/setting. What's the deal with the new clans you find? Some one said one of them worhsips the remains of the US Military?
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Yeah you'll come across holograms that are remains from a US Military Museum and the people featured in them are referred in reverence as The Ten. The Throne room to the place has an F-35 hanging vertically to act as a backing to the actual seat. They also provide quests and rewards linked to collecting Black Boxes from crashed airplane wrecks.

Then there's other tribes like Utaru for example built a suspended ewok village off of radar dish arrays and have domesticated robot triceratops plow the fields for them and those robots are also worshipped as gods.

There is a shitload of actual stuff from the old world that's featured in comparison to the first game. You'll come across stuff like entire fields of tanks and military vehicles with dead robot drones on top of them for example.
 
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Marissa Moira said:
Thats the only gay dude I found.
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There's one or two more but it's always just mentioning their husband or wife in passing and nothing else (at least one quen and I think an oseram or two, besides that one zenith).
Same thing in logs you find. Literally the only time anyone's spouse is mentioned is when it's their dead gay husband.

It's not really bothersome until you notice that's exclusively the case lol
 
Maybe I’m not getting it, but is there a reason why the Zero Dawn people were so dead set against Far Zenith having their own copy of GAIA?
 
Gimmick Account said:
There's one or two more but it's always just mentioning their husband or wife in passing and nothing else (at least one quen and I think an oseram or two, besides that one zenith).
Same thing in logs you find. Literally the only time anyone's spouse is mentioned is when it's their dead gay husband.

It's not really bothersome until you notice that's exclusively the case lol
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I remember in Zero Dawn it was the same. Practically every audio log or note you found that mentioned a relationship made sure to let you know it was a gay relationship.

That and there's the one Frozen Wilds quest where all the voice recordings were about factory worker lesbians and their shitty punk band.

Really gave the impression that the pre-apocalypse world was about 98% gay.
 
Mega Black said:
Alloy apparently has fully modeled puffy aereolas that you can see by glitching the camera through certain outfits and I think that alone is enough to make this game of the year.
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You can't tell us that and then not post them.

Why would they model them in? I've forgotten, is Alloy's character modeled after a real human?
 
Aldeland said:
You can't tell us that and then not post them.

Why would they model them in? I've forgotten, is Alloy's character modeled after a real human?
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Feast your eyes... on THESE!

Nipples.jpg

I dunno, I guess somebody on the dev team just really likes their nipples. A topless outfit might have made up for the fact that her face is ugly as sin.
 
Aldeland said:
You can't tell us that and then not post them.

Why would they model them in? I've forgotten, is Alloy's character modeled after a real human?
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Two likely reasons I can think of:
  • Base models you might start modelling with tend to be anatomically correct (minus spam purses usually). Even if you're going to be heavily editing the character into unrecognisability using a stock base or generating one can help with consistent dimensions/proportions and even rigging. Some artists don't, I do; I'd have to see the nips to guess.
  • Artistic integrity, as in if you're making a human that's going to be wearing different outfits that's a legit part of the anatomy you might want to keep track of even if you're not going to show a lot of bumps in the final product. For consistency. Like that's the default naturalistic option, not having them there while you work is the artificial choice. Snatches are different since they aren't a useful reference point... usually.
So obviously it depends on the workflow/art style but it's more a case of them forgetting to remove em than it being strange that they were ever there.

Edit: ya those could easily be stock
 
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