Culture ‘Hell on earth’: Men share why they avoid singles nights - Men in our community shared candid accounts of why singles nights hold little appeal for them, citing fear of public rejection, dating fatigue and a preference for more organic ways of meeting partners

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Men in our community shared candid accounts of why singles nights hold little appeal for them, citing fear of public rejection, dating fatigue and a preference for more organic ways of meeting partners​

Monday 02 March 2026 09:08 EST
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Dating nights aren't for everyone (iStock)

Olivia Petter’s report on the challenges of getting men to attend singles nights prompted a flood of responses from male readers sharing their own experiences of dating.

Rather than rejecting the premise outright, many used the comments to explain why events like these hold little appeal for them personally.

A recurring theme was discomfort with structured, high-pressure formats such as speed dating, which several described as “forced”, “synthetic” or akin to a job interview.

Men spoke about feeling exposed in environments where rejection plays out publicly, arguing that the expectation to be instantly charming, funny and confident creates an uneven dynamic. Some said they preferred meeting partners organically – through friends, shared hobbies, travel or everyday life – where connection develops more naturally and without an audience.

Others reflected more broadly on modern dating. A number of commenters said they had opted out of formal dating altogether, citing exhaustion with apps, perceived imbalances in effort, or a sense that expectations have become transactional and over-analysed.

Here’s what you had to say:

Men shoulder most of the effort in dating

As a single man who has largely given up on dating, articles like this complaining about men while making out that women are great sum up why.

I’m expected to put the vast majority of effort into dating. I take the risk of rejection in doing the asking out, I arrange the date, usually carry the conversation, frequently am expected to pay, then this process repeats for future dates. The majority of women I met seemed to think turning up was all that’s required for me to ‘woo’ them. In return, I’ve had women ghost, cancel last minute after I’ve paid for tickets, complain about the venue, say things like I should be grateful they turned up at all after they arrived almost an hour late (extreme lateness was very common, often followed by a dismissive comment about how I should put up with it because I’m a man).

Clearly there are issues women experience too, but the big difference from my perspective is effort. Women expect everything to be done for them and, other than their appearance, don’t invest much in the early dating stages. I’ve never once had a woman ‘bound right up’ and ask me out, never had a woman pay, never felt like they were making the effort to keep me entertained, never had them suggest or arrange a date. They frequently complain about men’s failings yet seem to have zero awareness of their own.

I’m in my 40s now, so I’m not that bothered about sex or flings. I have good friends and enough going on that I don't want to waste time on something that just isn't enjoyable. If the other person was making a similar level of effort, then I may feel differently. The level of entitlement is ridiculous though – it frequently felt like dealing with teenagers, unable to show any initiative or reciprocation.

Andy

Men are used to being rejected

Attending an event like this is a higher risk for men. Social vulnerability is something men are culturally punished for showing. Men are used to being rejected; women are often the ones rejecting. Experiencing this again, but with an audience, can't be that tempting.

This type of event also favours verbal fluency, emotional expressiveness, and social confidence – traits that suit how the average woman socialises better than men. You describe this as men suffering from pride or a lack of motivation, completely ignoring that the format itself is flawed.

If you want something more than that, involve some sort of activity. Add some sort of competition with built-in conversation starters. A quiz? Cooking? Cocktail-making competition? Why not a go-kart event? A great night regardless of the social outcome.

My two best dates were a trip to IKEA and one where that girl showed me some great biking paths in the forest. The latter one is now my wife.

Daniel

Many of us are socially awkward

I met the women I ended up marrying on a backpacking trip: she was camping with three other women and I was by myself. No force on earth could have compelled me to enter an event such as the writer describes. Of course, I was (and am) socially awkward – but so are so many of us.

I can't recall how my children met their partners, but we had one recent success. Through my wife's friend, we got to know a man who had been a friend of one of her children. He seemed like a nice guy with no partner. But he was VERY quiet. Our daughters had a female friend who had no partner and who they described as being really nice, so we old folks went into action. Our daughters approached their friend, who sent them a list of questions – "Does he have kids? Has he been married? Does he smoke? Does he have a job?" – which they passed on to us to get the answers. Things worked out. Yay! Matchmaking lives!

soccerdad

Dates are like job interviews

I wonder if the psychology of the modern dating game just appeals more to women than men?

I'm in my early fifties now. In my teens, people were either very much in a relationship or not; the idea of going on a date with someone to see if you wanted a relationship was something alien we saw on American television. By my thirties, I'd largely opted out of the whole thing.

The idea of going on a date which was effectively a job interview seemed a very unappealing way of spending an evening when there was the alternative of doing something I enjoyed. If I met somebody that way, well and good; if not, it didn't matter – I was out having fun, doing things I wanted to do. I met women who were attracted to me and I not them, women to whom I was attracted and they not me, and on it went.

Eventually I met the woman who is now my wife quite by accident, through friends.

I did once, for a magazine article I agreed to write, go to a speed-dating night. It was hell on earth for me – I hated it. I dabbled very briefly with internet dating as well, but never went on a date because I never saw anyone I thought would be a match. It all felt pointless.

PadraigMahone

Let things happen naturally

It was the same decades ago. I once got asked to join a speed-dating night as there weren't enough men. I'd just had a bad accident, so I explained to the organiser that I was in no fit state to go looking for a date; I'd come just for the fun of it.

I had to fill in a form where you had to describe yourself in three words. Assuming I would get no dates whatsoever, I wrote "toothless, not heartless." Then I sat down with each girl and explained I was here just for fun – because, well, look at the state of me.

To my surprise, every single girl put me top of their list – and even the girl organising the event asked me out. The other guys didn't get a look in because they were trying to be "sensitive, caring, and kind" like they had written down –and this went absolutely nowhere.

There's a serious point here – men don't like dating events because they feel forced and synthetic. The format itself runs against the grain of how many men are wired to court. Being lined up for inspection, filling in forms, rotating on a timer – not just uncomfortable, but actively undermines the qualities that tend to make men attractive in the first place: spontaneity, confidence, a bit of mystery. Hard to be mysterious when you're wearing a name badge. It doesn't feel particularly "blokey" to offer yourself out for selection.

Dating events aren't struggling because men are emotionally stunted or commitment-averse – they're failing because the environment selects against natural confidence and rewards a kind of performed sensitivity that most people, including the women attending, can smell from a mile off.

Far better to go, have some fun, and let things happen naturally – even when you're least expecting it!

Sneaker

I’d head to an event over an app

I have to say that for someone who hasn't been dating for 30 years, this goes against what I would have expected – i.e., men outnumbering women 15:1 rather than the other way round.

If I ever found myself dating again, I'd have thought I'd head to an event like this long before I'd join an app, to be honest. But maybe that's just me.

GoodGriefCharlieBrown

Some of the comments have been edited for this article for brevity and clarity.
 
The type of man the women at these events want don't need these type of events. For every other type of man, they quickly learned these events is just a humiliation ritual.
100% (I knew a guy who worked for a company that ran these events...and had a hell of a time finding men to attend. Complained all the damn time that they'd fill up on women and the men who signed up were terrible)

The women who show up to these events are deluding themselves into thinking they can eat their cake and have it too. Gotta put in the work to find someone!
 
You fucked up for life bruh. Nobody on KiwiFarms has ever punted so fucking hard. :lossmanjack:
Not to rag on someone I barely knew, but she kind of seemed like she was on something, I might be charitable and assume cocaine but maybe she was just incredibly bipolar. She had a peculiar look too, very skinny, more gaunt than slender. It wasn't exactly "cute nerd girl gushes about her special interest and gets embarrassed UwU", and it was a VERY stark contrast to her barely texting back at all. Like straight up, I sent something like "hey it's so and so from the thing, you play any good games lately" and she was like "ya lol". "Oh really, more RuneScape or you trying something else out?" "nah lol". Pulling fucking teeth. Shit, it might have even been that she just stopped responding, I don't remember, I don't know that I made a conscious decision that RuneScape is where I draw the line of my dignity, I played fucking League of Legends at the time.
 
I have arguably a bad habit of shit talking and bantering the more comfortable I am with a person and this social autism has 100% proven to be a successful flirting strategy whether I was even interested in the chick or not. Women are a meme. Throw rocks at them.
It's worked for me so far as well. It's weird.

Though when the autism gets to be too much it kinda just unravels.
 
Then again the only people I hear go on about "a full head of hair" is men. I cant recall any of my friends bringing up men's hair.
I bring it up for the simple fact that it's, many times, a fixable thing. Now I'm not going up to a random man like 'ewww you're balding'. But if a male friend happens to complain about his hair, I'll introduce him to the wonders of minoxidil.
I don't feel bad about having a preference for men with good hair because, again, you can often improve it (I would know, I was on my way to having a Foodie Beauty hairline). And I don't mind when a man also has a preference for weight, height, hair color, e.t.c. I don't know why people get their panties in a bunch over preferences to be honest, as long as you're polite about it...

I'm replying to your comment just in case a fellow kiwi with hair loss comes across this. I feel like I won't have the change to talk about it again. Minoxidil, dutasteride, spironolactone (the last one only if you're a woman or a tranny).
 
I'm replying to your comment just in case a fellow kiwi with hair loss comes across this. I feel like I won't have the change to talk about it again. Minoxidil, dutasteride, spironolactone (the last one only if you're a woman or a tranny).
dutasteride is a steroid hormone that can cause all sorts of trouble for you, including erectile dysfunction and gynecomastia.
minoxidil is harmless enough overall, giving it a try likely won't hurt you anywhere except your wallet. but i'd be extremely wary about dutasteride. i'd rather face the norwood reaper head-on than start fucking around with my hormone system like that.
 
dutasteride is a steroid hormone that can cause all sorts of trouble for you, including erectile dysfunction and gynecomastia.
minoxidil is harmless enough overall, giving it a try likely won't hurt you anywhere except your wallet. but i'd be extremely wary about dutasteride. i'd rather face the norwood reaper head-on than start fucking around with my hormone system like that.
On the leaflet it does say that dutasteride has those risks, but it made it sound like they were relatively rare. Idk how it works in the rest of the world but where I live the only medication you can buy willy-nilly is minoxidil, this should all be discussed with a doctor of course!

Still, just minoxidil can work wonders. If one can't handle the minox in pill form (I can't, for example), they can always use the foam version! We no longer have to be bald yaaay!
 
On the leaflet it does say that dutasteride has those risks, but it made it sound like they were relatively rare. Idk how it works in the rest of the world but where I live the only medication you can buy willy-nilly is minoxidil, this should all be discussed with a doctor of course!

Still, just minoxidil can work wonders. If one can't handle the minox in pill form (I can't, for example), they can always use the foam version! We no longer have to be bald yaaay!
getting trustworthy figures is hard because the web is full of bullshit misinformation on topics like this
on one side there's pharma jews and their shills saying "it's no big deal trust me bro it almost never happens"
on the other side there's conspiratards who screech about "i took this drug once and my dick fell off"

wiki has this:
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no idea how accurate or reliable the underlying studies are, but those stated numbers are way too high for me to feel comfortable about
 
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