Culture ‘Hell on earth’: Men share why they avoid singles nights - Men in our community shared candid accounts of why singles nights hold little appeal for them, citing fear of public rejection, dating fatigue and a preference for more organic ways of meeting partners

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Men in our community shared candid accounts of why singles nights hold little appeal for them, citing fear of public rejection, dating fatigue and a preference for more organic ways of meeting partners​

Monday 02 March 2026 09:08 EST
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Dating nights aren't for everyone (iStock)

Olivia Petter’s report on the challenges of getting men to attend singles nights prompted a flood of responses from male readers sharing their own experiences of dating.

Rather than rejecting the premise outright, many used the comments to explain why events like these hold little appeal for them personally.

A recurring theme was discomfort with structured, high-pressure formats such as speed dating, which several described as “forced”, “synthetic” or akin to a job interview.

Men spoke about feeling exposed in environments where rejection plays out publicly, arguing that the expectation to be instantly charming, funny and confident creates an uneven dynamic. Some said they preferred meeting partners organically – through friends, shared hobbies, travel or everyday life – where connection develops more naturally and without an audience.

Others reflected more broadly on modern dating. A number of commenters said they had opted out of formal dating altogether, citing exhaustion with apps, perceived imbalances in effort, or a sense that expectations have become transactional and over-analysed.

Here’s what you had to say:

Men shoulder most of the effort in dating

As a single man who has largely given up on dating, articles like this complaining about men while making out that women are great sum up why.

I’m expected to put the vast majority of effort into dating. I take the risk of rejection in doing the asking out, I arrange the date, usually carry the conversation, frequently am expected to pay, then this process repeats for future dates. The majority of women I met seemed to think turning up was all that’s required for me to ‘woo’ them. In return, I’ve had women ghost, cancel last minute after I’ve paid for tickets, complain about the venue, say things like I should be grateful they turned up at all after they arrived almost an hour late (extreme lateness was very common, often followed by a dismissive comment about how I should put up with it because I’m a man).

Clearly there are issues women experience too, but the big difference from my perspective is effort. Women expect everything to be done for them and, other than their appearance, don’t invest much in the early dating stages. I’ve never once had a woman ‘bound right up’ and ask me out, never had a woman pay, never felt like they were making the effort to keep me entertained, never had them suggest or arrange a date. They frequently complain about men’s failings yet seem to have zero awareness of their own.

I’m in my 40s now, so I’m not that bothered about sex or flings. I have good friends and enough going on that I don't want to waste time on something that just isn't enjoyable. If the other person was making a similar level of effort, then I may feel differently. The level of entitlement is ridiculous though – it frequently felt like dealing with teenagers, unable to show any initiative or reciprocation.

Andy

Men are used to being rejected

Attending an event like this is a higher risk for men. Social vulnerability is something men are culturally punished for showing. Men are used to being rejected; women are often the ones rejecting. Experiencing this again, but with an audience, can't be that tempting.

This type of event also favours verbal fluency, emotional expressiveness, and social confidence – traits that suit how the average woman socialises better than men. You describe this as men suffering from pride or a lack of motivation, completely ignoring that the format itself is flawed.

If you want something more than that, involve some sort of activity. Add some sort of competition with built-in conversation starters. A quiz? Cooking? Cocktail-making competition? Why not a go-kart event? A great night regardless of the social outcome.

My two best dates were a trip to IKEA and one where that girl showed me some great biking paths in the forest. The latter one is now my wife.

Daniel

Many of us are socially awkward

I met the women I ended up marrying on a backpacking trip: she was camping with three other women and I was by myself. No force on earth could have compelled me to enter an event such as the writer describes. Of course, I was (and am) socially awkward – but so are so many of us.

I can't recall how my children met their partners, but we had one recent success. Through my wife's friend, we got to know a man who had been a friend of one of her children. He seemed like a nice guy with no partner. But he was VERY quiet. Our daughters had a female friend who had no partner and who they described as being really nice, so we old folks went into action. Our daughters approached their friend, who sent them a list of questions – "Does he have kids? Has he been married? Does he smoke? Does he have a job?" – which they passed on to us to get the answers. Things worked out. Yay! Matchmaking lives!

soccerdad

Dates are like job interviews

I wonder if the psychology of the modern dating game just appeals more to women than men?

I'm in my early fifties now. In my teens, people were either very much in a relationship or not; the idea of going on a date with someone to see if you wanted a relationship was something alien we saw on American television. By my thirties, I'd largely opted out of the whole thing.

The idea of going on a date which was effectively a job interview seemed a very unappealing way of spending an evening when there was the alternative of doing something I enjoyed. If I met somebody that way, well and good; if not, it didn't matter – I was out having fun, doing things I wanted to do. I met women who were attracted to me and I not them, women to whom I was attracted and they not me, and on it went.

Eventually I met the woman who is now my wife quite by accident, through friends.

I did once, for a magazine article I agreed to write, go to a speed-dating night. It was hell on earth for me – I hated it. I dabbled very briefly with internet dating as well, but never went on a date because I never saw anyone I thought would be a match. It all felt pointless.

PadraigMahone

Let things happen naturally

It was the same decades ago. I once got asked to join a speed-dating night as there weren't enough men. I'd just had a bad accident, so I explained to the organiser that I was in no fit state to go looking for a date; I'd come just for the fun of it.

I had to fill in a form where you had to describe yourself in three words. Assuming I would get no dates whatsoever, I wrote "toothless, not heartless." Then I sat down with each girl and explained I was here just for fun – because, well, look at the state of me.

To my surprise, every single girl put me top of their list – and even the girl organising the event asked me out. The other guys didn't get a look in because they were trying to be "sensitive, caring, and kind" like they had written down –and this went absolutely nowhere.

There's a serious point here – men don't like dating events because they feel forced and synthetic. The format itself runs against the grain of how many men are wired to court. Being lined up for inspection, filling in forms, rotating on a timer – not just uncomfortable, but actively undermines the qualities that tend to make men attractive in the first place: spontaneity, confidence, a bit of mystery. Hard to be mysterious when you're wearing a name badge. It doesn't feel particularly "blokey" to offer yourself out for selection.

Dating events aren't struggling because men are emotionally stunted or commitment-averse – they're failing because the environment selects against natural confidence and rewards a kind of performed sensitivity that most people, including the women attending, can smell from a mile off.

Far better to go, have some fun, and let things happen naturally – even when you're least expecting it!

Sneaker

I’d head to an event over an app

I have to say that for someone who hasn't been dating for 30 years, this goes against what I would have expected – i.e., men outnumbering women 15:1 rather than the other way round.

If I ever found myself dating again, I'd have thought I'd head to an event like this long before I'd join an app, to be honest. But maybe that's just me.

GoodGriefCharlieBrown

Some of the comments have been edited for this article for brevity and clarity.
 
Nobody's out there broadcasting what they'll settle for.
Thank god I didn't tell my husband I'd settle for 5'6" because then he would have started stooping.

I never told anyone I'd settle for balding (is that settling?) but amongst men thats not a particularly desirable trait. Here i am with a guy who just happens to be balding. He has so much going for him in ways that matter to me that hair appearance doesn't even matter. I feel like after youve been with someone for a while you dont really "see" them anymore anyway - youre either attracted to them or not attracted to them. Then again the only people I hear go on about "a full head of hair" is men. I cant recall any of my friends bringing up men's hair.
 
Then again the only people I hear go on about "a full head of hair" is men. I cant recall any of my friends bringing up men's hair.
A friend of mine was sat on the sofa with his girlfriend, and she pushed back his fringe and said "Oh yeah, your hairline is really far back." and he got upset and walked out lmao. Still cracks me up to remember it.
 
Wait What? Men are not attending singles nights? So how are incels not getting pussy? Isn't this just a law of averages at this point, I mean you could be the most cokezero anime pillow retard and get pussy at this point just by attending? Single men wtf?
 
Wait What? Men are not attending singles nights? So how are incels not getting pussy? Isn't this just a law of averages at this point, I mean you could be the most cokezero anime pillow retard and get pussy at this point just by attending? Single men wtf?
Nothing you read or see online is real. I went to a single night two years back and it was a complete sausage fest. Went to another one and it was filled with women. Reality isn't real until you interact with it.
 
I actually went to an event like this many years ago. Similar story to some in this thread, I had a friend who came across the advert and thought it would be fun, I agreed it was worth the price of a movie ticket to see what it's like. We were both relatively well put-together, not too homely, and decently social - I post on the Farms, so you can assume this all already - so I figured at least it wouldn't be miserable.

The ratios were pretty even, although I found out it was super cheap for the girls to show up so not too surprising. Most people were respectably dressed and groomed, some were even attractive, and honestly it wasn't that bad of an experience. It was like 3-5 minutes of chatting per person, I'm not (too) autistic so it wasn't hard to just steer conversation onto a topic after the brief "what's your deal anyway" elevator pitch, and frankly that's enough to get a basic vibe check on someone. Most were kind of normal people, some weren't very good at conversation, overall it didn't seem like it selected for totally broken people or anything. One chick brought a baby with her, who to its credit slept through the whole thing, and she seemed nice enough. One girl, as soon as the topic of video games came up, breathlessly ranted about RuneScape for the entire time. There was one girl who gave me the most visceral feeling of danger and fear I'd felt in my entire life, perhaps to this day even, like the living embodiment of BPD knife-you-in-your-sleep.

Ultimately there were a handful of girls where we each put our phone numbers down for the other, went on a few dates, nothing really panned out from it. Couple dropped off before we met back up, couple were flaky, one or two just didn't really click. I did text RuneScape girl for a bit after that, but it was basically dusted after a day, I think every reply from her ironically was a single word like "haha" or "yep". In hindsight, I bet if I asked her to teach me how to get started in RuneScape I might have at least gotten to second base.
 
Nothing you read or see online is real. I went to a single night two years back and it was a complete sausage fest. Went to another one and it was filled with women. Reality isn't real until you interact with it.
I mean so the second meeting was a success right? A room full of single women, am I missing something here were they lesbians or something? I get it that the first night was a trauma fest but that should be dealt with a 2min glaze of the room and "i'm gone" but the second one was just what the ad promoted for right?
 
I mean so the second meeting was a success right? A room full of single women, am I missing something here where they lesbians or something? I get it that the first night was a trauma fest but that should be dealt with a 2min glaze of the room and "i'm gone" but the second one was just what the ad promoted for right?
Why? Maybe the sausage fest was a room full of cool dudes and they spent the night having an epic Warhams gaming session impromptu with silverware as minis and maybe the women were boring and stuck up and only there because they were paid to promote the singles night as a viable event?
 
I mean so the second meeting was a success right? A room full of single women, am I missing something here where they lesbians or something? I get it that the first night was a trauma fest but that should be dealt with a 2min glaze of the room and "i'm gone" but the second one was just what the ad promoted for right?
No I mean that I've seen articles that call singles nights sausage fest, and then ones like this that say they are clam jams. None of it's real, there's no point engaging with these articles seriously, or treating the information they present as valid, because they are not reflective of anything useful. One night it was a man meat mansion, the other night it was a pink pussy parade. It's better to just ignore them and try to make your way the best you can.
 
Why? Maybe the sausage fest was a room full of cool dudes and they spent the night having an epic Warhams gaming session impromptu with silverware as minis and maybe the women were boring and stuck up and only there because they were paid to promote the singles night as a viable event?
True that sounds like a great night out and getting a few cool friends, but if you are on the hunt for a girlfriend then it sounds mute. While I have to admit that I lmao at first it's not a bad night after all.

Non conservative tip to guys who want to get a girl, before the date go to a prostitute it makes you more relaxed and just maybe you can get a second date. Plus stop watching porn, it makes you more attractive to women (sauce: don't fucking know. It just works).
 
I never told anyone I'd settle for balding (is that settling?) but amongst men thats not a particularly desirable trait. Here i am with a guy who just happens to be balding. He has so much going for him in ways that matter to me that hair appearance doesn't even matter. I feel like after youve been with someone for a while you dont really "see" them anymore anyway - youre either attracted to them or not attracted to them. Then again the only people I hear go on about "a full head of hair" is men. I cant recall any of my friends bringing up men's hair.
Bald is sexy, Jean Luc
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Non conservative tip to guys who want to get a girl, before the date go to a prostitute
☣️☣️☣️ Never do this. Whores are riddled with disease.
Turns out he overcame being short..,by being successful. Huh.
The most successful and bankable star in the world is still only 5'7". What's your excuse, @Qonas , you angry little munchkin?
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Damn, I didn't know any of this. I really like TBYS's videos even though I'm a woman. I don't know if I'm going to be able to watch him again without thinking of this lol.
His sweeping campaign was very successful. Probably the most successful I've seen on YouTube and I'm really pissed off about it. There was a YouTuber who compiled a video about it covering it, including the clips or TBYS crying like a baby on Livestream about all his followers saying mean things about him. I think it was RibbyThePartyFrog, but his whole channel got deleted by YouTube after mass reporting campaign. Venti's legion of simps is very strong.

If I can get that video or those live streams, I will archive them here and at least make a Prospering Grounds thread because there is no fucking way I am fucking letting that disgusting faggot manchild get away with his sweeping. I hate TBYS and most of the other wellness/red pill/MGTOW preachers. They're all minor Lolcows in their own way.
 
Bro if your banging a prostitute before a date with another woman, that is all sorts of fucked up. But if that works for you, then go for it.
Fresh N Fit did that lmao. One of them knocked up an Asian hooker who after getting the run-around by the black man dodging fatherhood, she decided she was better off without him. Wise decision.

Rereading this, no way a white man types this way. That’s a pajeet. I can even hear that fucking accent and everything. 🤔
Gee, the guys name is Curry Teafag. I wonder what race he is and where he is from. Place your bets everyone!!!

Show me one woman anywhere in the last ten years that’s expressed in public or on social media that she prefers short men. While you’re at it bring me a skyhook and a left-handed spanner
....I mean, I personally knew a chick who preferred skinny, white, short men. She was a larger raging feminist with a black belt and a massive inferiority complex. A little chunky, but much of it was muscle. She had a thing for a guy I knew. You know, come to think about it, that guy dated and married a girl much larger than him too. Both in height and width. So....I guess the "Millennial Couple" meme comes from somewhere.

Stands to reason that picky women are going to be the ones left standing with their clearly stated, often absurd preferences.
You know, this is actually a good point I did not immediately consider. The reason they only see women harping on height is because those picky women stay single. I think I will share this lesson moving forward.

Dude absolutely slays pussy, abuses the fuck out of women and then moves onto the next victim.
You become a psychopath like that though, karma will catch you eventually.

I never told anyone I'd settle for balding (is that settling?)
When you go bald as a man (and thank God I haven't), you have two paths. Either become fucking JACKED AF or become hat guy. I know both, but you have to make a choice.

Men also bully TF out of each other for balding too.

One girl, as soon as the topic of video games came up, breathlessly ranted about RuneScape for the entire time.
AND YOU DIDN'T PROPOSE ON THE SPOT?! BRO. BRO. WTF.

I bet if I asked her to teach me how to get started in RuneScape I might have at least gotten to second base.
You fucked up for life bruh. Nobody on KiwiFarms has ever punted so fucking hard. :lossmanjack:
 
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