Culture ‘Hell on earth’: Men share why they avoid singles nights - Men in our community shared candid accounts of why singles nights hold little appeal for them, citing fear of public rejection, dating fatigue and a preference for more organic ways of meeting partners

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Men in our community shared candid accounts of why singles nights hold little appeal for them, citing fear of public rejection, dating fatigue and a preference for more organic ways of meeting partners​

Monday 02 March 2026 09:08 EST
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Olivia Petter’s report on the challenges of getting men to attend singles nights prompted a flood of responses from male readers sharing their own experiences of dating.

Rather than rejecting the premise outright, many used the comments to explain why events like these hold little appeal for them personally.

A recurring theme was discomfort with structured, high-pressure formats such as speed dating, which several described as “forced”, “synthetic” or akin to a job interview.

Men spoke about feeling exposed in environments where rejection plays out publicly, arguing that the expectation to be instantly charming, funny and confident creates an uneven dynamic. Some said they preferred meeting partners organically – through friends, shared hobbies, travel or everyday life – where connection develops more naturally and without an audience.

Others reflected more broadly on modern dating. A number of commenters said they had opted out of formal dating altogether, citing exhaustion with apps, perceived imbalances in effort, or a sense that expectations have become transactional and over-analysed.

Here’s what you had to say:

Men shoulder most of the effort in dating

As a single man who has largely given up on dating, articles like this complaining about men while making out that women are great sum up why.

I’m expected to put the vast majority of effort into dating. I take the risk of rejection in doing the asking out, I arrange the date, usually carry the conversation, frequently am expected to pay, then this process repeats for future dates. The majority of women I met seemed to think turning up was all that’s required for me to ‘woo’ them. In return, I’ve had women ghost, cancel last minute after I’ve paid for tickets, complain about the venue, say things like I should be grateful they turned up at all after they arrived almost an hour late (extreme lateness was very common, often followed by a dismissive comment about how I should put up with it because I’m a man).

Clearly there are issues women experience too, but the big difference from my perspective is effort. Women expect everything to be done for them and, other than their appearance, don’t invest much in the early dating stages. I’ve never once had a woman ‘bound right up’ and ask me out, never had a woman pay, never felt like they were making the effort to keep me entertained, never had them suggest or arrange a date. They frequently complain about men’s failings yet seem to have zero awareness of their own.

I’m in my 40s now, so I’m not that bothered about sex or flings. I have good friends and enough going on that I don't want to waste time on something that just isn't enjoyable. If the other person was making a similar level of effort, then I may feel differently. The level of entitlement is ridiculous though – it frequently felt like dealing with teenagers, unable to show any initiative or reciprocation.

Andy

Men are used to being rejected

Attending an event like this is a higher risk for men. Social vulnerability is something men are culturally punished for showing. Men are used to being rejected; women are often the ones rejecting. Experiencing this again, but with an audience, can't be that tempting.

This type of event also favours verbal fluency, emotional expressiveness, and social confidence – traits that suit how the average woman socialises better than men. You describe this as men suffering from pride or a lack of motivation, completely ignoring that the format itself is flawed.

If you want something more than that, involve some sort of activity. Add some sort of competition with built-in conversation starters. A quiz? Cooking? Cocktail-making competition? Why not a go-kart event? A great night regardless of the social outcome.

My two best dates were a trip to IKEA and one where that girl showed me some great biking paths in the forest. The latter one is now my wife.

Daniel

Many of us are socially awkward

I met the women I ended up marrying on a backpacking trip: she was camping with three other women and I was by myself. No force on earth could have compelled me to enter an event such as the writer describes. Of course, I was (and am) socially awkward – but so are so many of us.

I can't recall how my children met their partners, but we had one recent success. Through my wife's friend, we got to know a man who had been a friend of one of her children. He seemed like a nice guy with no partner. But he was VERY quiet. Our daughters had a female friend who had no partner and who they described as being really nice, so we old folks went into action. Our daughters approached their friend, who sent them a list of questions – "Does he have kids? Has he been married? Does he smoke? Does he have a job?" – which they passed on to us to get the answers. Things worked out. Yay! Matchmaking lives!

soccerdad

Dates are like job interviews

I wonder if the psychology of the modern dating game just appeals more to women than men?

I'm in my early fifties now. In my teens, people were either very much in a relationship or not; the idea of going on a date with someone to see if you wanted a relationship was something alien we saw on American television. By my thirties, I'd largely opted out of the whole thing.

The idea of going on a date which was effectively a job interview seemed a very unappealing way of spending an evening when there was the alternative of doing something I enjoyed. If I met somebody that way, well and good; if not, it didn't matter – I was out having fun, doing things I wanted to do. I met women who were attracted to me and I not them, women to whom I was attracted and they not me, and on it went.

Eventually I met the woman who is now my wife quite by accident, through friends.

I did once, for a magazine article I agreed to write, go to a speed-dating night. It was hell on earth for me – I hated it. I dabbled very briefly with internet dating as well, but never went on a date because I never saw anyone I thought would be a match. It all felt pointless.

PadraigMahone

Let things happen naturally

It was the same decades ago. I once got asked to join a speed-dating night as there weren't enough men. I'd just had a bad accident, so I explained to the organiser that I was in no fit state to go looking for a date; I'd come just for the fun of it.

I had to fill in a form where you had to describe yourself in three words. Assuming I would get no dates whatsoever, I wrote "toothless, not heartless." Then I sat down with each girl and explained I was here just for fun – because, well, look at the state of me.

To my surprise, every single girl put me top of their list – and even the girl organising the event asked me out. The other guys didn't get a look in because they were trying to be "sensitive, caring, and kind" like they had written down –and this went absolutely nowhere.

There's a serious point here – men don't like dating events because they feel forced and synthetic. The format itself runs against the grain of how many men are wired to court. Being lined up for inspection, filling in forms, rotating on a timer – not just uncomfortable, but actively undermines the qualities that tend to make men attractive in the first place: spontaneity, confidence, a bit of mystery. Hard to be mysterious when you're wearing a name badge. It doesn't feel particularly "blokey" to offer yourself out for selection.

Dating events aren't struggling because men are emotionally stunted or commitment-averse – they're failing because the environment selects against natural confidence and rewards a kind of performed sensitivity that most people, including the women attending, can smell from a mile off.

Far better to go, have some fun, and let things happen naturally – even when you're least expecting it!

Sneaker

I’d head to an event over an app

I have to say that for someone who hasn't been dating for 30 years, this goes against what I would have expected – i.e., men outnumbering women 15:1 rather than the other way round.

If I ever found myself dating again, I'd have thought I'd head to an event like this long before I'd join an app, to be honest. But maybe that's just me.

GoodGriefCharlieBrown

Some of the comments have been edited for this article for brevity and clarity.
 
Well maybe if men would just Step Up™...

NGL, as a man, I do kinda blame men for not being able to filter out all the bullshit noise and just do what feels natural in terms of courtship. If you’re listening to dating advice podcasts and reading feminist dating articles as an adult to try and get a leg up, it’s already Joever for you. (I don’t blame youngin’s for trying anything to get dates but when you reach a certain age you should realize that confidence, intelligence and not looking like Rocky Dennis are really the only three things you need to get a gal!)
 
NGL, as a man, I do kinda blame men for not being able to filter out all the bullshit noise and just do what feels natural in terms of courtship. If you’re listening to dating advice podcasts and reading feminist dating articles as an adult to try and get a leg up, it’s already Joever for you. (I don’t blame youngin’s for trying anything to get dates but when you reach a certain age you should realize that confidence, intelligence and not looking like Rocky Dennis are really the only three things you need to get a gal!)
You forgot the part where you look them in the eye and give them a firm handshake.
 
You forgot the part where you look them in the eye and give them a firm handshake.

"just be smart, good looking and confident" really is top tier boomer advice lol

>smart
iq is innate, you're either born with it or you aren't.
there's ways to make a smart person dumber (fry the brain with drugs for example) but there's no way to make a dumb person smarter

>good looking
80% genetics, 20% taking care of yourself and not being fat
if you're willing to go deep into looksmaxxing you might be able to change some of this but by and large you're stuck with what you're born with and no way to change it

>confident
confidence reflects your experience.
if you've had social success and experienced positive feedback throughout your life, you develop lots of confidence.
if you've faced rejection and experienced social defeat throughout your life, you develop negative confidence.
this isn't something you can just decide to change about yourself, there's way too much unconscious shit going into it. posture, facial expressions, choice of words, tone of voice, body language, how you carry yourself - if you don't have it going on naturally then you're not gonna 'fake it till you make it' your way into it either.
 
I've never been to any of these events in my life, but that's probably because I never really cared.
 
If you thought dating apps are meat markets, speed dating is that process in fast forward. Preemptive rejection, twisted facsimile of social interaction, and truncation of hope. All inside five minutes.

Ding!

Next loser please!
 
none of my relationships started from hitting up strangers like that, instead they all came from meeting and getting to know a girl naturally during everyday life, and things just naturally developed from there
It might just be the leftist hellscape where I live, but you have opportunities to talk to girls in everyday life?

I honestly cannot imagine a lifestyle in America where this would be the case if someone wasn't working in grocery store or something public-facing like that.

I rarely even see women, let alone women who want to talk to men.
 
Going to a really low-end used car lot sucks twice: first when you realize there's nothing good left, and second when you remember you're there because that's your price point.
 
Feminism has drastically lowered most women's value while also raising the bar for men to comedy levels. Unsurprising that many who don't get lucky and partner up young end up checked out altogether. Juice not worth squeeze
 
I also wouldn't want to meet someone on these speed dating things. Hell, even dating apps. Just feels too weird, and I feel it's a certain type of people that frequent these places (I'm generalizing don't take it to heart) . But it's very difficult to find someone organically nowadays too. Ugh, dating sucks.
 
"just be smart, good looking and confident" really is top tier boomer advice lol

>smart
iq is innate, you're either born with it or you aren't.
there's ways to make a smart person dumber (fry the brain with drugs for example) but there's no way to make a dumb person smarter

>good looking
80% genetics, 20% taking care of yourself and not being fat
if you're willing to go deep into looksmaxxing you might be able to change some of this but by and large you're stuck with what you're born with and no way to change it

>confident
confidence reflects your experience.
if you've had social success and experienced positive feedback throughout your life, you develop lots of confidence.
if you've faced rejection and experienced social defeat throughout your life, you develop negative confidence.
this isn't something you can just decide to change about yourself, there's way too much unconscious shit going into it. posture, facial expressions, choice of words, tone of voice, body language, how you carry yourself - if you don't have it going on naturally then you're not gonna 'fake it till you make it' your way into it either.
Tbh you sound brown and short.
 
I wouldn't want to go to a speed dating event, especially nowadays since there's a likelihood the organisers would count troons as real women.
 
If you thought dating apps are meat markets, speed dating is that process in fast forward. Preemptive rejection, twisted facsimile of social interaction, and truncation of hope. All inside five minutes.

Ding!

Next loser please!
The House episode where Wilson, House and Chase go speed-dating is a BLVKPVLL. Chase has to pretend he's an unemployed loser retard instead of a doctor but is still swimming in puss.

 
What kind of drama king calls this hell on earth? I mean if it was a room full of Indian men, and you’re a woman, yes it would be.

That’s the only fear you should have for singles nights, is that it’s just all dudes and you wasted the gas to get there
Going there would probably be like Tinder except you have to smell and hear them, which probably wouldnt be to far from hell on earth.
 
Dating in the 2000s/2010s:
Women wanted to have fun. Women understood they had to earn things and give back. They wanted partnerships. Families or relationships and futures were discussed.

Dating in the 2020s:
Women want everything for nothing while being shitty and boring. They're small of mind and soul and want here-now comfort and treat you as a dispenser not a person. Family or a mutual relationship escapes them, unless they have a "family fantasy" and it's your job to give this while they do nothing but get attention. Futures beyond "what I want and have a concept of right now" are beyond them.

Costs that don't have benefits aren't paid.
 
It was the same decades ago. I once got asked to join a speed-dating night as there weren't enough men. I'd just had a bad accident, so I explained to the organiser that I was in no fit state to go looking for a date; I'd come just for the fun of it.

I had to fill in a form where you had to describe yourself in three words. Assuming I would get no dates whatsoever, I wrote "toothless, not heartless." Then I sat down with each girl and explained I was here just for fun – because, well, look at the state of me.

To my surprise, every single girl put me top of their list – and even the girl organising the event asked me out. The other guys didn't get a look in because they were trying to be "sensitive, caring, and kind" like they had written down –and this went absolutely nowhere.
Yeah this did not happen at all
 
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