He Man Reboot Announced

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absolutely destroyed
 
Cubanodun said:
I mean compared it to Sailor Moon, man i forgot how old Cutey Honey is

thanks to my weeb super amazing plugin for vchubas i can see the shitshow that was the chat and did not know Will Wilkins was a mod.. and a cuck

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The chat was terribly tame and Will just needed a excuse to turn off the chat so one guy just writed lol incels and he used that to shut down the chat
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this is the guy moderating the chat
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because of course someone like him is
 
"Just a reminder:
The guy who dresses like a 10 year old, cries at Star Wars movies and writes cartoons about action figures wants YOU to grow up."

The comments on the podcast are absolutely savage. LMFAO.
 
TheAmbiguousLurker said:
But no, Adam has to be the one to apologize to her, to comfort her, to make excuses after sacrificing himself, while she, after abandoning the world and still being reluctant to do anything when told that the universe is on the line, doesn't have to do jack but blame other people for her problems and anything she's actually regretful of is simply more fire for the pity party.
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You don't understand.
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He-Man was an unfeeling male in the way he sacrificed himself to save the Universe. In doing so, he left Teela to carry on without him. She is the true victim here.

The Demon Baby said:
Why is it that 80s movies knew how to develop strong female characters who weren't complete cunts (ie Ellen Ripley, Sarah Connor, etc), but studios don't know how to do it today? It's almost like it's "lost knowledge" these days.
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The essence of it is that in the 80s a badass woman was badass because she overcame struggles and was a hero. The messaging of modern media is that she is a victim and overcomes low expectations. I can't think of a single instance of Ripley being shit on because she's a woman. The closest I can possibly come is Hicks and Apone asking if she could do anything and that itself would be some pretty hard-core misconstruing of the situation. After all, I don't think either of them thought Vasquez wasn't badass. Sarah Connor, Ellen Ripley... they overcame big, real challenges. They were never portrayed as victims based on their sex. Modern media is nothing but celebration of victim status.

The reason is pretty simple. Victim status puts the locus of control / agency outside of oneself. It's a rare person that doesn't embrace an excuse that their situation is somebody else's fault. That's true of all of us, most of us do that all the time - this is just deliberate exploitation of that trait and done on a societal scale. If the source of your problems is men / White people / society / whatever - then you focus your ire and resentment on them. Which is a lot better for the super-wealthy than focusing it on them.

Short version: 80's action women the message was: you are tough and capable. 2020's messaging: you are a victim and have been cheated out of what you're entitled to.

Jaimas said:
It's not that they don't know how to do it, it's that if they do it the right way, it completely fucks the narrative, and as we've established with these assjacks, narrative is more important than anything to them.
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Exactly. And that narrative is "you are a victim". Tell Sarah Connor that she'll tell you she's nobody's victim. Tell Ellen Ripley that she'll say: "I mean, aren't we all to some extent?" Tell Tank Girl that she'll say: "I gots me a tank and a kangaroo and 49cents. I'm on top of the world." Tell Leeloo that and she'll say: "Me Supreme Being. Me protect you." (also "Multipass").

Tell Teela she's a... "Hey, stop mansplaining to me, you bigot. I've got a bi-cut hairstyle".
 
What baffles me is not that they fucked this up. We all knew them fucking up was a foregone conclusion.

It's the degree of the fuck-up that just makes me start smelling burnt toast.
 
Overly Serious said:
I can't think of a single instance of Ripley being shit on because she's a woman. The closest I can possibly come is Hicks and Apone asking if she could do anything and that itself would be some pretty hard-core misconstruing of the situation.
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They were both fucking with her the exact same way they'd fuck with any guy on their ship who wasn't a marine.
"I'm feeling kind of useless, is there anything I can do?"
"I don't know is there anything you CAN do?"
"I can drive that loader."
Then she immediately walks over to the thing and operates it like a fucking pro. Both Hicks and Apone were impressed as fuck, and Ripley instantly EARNED their respect.

I think that's the biggest problem with the way female characters are written these days. They DEMAND respect and refuse to do anything to EARN it. Life doesn't work that way, and it looks stupid in movies.

"Respect me because I say so or I will REEEEEEEEE until you do!" That's literally every stronk independent wammins character written in the past ten years.
 
Godzilla@1989 said:
Wow Kevin Smith, that shitty 1987 adaptation with Courtney Cox (fun fact: the sorceress in that movie was Courtney Cox’s mom on Friends) is now Lawrence of Arabia thanks to you.

Man, I would love to see a revival of the 2002 remake instead of this shitshow. That shouldn’t have ended too soon.
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I'd love to see a revival of new Adventures of He-Man.

It's story and continuity is much stronger than the OG MOTU, even though it felt closer to Star Wars sometimes.

Heckler1 said:
Also they turned Beatman into a pussified simp. It was sad
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Well how else would he get Beastman AIDS?

Only a simp would routinely get his ass drunk like wine.
 
Morethanabitfoolish said:
The Skeletor motive may be the most pathetic thing in the whole run. Making him a literal incel is the sort of thing that the writing room were no doubt slapping their thighs over but you can tell it hit the editors and they looked back in horror. There was no lingering on that stupidity but the line made it in and there's no taking it back.
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I don't want to know, but I must know. Please explain...

The Demon Baby said:
They were both fucking with her the exact same way they'd fuck with any guy on their ship who wasn't a marine.
"I'm feeling kind of useless, is there anything I can do?"
"I don't know is there anything you CAN do?"
"I can drive that loader."
Then she immediately walks over to the thing and operates it like a fucking pro. Both Hicks and Apone were impressed as fuck, and Ripley instantly EARNED their respect.

I think that's the biggest problem with the way female characters are written these days. They DEMAND respect and refuse to do anything to EARN it. Life doesn't work that way, and it looks stupid in movies.

"Respect me because I say so or I will REEEEEEEEE until you do!" That's literally every stronk independent wammins character written in the past ten years.
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Yes, good insight - that's another aspect of it I hadn't considered. But I think it's important to highlight, like you have, that they're not challenging her to prove herself because she is a woman but because that's expected of anyone. At the risk of getting into stereotypes (which I usually like to avoid for the same reasons I criticise all the woke crap), a guy culture is one where there's banter and jostling and a general attitude of "prove yourself". And for good reason - you don't want someone letting you down when you're trying to hunt a mammoth. 80's action women fit into that culture just fine. Modern messaging is all about confronting and bringing down that culture. It's no longer: a woman can prove herself and if she does she should be accepted (as Hicks and Apone immediately do). It's now: A woman shouldn't have to prove herself. Which is a direct negation of guy culture and a demand it be replaced with women-culture: which is we are all about consensus and establishing status through consensus.

I hate using those stereotypes because there's plenty on both sides that don't fit and nothing's all or nothing. But these generalities are a real thing and the messaging is a direct attack on a normal element of male bonding. That's a key reason why 80's action heroines were welcomed by men and 2020's ones are not. It's flipped from feminism being "let me in the clubhouse" (fair) to "I tell you how the clubhouse works" (not welcome).

Marissa Moira said:
I'd love to see a revival of new Adventures of He-Man.

It's story and continuity is much stronger than the OG MOTU, even though it felt closer to Star Wars sometimes.
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I didn't grow up with original He-Man. I grew up with that remake. I thought it was very good, I liked the animation and the story-telling and the setting. It was a great interpretation of Skeletor and all the supporting characters got a much better level of exploration and individuality.
 
Rakdos92 said:
What happened then?
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The book ended. It was literally the last line of the book. LOL.

Overly Serious said:
you don't want someone letting you down when you're trying to hunt a mammoth. 80's action women fit into that culture just fine.
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Exactly. In real life, amongst any group of people, you either bring something of value to the table or GTFO. Movies are not real life, but in order to be believable they have to mirror at least some aspects of how real people interact with each other.
 
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